Football Manager 2021 - Out November 24th

[GOODNAME]

Look like they are listen to us, sounds amazing

Lets hope we will get good ME

[Johnny Ace]

9 minutes ago, GOODNAME said:

Look like they are listen to us, sounds amazing

Lets hope we will get good ME

I hope so too, I remember what was said & shown last year but I'm hopeful. Can't wait to see it in action 

[kingking]

Thank you FM team

GKs are now getting the justice they deserve. For years have GKs been the bottom of the barrel, the forgotten man in FM. GK match rating improvement are a big plus. 

i just hope SWEEPER KEEPERS are better in their positioning ( they need to support the CB more) , risk taking ( they need to rush towards opponents sometimes).

For once I want a David De Gea or a Nuer on my FM.

 

 

Edited November 2, 2020 by kingking

[Johnny Ace]

1 minute ago, kingking said:

i just hope SWEEPER KEEPERS are better in their positioning ( they need to support the CB more) , risk taking ( they need to rush towards opponents sometimes)

 

They're ultra aggressive in FM15, they must've gotten toned down in later versions so it would be good too see them back to their former glory  

[Weller1980]

I'm not embarrassed to say I have been a big whiner of the last couple of match engines. Big elements of the ME have been missing and simply not good enough. The ME blog addresses all of my concerns, every single one which is amazing, even gk ratings. I just hope SI haven't hyped it too much, because I'd hate to be disappointed and dissatisfied again. In fairness SI have listened to the feedback from the last two years and it looks like this ME could be special. 

Edited November 3, 2020 by Weller1980

[Kingstontom88]

Now we're talking

Very positive blog - should have been part of the headline features. As mentioned elsewhere, keepers should be able to foul but at least we'll see them coming off their line now.

Be interested to see the match footage now - variations in attack and unpredictability are much welcome additions.

[BuryBlade]

The blog makes it sound very promising. However I’ll wait to see how it looks in the upcoming videos before getting too excited, simply because the last few ME’s have been poor.

[diLLa88]

Sounds good on paper, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[treble_yell_:-)]

The latest blog is hugely positive. The changes if pulled off have the potential to be huge for the game.

 

[themadsheep2001]

Removed a few posts, play nice people. 

[Dagenham_Dave]

Encouraging reading regarding the match engine, I thought FM20's engine was fine, barring a few noticeable annoyances (most of which were fixed early), so if it's an improvement on that, I'll be happy. 

 

[Boydy9]

I didn't think I'd be back this year after my disappointment last year but just read about the match engine and it has me very curious 

[StevehFC]

6 hours ago, Neil Brock said:

https://www.footballmanager.com/news/match-engine-ai-fm21 - Match Engine Blog

Fair play. That may just be me purchasing it on release for that blog alone. 

[toffee71]

All sounds very promising so far.

[He can't believe he's missed it]

The more I think about this the more excited I am to see it.

More technically minded people might be able to correct me on this but as a layman the whole prospect of the players being able to make decisions and react/change their mind sounds like a pretty big deal, and it should result in more varied and hopefully realistic gameplay.

If it is also as big a change as it sounds then it would explain why there wasn't any major update given to the ME in FM20 around February/March because the current setup had likely reached the end of the line and efforts were going into this.

I get all the people on a downer who fear there will be a load of bugs and glitches, but a lot of us wanted a big change and improvements so I would rather see the start of a big change rather than incremental and reduced improvements to the current ME which had likely reached it's peak.

Or of course it might just be the same as last year, but I'm excited to see it now!

[HUNT3R]

11 minutes ago, He can't believe he's missed it said:

More technically minded people might be able to correct me on this but as a layman the whole prospect of the players being able to make decisions and react/change their mind sounds like a pretty big deal, and it should result in more varied and hopefully realistic gameplay.

This is what I'm expecting as well, especially combined with the new animation blending overhaul.

[Zemahh]

1 hour ago, He can't believe he's missed it said:

More technically minded people might be able to correct me on this but as a layman the whole prospect of the players being able to make decisions and react/change their mind sounds like a pretty big deal, and it should result in more varied and hopefully realistic gameplay.

Best to remain cautiously optimistic until we see the whole thing in action. Hoping they do a Twitch stream soon, that's where we usually get a first real glimpse into the match engine (real gameplay, not prerecorded trailers).

