Weezer Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Pompeyboyz said: I just know there will be a lot of people doing the opposite, but this needs to be said still. Who is this 'advice' for? Is the type of person that racially abuses people suddenly going to stop and think "oh, maybe I shouldn't do that"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, buffalo said: they are compared to say Barthez Yeah, Barthez wasnt "top class" either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Sterling isn't good at penalties Have no problem with him not taking one, but it probably means leaving him on for the full 120 minutes was a mistake. Should have used our subs properly and gone for the win. Yeah I assumed he was going to come off for Rashford for the pens. I was quite confident for the pens as I thought we had a few on there who could score but then they ddin't step up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: He wasn't a game changer at all. In fairness to those (myself included) though, people thought he should have started. Coming off the bench is a different thing altogether. I think my issue is that he plays up to the adulation from the fans but won't step up when needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Saka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidel Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Italy have been the the best team the entire tournament, theres been a couple of roller coaster moments in games but theyve come through them. They fully deserved their win tonight, England have played a decent tournament and can take solace that theyve performed more as a team than they have for many a tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: Yeah I assumed he was going to come off for Rashford for the pens. I was quite confident for the pens as I thought we had a few on there who could score but then they ddin't step up I was convinced that Stones would step up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: Had to google it, looks tasty. I thought 'gammon' was how an Italian says 'come on' 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: The gammon will be going off it tonight Jesus don’t you ever ****ing stop 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 You know who did frighten me every time he dribbled at our defence? Federico Chiesa. Great player, felt the game slowed down a bit after he came off and there was an opportunity for England to be more attacking when he came off injured that we did not take. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Parker Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, CFuller said: This says a lot about certain sections of our fanbase. It tells me that 16.6k people cannot spell more than anything. Absolutely gutted for Saka, such a good player and it takes courage to take the 5th penalty. Feel for the England lads, they're a good side and will be for years to come. Not gutted for the pundits and media nonsense that surrounds them however. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Gutted. We've done so well and much to build on in the future though. Team can be so proud though. This is the best and most enjoyable England side I've ever seen. Worse possible to lose though with 3 persons of colour missing. I dread the racist abuse that is almost certainly coming Rashford Saka and Sanchos way in social media. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 you can't help but love Chiellini so enthusiastic about everything 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, ajw10 said: I was convinced that Stones would step up Stones used to be a decent penalty taker when he was younger IIRC, remember him chipping a couple into the top corner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Does gammon mean something else these days? It's been misused loads of times in this thread today. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Fair play to Maguire stepping up and taking one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Rashford should have came on for Sterling at start of ET. Was an obvious proactive sub to get the momentum on our side. To leave it till the final minute is just proper weird, basically said from Gareth that he’d rather have pens then risk losing it in extra time, which I can never get on board with when you eventually lose the shootout. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, TM said: you can't help but love Chiellini so enthusiastic about everything I don't want to be rude, but that Tottenham post-game interview needs to be posted here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, ajw10 said: I think my issue is that he plays up to the adulation from the fans but won't step up when needed. Yeah maybe. I'm still convinced he should be played ahead of Mount but the tournament is over now, so I'll let it go. Just now, av3ry said: You know who did frighten me every time he dribbled at our defence? Federico Chiesa. Great player, felt the game slowed down a bit after he came off and there was an opportunity for England to be more attacking when he came off injured that we did not take. Chiesa was incredible. I'd absolutely love him at Liverpool it he's normally as good as he was this tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, av3ry said: You know who did frighten me every time he dribbled at our defence? Federico Chiesa. Great player, felt the game slowed down a bit after he came off and there was an opportunity for England to be more attacking when he came off injured that we did not take. Is he available? Hardly see that kind of (successful)runs by players anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, metal_guitarist said: Stones used to be a decent penalty taker when he was younger IIRC, remember him chipping a couple into the top corner when he was younger? he's only 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I don't recall Stones ever taking one for us fwiw (even in shootouts) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM99 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Saka has balls of steel to step up to the plate and take a penalty in that situation - I think the