EnterUsernameHere Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, SouthCoastRed said: Spinozza would have worth a shout without his injury Yeah true, he'd have been nailed on for it without that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Lermon said: I think England have a strong team to go in the World Cup but will be surprised if they get anywhere near as far. We have had kind of home advantage. But will be cool watching the World Cup in 12 months time. 12 months?? Are you sure about that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: You’ve taken my role as Rob guardian Hahaha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbrother Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, aggressive minor said: Has anyone checked on Rob? He was crying at the pre match footage Hopefully hes a tree surgeon, got half a ****ing log in the garden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Weezer said: 2nd place in a major tournament is still a massive achievement. Especially when you consider where Phillips was 12 months ago. They can wear them with pride. Better than immediately ripping them off like petulant children. Kinda telling when you look back at the players who bothered keeping the medals on 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Lermon said: I think England have a strong team to go in the World Cup but will be surprised if they get anywhere near as far. We have had kind of home advantage. But will be cool watching the World Cup in 18 months time. Winter World cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Ah I'm really annoyed at the likes of Sterling and Grealish. Shirked responsibility when they were needed the most. I also hate bringing on players just to take pens. It's dumb and I'm sure it doesn't work more often than not. Southgate managed the game horribly, you can tell Mancini is the better manager with the better group of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said: Yeah true, he'd have been nailed on for it without that. Spinazzola = Grosso. Unfortunately, I don't think he'll be back on this level considering the severeness of the injury and his age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueglobefootball123 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Heartwork said: I hope that today will be the lesson he needed. There's no way he won't be told a million times this summer that he needs to get better at using his subs and one can only hope he actually listens. Ignore all the scapegoating though. Agreed, I doubted Southgate at the start of the tournament but he did most things right, however in your final it was screaming for some subs in the second half and especially full time - he’s definitely the man for the job and I’m sure he’ll learn from this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: They can wear or not wear them however they like imo. Sure second won't feel like much consolation to Saka right now Completely agree. Don’t get the issue. If they wear them or not, they’d probably get criticised anyway. So many snow flakes who get offended at everything here. i Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Well, on to freezing our bollocks off in fan parks around the country on the 18th December 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lermon Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Oh is it. My mistake. Must be the Dubai one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Btw, do people still think Donnarumma is going to fight for the starting spot with Navas? The next all-time great, it's just ridiculous how good Italy is at producing goalkeepers. Literally one all-time great after another, perfect timing. With a dozen more top class keepers inbetween. Lets just wait and see, far too early to tell. ..."top class keepers".... Who exactly apart from Zoff and Buffon? I can´t recall any. And spare me the names of flycatcher Zenga or even Toldo Edited July 11, 2021 by Carambau Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Also, I'm absolutely ****ing sick of all the Grealish hype. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, VamPook said: Kinda telling when you look back at the players who bothered keeping the medals on 🤣 go on, give us your analysis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, ajw10 said: Also, I'm absolutely ****ing sick of all the Grealish hype. The hype needs to die down a little. There is way too much expectation on him when he comes on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, aggressive minor said: Oh bore off Bore off for what? I'm hardly in the habit of defending Arsenal players. I know Sterling is beyond any form of criticism but he's bottled it and hid from the responsibility that he should be taking as a senior player. Grealish as well to a lesser extent. Edited July 11, 2021 by brett.spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Carambau said: Lets just wait and see, far too early to tell. ..."all-time greats".... Who exactly apart from Zoff and Buffon? I can´t recall any. And spare me the names of flycatcher Zenga or even Toldo Zoff-Zenga-Pagliuca-Buffon Zenga was easily the best keeper in late 80s and early 90s, then came Pagliuca and obviously Buffon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, ajw10 said: Also, I'm absolutely ****ing sick of all the Grealish hype. Grealish brought some fresh air when he came on though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Without the injury, Spinazzola easily gets into my Best XI. As it is, I'd probably have Shaw at LB ahead of him. But to touch on GunmaN's point, such a serious injury at 28 is a major momentum-killer. Even with the World Cup only 18 months away, I suspect Spinazzola might only be a one-tournament wonder. A real shame if it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan045 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Keep the heads up Saka, Rashford & Sancho. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 somebody sent me this 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, ajw10 said: Also, I'm absolutely ****ing sick of all the Grealish hype. What? He did ok when he came on, didn't really carry England to a win but they weren't winning when he came on either so I'm not sure why you'd pick him out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Synthahols_for_Girls said: Rashford to be rightly cunted for this You expect a GK to guess right roughly 50% of the time, knock off 10% or so for a worldey and a keeper should expect to save 2 out of the 5 in a pen shootout Both keepers managed this and you cant argue with an honest penalty where the keeper guesses right Difference was Rashford decided to play johnny big bollox on his run up and then proceeded to twit his shot against the post He's actually got a very good penalty record doing it. And your stats are also made up nonsense Top post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Btw, Grealish shouldn't be allowed to wear socks in Totti style anymore if he's afraid to take pens. Just now, themadsheep2001 said: He's actually got a very good penalty record doing it. And your stats are also made up nonsense Top post Both him and Belotti are great takers, but took way too long on the run up and then got in their own heads. Sancho and Saka just looked like players who didn't even want to take a pen. Edited July 11, 2021 by GunmaN1905 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpillBlood Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, metal_guitarist said: That is solely on Southgate. ***** subs, ****ing coward. Kane was absolutely terrible after the first half, he's our captain and offered absolutely nothing. I thought I'd be more gutted but I'm more angry at Southgate. His subs and our 2nd half tactics/performance were just so poor. Both their CBs were on yellow cards yet he doesn't bring on players to exploit