This is how FM20 match engine was hyped up:

5 hours ago, Tiger666 said:

Yeah this was about FM20:

One of the most noticeable changes that you’ll see during matches in FM20 is attacking movement. Players will now make more intelligent and realistic off-the-ball runs during attacking phases and these are contextualised to their position and selected player roles. Decision-making in the final third has improved as a result of the changes to attacking movement as well. The changes to attacking movement are influenced by your own instructions as well as the opposition’s. The defensive positioning mechanics have been overhauled as well. The entirety of the marking code has been rewritten. Defenders are able to make more intelligent decisions now in order to track the more advanced attacking runs players are capable of making.

Pretty much the same lines, improved decision making, attacking movement and defensive positioning, yet it ended up in one of the most boring match engines FM had in a long time. 

[themadsheep2001]

1 hour ago, HUNT3R said:

This is what I'm expecting as well, especially combined with the new animation blending overhaul.

I'm hoping it puts a bigger strain on the decision making attribute, making intelligent players really worth their weight in gold

[RandomGuy.]

This is going to sound like I'm moaning when I'm not, just a genuine question.

Will there be any updates in terms of AI managers, in terms of squad building etc.,?

FM20 was great, but always felt to me like if you survived through 2 seasons without getting sacked then you were inevitably going to come out on top. Once you've sussed out a decent tactic then you're almost unstoppable as you can build a better squad than anyone else pretty easily while the AI never seems to succeed at that unless they've have vastly more money than anyone else.

[timmy]

The blog sounds so promising, hopefully it solves the problems of the players missing 1 on1s, players dribbling all the the way to the opposition goal ending with a weak shot and not passing .

[CalumF]

Blog was a good read. Looking forward to see the match engine now. 

Quick question. Any news on this years licencing? Any changes? 

[CARRERA]

Really looking forward for this years edition, especially the new interactions and ME look very promising

[mikcheck]

6 horas atrás, themadsheep2001 disse:

I'm hoping it puts a bigger strain on the decision making attribute, making intelligent players really worth their weight in gold

Do you think that the difference between a good and a not so good player is barely noticeable in the ME or the difference is there but should be more noticeable?

Edited November 3, 2020 by mikcheck

[Weller1980]

This one sentence from the blog is making me very happy... Fingers crossed for a decent ME 

"The improvements to the AI in FM21’s match engine will be immediately noticeable from the moment you enter your first match" 

[DementedHammer]

I'm still trying to keep my feet on the ground until I see it for myself with my own tactics, as that announcement will inevitably have been through a marketing / PR person who'll have added their own sugar to it - that's just how this sort of announcement works in my experience, and no disrespect is intended towards SI. 

That said, even if there are lots of small improvements in the areas mentioned, it could lead to a much better match engine experience overall, even if each improvement isn't quite as glorious as first imagined. 

There is a lot to be positive about. I just hope people don't expect too much and then react negatively to small but definite improvements. 

Edited November 3, 2020 by DementedHammer

[Johnny Ace]

I still have the cross field fullback to fullback crosses imprinted on my brain from the FM20 beta but my fingers are crossed for 21  

[Tiger666]

1 hour ago, Weller1980 said:

This one sentence from the blog is making me very happy... Fingers crossed for a decent ME 

"The improvements to the AI in FM21’s match engine will be immediately noticeable from the moment you enter your first match" 

Don't be sucked in by marketing, they said similar things for the FM20 reveal.

One of the most noticeable changes that you’ll see during matches in FM20 is attacking movement. Players will now make more intelligent and realistic off-the-ball runs during attacking phases and these are contextualised to their position and selected player roles.
 

[PotKettleBlack]

On 02/11/2020 at 20:14, Johnny Ace said:

I hope so too, I remember what was said & shown last year but I'm hopeful. Can't wait to see it in action 

It's always the hope that kills you

[Dagenham_Dave]

1 hour ago, DementedHammer said:

I just hope people don't expect too much and then react negatively to small but definite improvements. 

Hi, you must be new here. 

[grade]

1 hour ago, PotKettleBlack said:

It's always the hope that kills you

At least if SI doesn't deliver (in your opinion) you could shift your hope to the next version of FM.

[DementedHammer]

1 hour ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

Hi, you must be new here. 

Haha, I sometimes wish I was!

[99]

I was happy to read about the recent ME update post. Ofcourse, that doesn't mean I'll just blindly pre-order again, this time caution tells me to try the demo first and then, if happy (as I wish to be), I'll proceed to the full game.

I couldn't however hide my smile when I've seen SI post talking about the "beautiful game" and the "slices". Two months ago I would be 100% unsuspicious about it, but that's exactly the kind of vocabulary being spread by the alternate engines authors. Now, this could be a good thing, if above the marketing words we have the work to justify it, but after such great attemps to silence the people who did it, making a post using the same words, it's just... funny to read.