decision to have him take that penalty is questionable but Southgate must have his reasons. Thought overall on the night Italy deserved the win, we started off really well and then slowly started letting it slip towards the end of the first half and didn't get a grip again until well into extra time. Think Southgate got some key decisions wrong tonight unfortunately but across the tournament he and the team have done the country proud and I think the national team is going in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 First thing the squad should do is have a total media blackout. No looking at the headlines looking for scapegoats, no talking to interviewers looking to rub salt into the wounds. Stay together, regroup and recover. Come back when you've had the time to process everything that's happened tonight, and come back stronger from it. Big kudos to Southgate for coming out and taking the fall for the penalties. Standing up and admitting he was the one who got it wrong, protecting his players from criticism. I respect that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Jesus don’t you ever ****ing stop Rob is alive ! edit- I didn’t mean that to sound rude. Hope you’re okay, I don’t know anyone who wanted England to win as much as you Edited July 11, 2021 by aggressive minor 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, buffalo said: when he was younger? he's only 27 Just now, Bootador said: I don't recall Stones ever taking one for us fwiw (even in shootouts) Was in his Barnsley/Everton days, never seen him take one at City 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, TM said: you can't help but love Chiellini so enthusiastic about everything all thanks to Luis Suarez' love bite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbrother Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Carambau said: very good yes. But not "top class"... Opinions are allowed to be different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Incredible tournament England. I think Southgate ****ed it and didn't learn his lesson from the Croatia semi final. Very proud of the whole team though and gutted for Saka who should never have been taking that penalty. There are fans of other teams getting a kick out of this who will never know what this is like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said: Fair play to Maguire stepping up and taking one Maguire's pen was excellent too. Right in the postage stamp. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Shame there was no Foden to come on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 If Southgate did choose the takers and made the 19 year old the 5th taker that’s some call. It’s easy to say in hindsight but that just seems like a crazy thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said: Fair play to Maguire stepping up and taking one best penalty of the shootout for me, put your foot through it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, aggressive minor said: Rob is alive ! I breathed easier too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 If a player wants to take a penalty bad enough they will. I've heard enough comments from managers/players in the past. If put yourself forward you likely to be taking one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, TM said: best penalty of the shootout for me, put your foot through it That was amazing Smashed the camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Smallen said: If Southgate did choose the takers and made the 19 year old the 5th taker that’s some call. It’s easy to say in hindsight but that just seems like a crazy thing to do. Yeah, I'm just going to assume Saka is the 5th best penalty taker on the pitch in training out of those players (which is possible if that's about senior penalty takers on the other page is correct). Making him 5th penalty taker though, that's the wrong call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Edited July 11, 2021 by Big Geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Bocelli to open the Euros, Fleetwood Mac to close it out. Couldn't have picked better myself, well done BBC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, brez22 said: I would have never put Saka on pen 5. Its pressure and expectation that I think is unfair. In the huddle you could see Saka put his hand up I assume it was to volunteer? I mean, it is also all down to confidence. It all changes when you take that walk though I'm sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Bootador said: Yeah, I'm just going to assume Saka is the 5th best penalty taker on the pitch in training out of those players (which is possible if that's about senior penalty takers on the other page is correct). Making him 5th penalty taker though, that's the wrong call. This is the first pen I've ever seen him take. I think a few bottled it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Gone for an acoustic Fleetwood Mac instead of the Noel Gallagher. Didn’t see that coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Geordie said: It's started. Seriously pal, have an early night. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Geordie said: It's started. That was a few hours ago.. we're on the endgame now . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eenie Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: It's started. Edit: so this was from before the game? Edited July 11, 2021 by eenie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Geordie said: It's started. This is from before the game for gods sake. Have you nothing better to do? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Geordie said: It's started. That was at 7:45. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, ajw10 said: This is the first pen I've ever seen him take. I think a few bottled it Also, I don't mind it usually when players say no as it shows courage, and I'm obviously emotionally invested in Saka. However, if you are letting a 19 year old take a decisive penalty like that then I'm not sure it shows courage. I think it shows cowardice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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