ringwoodrob Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Roy tacticaly out thought,and me I thought they would attack Johnson not Baines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 well, i didnt expect to get much from this game and theres certainly lots of positives to take from this performance ( though i hope Sturridge isnt badly injured ) we need to sort out the left side and more practice on defending set pieces, i think we can still qualify, but we really have to win both remaining games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
player_65 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Unlucky England, Italy just a bit more clinical. Another great game, can only echo what others have said about the start to the tournament. 7 winners from 7 too, watch Japan v Cote D'Ivoire be a scoreless snoozefest now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Rooney appalling, Gerrard poor, Baines exposed 2 vs 1 constantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Shaw should have played. [/Matthew Le God] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 playing somebody who can actually play on the left would be a good idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Local circumstances be damned, England looked worn out minutes after the start of the 2nd half. No other team has looked this way so far. Preparation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaaaave Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Dude they're practically playing in a giant pot heating boiling water. Of course there's going to be no sense of urgency as much as you'd try. are you a tabloid headline writer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Lots of effort, but ultimately not good enough. Rooney, Johnson and Gerrard choked tonight. Sterling is the future, and the England side should be built around that kid. The sad thing is, that we#ll continue to see Rooney in an England shirt for another 5 years. Why? Sponsors - even though he doesn't perform when it matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Italy schooling England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Wasn't that bad from England. Rooney and Gerrard should be dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaaaave Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Local circumstances be damned, England looked worn out minutes after the start of the 2nd half. No other team has looked this way so far. Preparation? this was the first game played in manaus. conditions markedly different than most of the other sites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Should investigate Wayne for match fixing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracken Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 We're so unbalanced with Rooney in that side. We either have to play him up front (which would mean changing formation or dropping Sturridge, so let's not do that) or we drop him (let's do that). He's not been good enough for England for a very long time, we have players on much better form who can play in their natural positions, yet we spend so much time and effort trying to fit Rooney in somewhere and it's just hurting the team. Drop him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoroPhil Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 'Assuming' we beat Costa Rica, a draw would probably be enough in the Uruguay game. it's a good point this. assuming Italy beat CR Ita 6 CR 3 Eng 1 Uru 1 Uruguay smashing Italy aside, we go through with a win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 'Assuming' we beat Costa Rica, a draw would probably be enough in the Uruguay game. Did you see Costa Rica? Can't assume anything right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Local circumstances be damned, England looked worn out minutes after the start of the 2nd half. No other team has looked this way so far. Preparation? Preparation. England trained in Miami, but it was apparently not good enough. Italy stayed home, but had sauna sessions. Paid off, I say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 England weren't that bad. Same side will beat the other 2 teams. Calls to drop Gerard are ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalima Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Since when did Gerrard stop saying "ehm" between sentences? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 this was the first game played in manaus. conditions markedly different than most of the other sites. Yep, its conditions are much tougher than the previous locations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lermon Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 They needed Heskey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Rooney & Gerrard should be dropped after that but I'm certain they won't be dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohanzee Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Woy should have listened to Scholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 On the basis of that we should be able to win the next 2. Final ball and Rooney shocking. I'm a bit disappointed but positive about the next games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 playing somebody who can actually play on the left would be a good idea Henry nailed it early on. England always pick the best players but they do not select the best players for the positions, Rooney on the left and for the first half doing more tracking back than anything else. Has been a problem for England for years. Whoever loses the next game goes home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 So ill risk a million angry quotes but i don't get the sterling wankfest, he was nothing special at all. Although there were obviously a number of players much worse. Rooney's 4th tournament doing absolutely **** all, shock horror. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Local circumstances be damned, England looked worn out minutes after the start of the 2nd half. No other team has looked this way so far. Preparation? Italy looked just as knackered, if not moreso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Should never have taken Welbeck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apaco Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 According to the FM researchers Rooney is theese two teams has got.......according to what everyone else sees Pirlo is for the 10th year in a row one of the 5 best players in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Did you see Costa Rica? Can't assume anything right now.Yep, hence the tags. Still, don't lose and we only have to match Uruguay's result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 no wonder United did so badly with Phil saying there is still time with 5 to go... pitch didn't help though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz & The Devil Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Italy looked just as knackered, if not moreso. Italy have players who can play one and two touch passing and unfortunately England play five and six touch passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaroad Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 England have no idea how to control a match. The gun ho, all out, brute force, long ball getting knackered tactic does not work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracken Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Henry nailed it early on.England always pick the best players but they do not select the best players for the positions, Rooney on the left and for the first half doing more tracking back than anything else. Has been a problem for England for years. Whoever loses the next game goes home. Goes further than that, we also pick the squad with the best players (or most hyped players), rather than defining a style or system and picking the best players for that. Means we're always going to be unbalanced and we never get a fluid understanding or set way of playing because of the different personnel we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdunk Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Don't get the Rooney hate, he was nowhere near our worst player tonight. Gerrard, Henderson, baines and Johnson were all far worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 at times in the first half we looked alright going forward through sturridge, welbeck and sterling. defensively we looked **** on the left hand side, mainly due to baines not getting enough protection. rooney was absolutely dire..like, wow.. bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Should never have taken Welbeck off.Nah, he was poor and partially responsible for their second goal by not doing his job defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOStriker Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 So ill risk a million angry quotes but i don't get the sterling wankfest, he was nothing special at all. Although there were obviously a number of players much worse.Rooney's 4th tournament doing absolutely **** all, shock horror. Not angry, just pointing and laughing. Best player in an England Shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 He's tell you to shut it Gary! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Spiral Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 How was Henderson worse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zvonimir Boban Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Henry crying about Mario going shush, ****ing hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Nah, he was poor and partially responsible for their second goal by not doing his job defensively.Shh, don't you dare criticise WelbzHenry having a go at Balo, behave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Don't get the Rooney hate, he was nowhere near our worst player tonight. Gerrard, Henderson, baines and Johnson were all far worse. He was nothing short of absolutely horrific. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Nah, he was poor and partially responsible for their second goal by not doing his job defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Don't get the Rooney hate, he was nowhere near our worst player tonight. Gerrard, Henderson, baines and Johnson were all far worse.Johnson was ok, I was shocked too, Baines was exposed by Rooney and Welbeck's poor defending, Henderson was ok, Gerrard poor. Rooney did nothing apart from the assist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Goes further than that, we also pick the squad with the best players (or most hyped players), rather than defining a style or system and picking the best players for that. Means we're always going to be unbalanced and we never get a fluid understanding or set way of playing because of the different personnel we have. Pretty much what I said. You guys always select the best players but not the players to suit the system. God help if you guys ever have 7 top strikers, you will select them all and play a couple as holding midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I was wondering where all the players were who should have been on the left for thier 2nd goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Really shouldn't overly kneejerk to that performance, Italy weren't exactly hammering the goal - although they were more comfortable in possession we did have some good chances and for such an inexperienced squad, looked pretty good going forward. No issues with Centrebacks or Goalie either. And FFS it's Italy and super-Pirlo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Draw would probably have been the right result. Ah well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Italy looked just as knackered, if not moreso. Pirlo just looked like he was out for an evening stroll Rooney looked as if somebody had stuck him in a cooker for 90 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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