I wish more than ever for it to be more than words. And if it is, you have here another buyer, of another edition.

[Jean0987654321]

come on beta...

 

I hope its coming soon. My Crewe save fizzled out :D

[PotKettleBlack]

6 hours ago, grade said:

At least if SI doesn't deliver (in your opinion) you could shift your hope to the next version of FM.

True that, at least with FM22 they'll be a lot more changes than this FM.

[PotKettleBlack]

3 hours ago, Arthur72 said:

so your not playing fm21 when it comes out then

Still waiting for more news, probably do what @99said, try the demo, if I like what I see from that then buy it. If not wait for FM22.

[Simsimmabrfc85]

I play FM all year round and have been for decades but when it gets close to the new game beta dropping i cant bring myself to play FM feels like a waste of time and effort knowing the new one is close to dropping, actually uninstalled FM20 the weekend. Hoping it drops this week but have a feeling it'll be next week hope i am wrong as i have got 2 days off work today and tomorrow... 🙏

[SazoJohnno]

@Neil BrockSorry to tag you here, not sure if this is a right thread or even in right section of forum but I assume FMFC incentives such as

• Member-only opportunities and incentives   
• Getting content on the games you play, for the platforms you play on 

don't mean the beta's locked behind FMFC? 

[Neil Brock]

8 minutes ago, SazoJohnno said:

@Neil BrockSorry to tag you here, not sure if this is a right thread or even in right section of forum but I assume FMFC incentives such as

• Member-only opportunities and incentives   
• Getting content on the games you play, for the platforms you play on 

don't mean the beta's locked behind FMFC? 

The Early Access beta for FM21 will be available to everyone who has pre-ordered from the participating retailers. 

[SazoJohnno]

16 minutes ago, Neil Brock said:

The Early Access beta for FM21 will be available to everyone who has pre-ordered from the participating retailers. 

Great thank you. Will sign up for the FMFC soon. Just had to be sure that FMFC wasnt the new thing the beta would hide behind. Looking forward what FMFC bring!

[-Jef-]

FMFC made me wet.

Edited November 4, 2020 by rosque

[Dagenham_Dave]

Loving the new changes to player condition, fatigue, ratings etc. I hope its worked in such a way that constant gegenpressing for 90 mins will have a massive effect on your players fitness levels and injury susceptibility. One of the reasons the gegenpress has been so overpowered in recent editions is you could easily tell your players to intensely press for the whole match with little to no impact on fitness, which is hardly realistic. 

On the flip side, thousands of 'too many injuries' posts incoming...  

[kiingallen]

On 03/11/2020 at 12:17, Zemahh said:

Best to remain cautiously optimistic until we see the whole thing in action. Hoping they do a Twitch stream soon, that's where we usually get a first real glimpse into the match engine (real gameplay, not prerecorded trailers).

This is how FM20 match engine was hyped up:

Pretty much the same lines, improved decision making, attacking movement and defensive positioning, yet it ended up in one of the most boring match engines FM had in a long time. 

Oh dear. There’s all my excitement gone. Knew I was right to put my walls up. Goodness me

[theeyeofthetiger]

Given the decline of the last 3 versions I'll be giving the pre order a miss this year until I'm happy with what I see on the demo

[Buffalo12]

Will there be a beta version of FM Touch?

[sgevolker]

Are the new statistic features like expected goals also in FM Touch implemented? And the season overview, Player performance etc.? 

[Mr U Rosler]

Has a Stadia release been confirmed yet?

My laptop grinds to a halt after a few seasons, was going to give Stadia a go this year, heard its the fastest way to play the game. 

[2feet]

Solskjaer will probably be sacked soon after FM21 is released, probably to be replaced by Poch, so I’m interested to know whether the company builds this likelihood into the game?

If I start a new game can I expect him to be sacked sometime around November? Or will the season start with him already sacked?

[jimbo22]

6 minutes ago, 2feet said:

Solskjaer will probably be sacked soon after FM21 is released, probably to be replaced by Poch, so I’m interested to know whether the company builds this likelihood into the game?

If I start a new game can I expect him to be sacked sometime around November? Or will the season start with him already sacked?

If he's sacked before data lock then the job will be open or the new man will be in place from the start of the game. If its after data lock then it will need to be updated by a update/patch and he will start the game as Man Utd manager. If my memory is correct something similar happened a couple of years ago with a big club and they released a update pretty quickly for it. 

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