BBC or ITV for the Final?

[craigcwwe]

So per the thread title, which channel shall you be watching on and why?

For me it's the Beeb, no adverts and no bloody Sam Matterface. 

 

[EnterUsernameHere]

BBC but just because it's the lesser of two evils in terms of commentator pairing.

[deltablue]

Always BBC.

[Pukey]

Mowbray is a million times better than Matterface so BBC. Both have terrible co-commentators though. 

[thefmveteran86]

BBC, I can't stand Pougatch

[Tikka Mezzala]

I'll be following the running commentary in the match thread. Gunman co-commentator. 

[HOORAY HENRIK]

Rai Uno.

[SouthCoastRed]

30 minutes ago, Pukey said:

Mowbray is a million times better than Matterface so BBC. Both have terrible co-commentators though. 

This, 100% this. And Lineker wipes the floor with Pougatch

[SouthCoastRed]

28 minutes ago, Tikka Mezzala said:

I'll be following the running commentary in the match thread. Gunman co-commentator. 

Good god, drink lots first

[AM99]

Much prefer the BBC's coverage.

[CFuller]

Lineker > Pougatch

Mowbray >> Matterface

BBC >>> ITV

[TM]

there is no chance anybody is watching ITV even if they are scheduling The Italian Job before the game which does show creativity but then you remember it's Matterface, Dixon and Pougatch

[Bigwig]

BBC is always a no-contest in these cases. Just can’t see any justification for picking ITV over BBC for pretty much any identical content, not just football. 

[RTHerringbone]

Will be good to see the viewing figures afterwards. Cannot see why anyone would choose ITV over BBC. Pougatch and Matterface are an absolute raging shambles.

[Rob1981]

Obviously BBC.

They will all be fully suited up as well with their ties done up to eleven. Even though they are open necked shirts for the whole rest of the tournament. Every time.

[Lucas]

No poll, so I've added one.

[Smallen]

What sort of psychopath would choose to watch it on ITV ffs. Goodness me.

[Mr Adam]

BBC, always BBC

But out of interest what is the logic of both broadcasters showing the final? I know its always been done, but the whole point of BBC showing live sport is as a public service to ensure our citizens get to watch the biggest events.

If they were sharing with a pay-TV provider it would make perfect sense to share the final. But they're partnering with a free-to-air channel that relies on advertising revenue

I HATE ITV, but surely for the final, all the BBC are doing is taking viewership away from ITV.

Clearly BBC are better at it, so you can argue that's the public service element. But they don't have to be better at it. 

[themadsheep2001]

@MavReck man, ITV? You're better than that

[Rafalution]

whatever the pub puts on but i imagine that will be bbc

[CFuller]

18 minutes ago, Rob1981 said:

Obviously BBC.

They will all be fully suited up as well with their ties done up to eleven. Even though they are open necked shirts for the whole rest of the tournament. Every time.

ITV are always dressed to the nines for England friendlies/qualifiers and always go more casual at tournaments - even when England are playing. But at this tournament, they've gone back to ties and jackets for the three England games they've covered so far.

[Haguey]

12 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said:

@MavReck man, ITV? You're better than that

Can you ban mods?

[TM]

12 minutes ago, Mr Adam said:

BBC, always BBC

But out of interest what is the logic of both broadcasters showing the final? I know its always been done, but the whole point of BBC showing live sport is as a public service to ensure our citizens get to watch the biggest events.

If they were sharing with a pay-TV provider it would make perfect sense to share the final. But they're partnering with a free-to-air channel that relies on advertising revenue

I HATE ITV, but surely for the final, all the BBC are doing is taking viewership away from ITV.

Clearly BBC are better at it, so you can argue that's the public service element. But they don't have to be better at it. 

only a quick google search but I think both channels showing the final of a major competition goes back a long way

BBC had the Euro 2008 final live with ITV showing highlights later on seems to be the only time it hasn't happened since 1998 (as far as I could be bothered to search) I honestly thought there was times where ITV weren't showing the final live and it was BBC as most of the memories from those finals are BBC - usually Motson screeching away.  "Trezegueeeeeeet" in the Euro 2000 final for example 

[Mr Adam]

1 minute ago, TM said:

only a quick google search but I think both channels showing the final of a major competition goes back a long way

BBC had the Euro 2008 final live with ITV showing highlights later on seems to be the only time it hasn't happened since 1998 (as far as I could be bothered to search) I honestly thought there was times where ITV weren't showing the final live and it was BBC as most of the memories from those finals are BBC - usually Motson screeching away.  "Trezegueeeeeeet" in the Euro 2000 final for example 

Yeh I know its gone back forever. Same with the FA Cup. I'm just wanting to understand the logic behind the BBC as a state owned broadcaster taking away advertising revenue from ITV in showing the exact same match.

