Pukey Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Seeing as basically all of despise the pundits and commentators I thought we might as well have a general thread on the subject. Why restrict ourselves to match threads! So yeah, use this thread discuss how ****ing awful Sam Matterface is amongst other things. What's the worst bit of commentary so far? Why don't we have better pundits? Why can't we preserve Barry Davies and have him commentating until the end of time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillHoward42 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Ally McCoist the only commentator I enjoy, which says a lot about how bad the rest are. Even then I just appreciate his excitement and enthusiasm and watching the games. It comes across really well when watching/listening. Punditry wise, Alex Scott I know has been very outspoken, which has been great. But I also appreciate her insight and football knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Sandman Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Yeah most of the women actually understand the game. Pearce calling a scissor a bicycle was daft. Overall they just steal a living, genetic after generic sound bite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 As I said in one of the match threads, pundit wise a mix of Alex Scott, Keane and Wrighty would be acceptable. Champion and McCoist for one commentary team, then steal John Murray from 5live with probably Neville for another. Then take Dixon, Hartson, Pougatch, Dublin et all outside, and shoot them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Jon Champion, Clive Tysleley are the best commentators. Ally McCoist the best co-commentator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Pougatch has been extraordinary. A total bellend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickybricks14 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 So far on the BBC we've had to listen to Dublin, keown, jenas and Murphy as co-comentators. Dublin seems like a nice bloke but he's not the best commentator. As for the other three? Qatar can keep them. Also annoyed by the fact that every tournament the BBC roll out Rio Ferdinand like he's some kind of deity. He can get in the bin aswell 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Failey Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Said it in the match thread, Kompany seems a really good pundit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) Danny Murphy is terrible, can't remember which channel/station he's on, but truly awful. Edit - its Talksport which is obviously full of terrible pundits, but he is so dull and never has anything worthwhile to contribute at all. Edited November 23, 2022 by Ginger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted November 23, 2022 Administrators Share Posted November 23, 2022 BBC treating Canada like farmers tonight really annoyed me. Best team in CONCACAF qualifiers, very organised with a number of players playing in top divisions in Europe. I wasn't surprised that they were competitive but BBC thought they'd roll over. No doubt USA gets the same treatment on Friday too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinji Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, Lucas said: BBC treating Canada like farmers tonight really annoyed me. Best team in CONCACAF qualifiers, very organised with a number of players playing in top divisions in Europe. I wasn't surprised that they were competitive but BBC thought they'd roll over. No doubt USA gets the same treatment on Friday too. same as Matterface with Japan. Going on as if they were some plucky no hopers when they've got to the last 16 is it three times in recent tournaments? it's just really lazy. Them beating Germany in my eyes is a slight to moderate surprise, not a major shock. Pougatch is the absolute worst though. Also can't stand Clinton Morrison who 5 live use a lot. Murphy isn't great but I'd take him over Keown and Hartson, personal taste though, they are much of a muchness. I get frustrated when we're presented with a panel of all British pundits for games between non British nations. It's much better when the pundits have at least a link to the countries playing, and preferably a deep knowledge of their players, tactics and background going in to the tournament. Instead we get generic comments like "we know their forwards are always dangerous" or "they'll be looking to such-and-such (who played/plays in the Premier League) to make a difference". Basically the level of insight you'd get from a random in the pub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) Hartson is pure dreary Edited November 24, 2022 by Ackter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Lucas said: I wasn't surprised that they were competitive but BBC thought they'd roll over. No doubt USA gets the same treatment on Friday too. Be the opposite. USA will be hyped to the maxed because of players playing in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 I will trade Martin Tyler for anyone else mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Who actually thought that Sam Matterface was a good commentator and good enough to be head of the commentators at ITV? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Thought McCoist was poor during the Germany Japan game. It was the same stuff over and over and thought some of this calls were all over the place. Usually enjoy him on Amazon though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tummyowl Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Currently listening to the build up to Uruguay V South Korea, Tim Vickery . He's so so good. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 One way to get through Clinton Morrison on co-comms is to count how many times he says "to be fair" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Laura Woods, warming to her relaxed method of presenting, think she’d be good at telling people bad news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted November 24, 2022 Administrators Share Posted November 24, 2022 9 hours ago, pearcey_90 said: Be the opposite. USA will be hyped to the maxed because of players playing in the Premier League. Like "why is Aaronson on the bench" sort of hype of ridiculing of the team? That what you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, Barnzy said: Laura Woods, warming to her relaxed method of presenting, think she’d be good at telling people bad news Her and Kelly Cates are great. 15 minutes ago, Lucas said: Like "why is Aaronson on the bench" sort of hype of ridiculing of the team? That what you mean? Tbf I'm sure some Americans who watch the team regularly were asking about that, but no doubt the pundits here were only asking as he plays in the PL and they've heard of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sned Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Peter Walton must have the easiest gig going. Would love to know what he makes from ITV. Speaks about twice a game and spends 20 seconds repeating the same thing every single time and adding zero new insight. Bet he can't believe his luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Snedhead said: Peter Walton must have the easiest gig going. Would love to know what he makes from ITV. Speaks about twice a game and spends 20 seconds repeating the same thing every single time and adding zero new insight. Bet he can't believe his luck. Turn up. Agree with referee's decision. Get Paid. Go Home. Repeat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons FC Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Sam Matterface has been super dreadful. Early in the Argentina SA game he mentioned the name of one of the Saudi Arabia players and said something along the lines of "there's something he can tell his grandchildren - he stopped Lionel Messi from getting to the ball". It was so dismissive and patronising that as soon as he said it I was rooting for SA. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I don’t understand the fascination with McCoist. Sure he’s happy and sounds excited to be there but in terms of intelligent analysis and punditry he’s got nothing. Seems very overrated to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Weezer said: I don’t understand the fascination with McCoist. Sure he’s happy and sounds excited to be there but in terms of intelligent analysis and punditry he’s got nothing. Seems very overrated to me. He's not a good analyst but what you have to remember is it's poor analysis and enthusiasm vs poor analysis and apathy/boredom. Easy win for Ally. Edited November 25, 2022 by EnterUsernameHere 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 21 hours ago, Lucas said: Like "why is Aaronson on the bench" sort of hype of ridiculing of the team? That what you mean? 20 hours ago, Pukey said: Tbf I'm sure some Americans who watch the team regularly were asking about that, but no doubt the pundits here were only asking as he plays in the PL and they've heard of him. Aaronson was a surprising omission because he was one of the best players from qualifying, but if it's between him and Weah, then the latter is an understandable selection. Personally, I'd play both, with Weah up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Yes it's like Nevin on 5 live, he sounds enthusiastic about football. I actually don't mind Danny Murphy that much tbh, he's not great but I can bear him, he offers opinions even if they aren't groundbreaking. Whereas for Keown or Dublin I don't get why they even bother, just say what you see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: He's not a good analyst but what you have to remember is it's poor analysis and enthusiasm vs poor analysis and apathy/boredom. Easy win for Ally. I actually preferred Lawrenson’s OTT apathy to McCoist’s excitement tbf, but maybe that says more about me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchuk Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Andros Townsend on Poland v Saudi Arabia seems to be enjoying himself, although he did jinx Saudi Arabia by saying they were back in control of the game immediately before Poland went down the other end and scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, titchuk said: Andros Townsend on Poland v Saudi Arabia seems to be enjoying himself, although he did jinx Saudi Arabia by saying they were back in control of the game immediately before Poland went down the other end and scored. Pretty embarassing that he couldn't concentrate on a match until he'd asked Ronaldo for his shirt. But he's allright Edited November 26, 2022 by The_jagster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchuk Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, The_jagster said: Pretty embarassing that he couldn't concentrate on a match until he'd asked Ronaldo for his shirt. But he's allright Yeah that made me laugh, wasn't fully paying attention so no idea what it had to do with Poland v Saudi Arabia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I’m glad Lucy Zelić is nowhere near the broadcasting for the World Cup. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo7 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Not sure I understand the outrage here tbh. I’ve no problem with countries being deemed to have certain footballing “cultures”. I don’t think it’s disrespectful or racist. Brazilian flamboyance, Italian dark arts, German efficiency, etc, etc. I don’t know enough about Iranian football to know the accuracy of his generalisation but it’s nothing to do with being brown skinned. His comments on the Guatemalan referee are odd though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, titchuk said: Andros Townsend on Poland v Saudi Arabia seems to be enjoying himself, although he did jinx Saudi Arabia by saying they were back in control of the game immediately before Poland went down the other end and scored. Not heard the line "I was bricking it" too many times on a live commentary Edited November 26, 2022 by Coulthard's Jaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Been surprised by Joe Cole. Seems intelligent and does a bit of research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, Smallen said: Been surprised by Joe Cole. Seems intelligent and does a bit of research. Thank god you said seems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: Thank god you said seems The bar is so low When you compare him to Gary Neville, who clearly doesn’t watch any football outside of Man Utd, he comes across like Einstein. Edited November 27, 2022 by Smallen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Yeah, I think Cole comes across alright. He seems to have made some effort to research teams and players beyond the usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Brazilian commentator Cléber Machado said that Croatian player Juranovic plays for English club Celtic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 27/11/2022 at 09:09, Smallen said: Been surprised by Joe Cole. Seems intelligent and does a bit of research. Apart from when he went full African stereotype and said that their playstyle was "pace and power". Think it was in the pre-match for Ghana. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 26/11/2022 at 14:45, Gizmo7 said: Not sure I understand the outrage here tbh. I’ve no problem with countries being deemed to have certain footballing “cultures”. I don’t think it’s disrespectful or racist. Brazilian flamboyance, Italian dark arts, German efficiency, etc, etc. I don’t know enough about Iranian football to know the accuracy of his generalisation but it’s nothing to do with being brown skinned. His comments on the Guatemalan referee are odd though. I just assumed he was saying that in Guatemala, the referee is used to letting these tackles go as it’s a routine thing in their league, and he experienced this when he had referees from there referee games for USA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Where’s Jon Champion gone, did a couple of early games and has now vanished Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 He's on commentary right now for Portugal vs. Uruguay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, Astafjevs said: He's on commentary right now for Portugal vs. Uruguay Ah ok, I got the cup draw on at the moment, cheers, good news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Watching on the screens out here in bars and fan zones it’s all beIN Sports so I have to put up with Keys and Gray in the studio before, during and after games Welcome break tonight as I’m having a quite one in and watching the last two games on ITV Player though…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Eni Aluko...so, so bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Parker Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Pretty sure Ally McCoist is losing it game by game, first he identified the two Uruguay strikers as the "two man's up front" and is now calling the Uruguay number 6 Bencantur. He'll be shipped off by the final to a wee padded cell I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I’m still convinced he never had it in the first place. He’s the co-commentator version of Peter Drury, people bang on about how great he is but I find it all nonsense tbh. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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