it. Why the heck did be bring on Saka over Sancho, why leave it so late for Grealish. It's been fun but my word did we bollock this up. Sadly, Italy deserved it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, brett.spurs said: Bore off for what? I'm hardly in the habit of defending Arsenal players. I know Sterling is beyond any form of criticism but he's bottled it and hid from the responsibility that he should be taking as a senior player. Grealish as well to a lesser extent. Southgate came out and said "I chose the players to take penalties" so I don't think anyone can have a go at Sterling if he wasn't picked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, EnterUsernameHere said: What? He did ok when he came on, didn't really carry England to a win but they weren't winning when he came on either so I'm not sure why you'd pick him out? Grealish should've got more play time at least he brought some excitement in the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: They can wear or not wear them however they like imo. True, but I'd rather they at least waited until they got off the podium. It looks pathetic and disrespectful when they rip it off the second it's put on them. And what does it change, does pulling it off immediately make you forget you've just lost a final? I just find it weird how keen they are to rip it off, like they're doing it for show. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, brett.spurs said: Bore off for what? I'm hardly in the habit of defending Arsenal players. I know Sterling is beyond any form of criticism but he's bottled it and hid from the responsibility that he should be taking as a senior player. Grealish as well to a lesser extent. Yeah I agree. Really disappointed in the likes of Sterling for not stepping up. 1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said: What? He did ok when he came on, didn't really carry England to a win but they weren't winning when he came on either so I'm not sure why you'd pick him out? He was ok, sure. But the hype all tournament has been that he's this wonderful game changer who is amazing at everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, GunmaN1905 said: Zoff-Zenga-Pagliuca-Buffon Zenga was easily the best keeper in late 80s and early 90s, then came Pagliuca and obviously Buffon. Zenga...lol. Dassajev, Taffarel, Schmeichel, Preudhomme were the big ones at that time, no place for flycatcher Zenga... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbrother Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Carambau said: Lets just wait and see, far too early to tell. ..."top class keepers".... Who exactly apart from Zoff and Buffon? I can´t recall any. And spare me the names of flycatcher Zenga or even Toldo Pagliuca, Peruzzi... both very good keepers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 what's with all the handshaking on the podium in these covid times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedge11 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Kane didn’t have a single shot tonight, what does that say about how we played, and how well Bonucci and Chiellini controlled us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, ajw10 said: Yeah I agree. Really disappointed in the likes of Sterling for not stepping up. He was ok, sure. But the hype all tournament has been that he's this wonderful game changer who is amazing at everything. He wasn't a game changer at all. In fairness to those (myself included) though, people thought he should have started. Coming off the bench is a different thing altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I just know there will be a lot of people doing the opposite, but this needs to be said still. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Great to see all these England fans who were so behind the team, just rip into them. Keep it up! nothing wrong with constructive criticism btw, try it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Why does Italy have the better group of players Their subs bench vs England's just looked like total mismanagement by the lack of usage there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 Sterling isn't good at penalties Have no problem with him not taking one, but it probably means leaving him on for the full 120 minutes was a mistake. Should have used our subs properly and gone for the win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 The gammon will be going off it tonight - kudos to the young lads who showed guts to come forwards and take their pens, but the pens themselves were poor. England got their tactics wrong from the 2nd half - Southgate (like Bruce does) dropped England onto the edge of our 18 yard box and defended from there. It's asking for trouble. Feel sorry for Rashford, Sterling and Saka who will doubtlessly now be the target for lots of vile racist abuse. They and the rest can hold their heads high - making the final is a terrific achievement. It just wasn't to be in the end. Well done Italy - best team won. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, bestbrother said: Pagliuca, Peruzzi... both very good keepers. very good yes. But not "top class"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, sedge11 said: Kane didn’t have a single shot tonight, what does that say about how we played, and how well Bonucci and Chiellini controlled us. all depends on the role he was assigned to by Southgate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coulthard's Jaw Posted July 11, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 ffs bg every post I see from you has the word gammon in it, can you give it a rest, this isn't the north east labour facebook group, know your audience. 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Weezer said: True, but I'd rather they at least waited until they got off the podium. It looks pathetic and disrespectful when they rip it off the second it's put on them. And what does it change, does pulling it off immediately make you forget you've just lost a final? I just find it weird how keen they are to rip it off, like they're doing it for show. Done a few interviews with players after losing. Remember it being described as a millstone round their neck. Can tell you know they absolutely aren't thinking about what's round them. I'm not gonna judge any player's reaction to losing. Whatever we feel, it'll be infinitely worse for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 This says a lot about certain sections of our fanbase. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Pickford once again proved that he's a big game player though. Did great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Carambau said: very good yes. But not "top class"... they are compared to say Barthez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Geordie said: The gammon will be going off it tonight - kudos to the young lads who showed guts to come forwards and take their pens, but the pens themselves were poor. England got their tactics wrong from the 2nd half - Southgate (like Bruce does) dropped England onto the edge of our 18 yard box and defended from there. It's asking for trouble. Feel sorry for Rashford, Sterling and Saka who will doubtlessly now be the target for lots of vile racist abuse. They and the rest can hold their heads high - making the final is a terrific achievement. It just wasn't to be in the end. Well done Italy - best team won. **** off you **** 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: gammon Had to google it, looks tasty. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedge11 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: I just know there will be a lot of people doing the opposite, but this needs to be said still. That fact this needs to be said is so sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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