To be clear I don't really care, and this isn't an "anti-BBC" post or discussion. Just interested if anybody knows the logic.

Edited July 8, 2021 by Mr Adam

[Rob1981]

22 minutes ago, CFuller said:

ITV are always dressed to the nines for England friendlies/qualifiers and always go more casual at tournaments - even when England are playing. But at this tournament, they've gone back to ties and jackets for the three England games they've covered so far.

BBC are always in suits and ties for the final but not for the other games. Regardless of whether England are playing or not.

[Gazza D]

I'll stand in solidarity with @MavReck

[Pompeyboyz]

Unless ITV can give us Neville and McCoist on commentary, I will be all over BBC

[EnterUsernameHere]

18 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said:

Unless ITV can give us Neville and McCoist on commentary, I will be all over BBC

Yeah McCoist (not Neville) would be a game changer for me but can't see it.

I'll probably just watch the 90 mins and skip build up, will be too nauseating.

[MavReck]

57 minutes ago, Haguey said:

Can you ban mods?

[scott MUFC]

ITV is cursed, so BBC

[YouReds]

BBC just to see a small sneak of Alex Scott 

[VP.]

4 minutes ago, scott MUFC said:

ITV is cursed, so BBC

Surely that ended last night?

[AK22]

Tbf, the ITV panel of Keane, Neville and Wright is more than decent but they automatically lose all their points because of the comms partnership. 
So, BBC it is for me. Jenas is annoying but not enough to consider entertaining another 90-120 mins of Matterface and Dixon. 

[pearcey_90]

BBC, just because it’s no Matterface or Pougtach. Who both of them make the football viewing absolutely dreadful. 

Matterface needs sacking off. Was an absolute mess last night, and for iconic commentary in years to come, he was just not that. 

[craigcwwe]

4 hours ago, Lucas said:

No poll, so I've added one.

Great work.  forgot that part. 

 

[Tikka Mezzala]

Three ITV *******! 

[VP.]

9 minutes ago, Tikka Mezzala said:

Three ITV *******! 

ITV got us to a final so I'm sticking with them, us three will be immortalised on here when it comes home.

[Tikka Mezzala]

1 minute ago, VP. said:

ITV got us to a final so I'm sticking with them, us three will be immortalised on here when it comes home.

The three lions!

[VP.]

Just now, Tikka Mezzala said:

The three lions!

[john1]

BBC obvs  

[martinji]

BBC because Pougatch and Matterface. Might flick about a bit depending on pundits though. I do enjoy an angry Roy Keane. 

[Rebs]

BBC...and it'll be in uhd as well whereas I don't think ITV is 

[sebsy]

Commentary team is the main factor for me, so even though Lineker is miles better than Pougatch, I would have gone ITV had they gone with the team of Tyldesley and McCoist. However, as they have inexplicably gone with the woeful Matterface and Dixon, BBC's not quite as bad pairing of Pearce and Keown get the nod.

[Lucas]

9 hours ago, Rebs said:

BBC...and it'll be in uhd as well whereas I don't think ITV is 

Have to say I tried the UHD stream on iPlayer and couldn't really tell much difference. If anything the coverage seemed darker/duller

[TM]

1 hour ago, sebsy said:

Commentary team is the main factor for me, so even though Lineker is miles better than Pougatch, I would have gone ITV had they gone with the team of Tyldesley and McCoist. However, as they have inexplicably gone with the woeful Matterface and Dixon, BBC's not quite as bad pairing of Pearce and Keown get the nod.

unless that's been announced, I expect the BBC commentary team to be Mowbray and Jenas as it's been for all England games

if that was the team, it's sort of 50-50 on which channel to pick (other than the pundits) can't stand Pearce and Keown adds nothing

[Anthrax Dave]

TV on but Radio Commentary from BBC Five Live, for me.

[Nordan]

NRK1.

[VP.]

Matterface is pretty crap but Dixon isn't too bad, does at least say what he thinks and is certainly less annoying than Jenas. And Pearce is simply insufferable!

Love Lineker and Shearer but Neville, Wright and Keane slightly edge it and Emma Hayes seems equal to Alex Scott minus the looks sadly.

Adverts drive me mad on ITV but then that's why it's free.

[BoroPhil]

BBC because no ads.

Am I the only person who thinks Matterface isn't *that* bad?

[SouthCoastRed]

1 minute ago, BoroPhil said:

BBC because no ads.

Am I the only person who thinks Matterface isn't *that* bad?

Yes