Football Manager 2020 Pre-Release Beta *Official* Feedback Thread

[zakbrown96]

Anyone know why in the match on Fm for me my mouse curser turns into an football, as want to get rid of it as super off putting when trying to watch haha 

[Scotty Walds]

22 minutes ago, zakbrown96 said:

Anyone know why in the match on Fm for me my mouse curser turns into an football, as want to get rid of it as super off putting when trying to watch haha 

Mine does that but as soon as I move it, it switches back to a normal arrow.

[zakbrown96]

Just now, Scotty Walds said:

Mine does that but as soon as I move it, it switches back to a normal arrow.

Same as you just irritating as get confused which is the match ball 😂

[Johnny Ace]

13 minutes ago, zakbrown96 said:

Same as you just irritating as get confused which is the match ball 😂

I quite like it, reminds me of the ol' Champ Man days

[zakbrown96]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said:

I quite like it, reminds me of the ol' Champ Man days

Can’t say I agree as I wasn’t into football manager till Fm10  on PSP 

Edited November 7, 2019 by zakbrown96

[kiwityke1983]

9 hours ago, Robioto said:

I've been saying this since they implemented it 3 years ago. It's extremely annoying and they should just wait for the outcome or at least have an option to turn it off at the start of a new save.

Last year in the beta I started a save and simmed it until the Brexit outcome to make sure it wouldn't randomly ruin my save. Then started a long term save with that save game as the brexit outcome is decided on the start of a new game. Either that or wait for full release and remove it in the editor. (I'm waiting this year)

Football Manager is the only part of my life that has been directly affected by Brexit. Especially as I choose to completely avoid politics and the news in my day to day life. Yet in my favourite video game it's forced upon me!

Yep as I messaged to my friend, I didn't care about Brexit until it started ruining MY FM saves, as I live the other side of the world and it won't affect me at all in my real life. 

[bigmattb28]

6 hours ago, zakbrown96 said:

Anyone know why in the match on Fm for me my mouse curser turns into an football, as want to get rid of it as super off putting when trying to watch haha 

 

6 hours ago, Scotty Walds said:

Mine does that but as soon as I move it, it switches back to a normal arrow.

Glad I'm not the only one this happens to. Don't know why it does it.

[Mr_Demus]

I might be blind, but I can't seem to find the option of me, the manager, handling contract extensions in my youth teams.

 

A note on that, I may be blind as well, but I also find the new responsibilities screen to be kind of cluttered and hard to navigate.

[kiwityke1983]

A few 100 years in the future videos coming out now and I thought the new club vision feature would lead to more dynamism in clubs/league success. In previous versions I've seen Liverpool fall out of the football league before. 

This year its just the big clubs dominating their respective leagues. Citeh, Bayern, Barca/Real, PSG and really weirdly Roma. 

 

There seems to be absolutely zero dynamism in who wins the leagues.

Bit disappointing to be honest. 

[bigmattb28]

4 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:

A few 100 years in the future videos coming out now and I thought the new club vision feature would lead to more dynamism in clubs/league success. In previous versions I've seen Liverpool fall out of the football league before. 

This year its just the big clubs dominating their respective leagues. Citeh, Bayern, Barca/Real, PSG and really weirdly Roma. 

 

There seems to be absolutely zero dynamism in who wins the leagues.

Bit disappointing to be honest. 

That'll be down to things like what leagues were loaded as playable and view only. If not many are playable, then only the higher rep teams are going to get results and big transfers. I saw a future save on FM19 and England was playable and Stoke became the power house of English football. Just because 1 streamer or 1 person has uploaded a save where 1 or 2 teams dominate, doesn't mean everyone's save is going to be like that.

[HUNT3R]

8 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:

A few 100 years in the future videos coming out now and I thought the new club vision feature would lead to more dynamism in clubs/league success. In previous versions I've seen Liverpool fall out of the football league before. 

This year its just the big clubs dominating their respective leagues. Citeh, Bayern, Barca/Real, PSG and really weirdly Roma. 

 

There seems to be absolutely zero dynamism in who wins the leagues.

Bit disappointing to be honest. 

 

1 minute ago, bigmattb28 said:

That'll be down to things like what leagues were loaded as playable and view only. If not many are playable, then only the higher rep teams are going to get results and big transfers. I saw a future save on FM19 and England was playable and Stoke became the power house of English football. Just because 1 streamer or 1 person has uploaded a save where 1 or 2 teams dominate, doesn't mean everyone's save is going to be like that.

Not only that, but also whether the matches themselves are set to full detail or not.

[glosoli]

1 hour ago, Mr_Demus said:

I might be blind, but I can't seem to find the option of me, the manager, handling contract extensions in my youth teams.

 

A note on that, I may be blind as well, but I also find the new responsibilities screen to be kind of cluttered and hard to navigate.

Staff - Responsibilities - Transfers and Contracts - Contracts

[heyhowie]

Any word if there'll be an ME update/patch for the weekend? 

[Bakiano]

How is Inter doing in your saves, in active leagues?

[pats]

1 hour ago, kiwityke1983 said:

A few 100 years in the future videos coming out now and I thought the new club vision feature would lead to more dynamism in clubs/league success. In previous versions I've seen Liverpool fall out of the football league before. 

This year its just the big clubs dominating their respective leagues. Citeh, Bayern, Barca/Real, PSG and really weirdly Roma. 

 

There seems to be absolutely zero dynamism in who wins the leagues.

Bit disappointing to be honest. 

I'm sorry but Roma is a big club in real life. They are just underachieving like Man United and many other big clubs. They can explode any time in near future in real life.

[Mons]

7 minutes ago, pats said:

I'm sorry but Roma is a big club in real life. They are just underachieving like Man United and many other big clubs. They can explode any time in near future in real life.

Comparing Roma to Man Utd is ludicrous. If it was Milan, I'd agree, but Roma have never been able to have a sustained period of success. They've been threatening to "explode" for ages and it's been a damp squib most of the time.

[redders1977]

Not sure if the hotfix improved performance or not, it's not as smooth as it should be as I can run GTA V at high/ultra settings

If they can iron that out, plus long side to side passes, the one on ones, players not passing even when it's a tight angle, and of course not passing when they've got a team mate on for a tap in, then I reckon they've done a pretty good job

Still not sure why the long passes weren't seen before beta was released

Edited November 8, 2019 by redders1977

[kiwityke1983]

2 hours ago, bigmattb28 said:

That'll be down to things like what leagues were loaded as playable and view only. If not many are playable, then only the higher rep teams are going to get results and big transfers. I saw a future save on FM19 and England was playable and Stoke became the power house of English football. Just because 1 streamer or 1 person has uploaded a save where 1 or 2 teams dominate, doesn't mean everyone's save is going to be like that.

It's been a number of them. I've seen 3 so far and it's all just been utter domination by the big clubs. 

[kiwityke1983]

1 hour ago, Mons said:

Comparing Roma to Man Utd is ludicrous. If it was Milan, I'd agree, but Roma have never been able to have a sustained period of success. They've been threatening to "explode" for ages and it's been a damp squib most of the time.

Roma have won won serie A 3 times EVER! 

They really aren't such a massive club that I'd expect to win 60 out of the next 100 serie A titles. 

[Mons]

Just now, kiwityke1983 said:

Roma have won won serie A 3 times EVER! 

They really aren't such a massive club that I'd expect to win 60 out of the next 100 serie A titles. 

That's exactly my point and what I was trying to tell to the user who said that Roma is a big club underachieving like Man Utd, which is definitely not the case imo.

[pats]

1 hour ago, Mons said:

Comparing Roma to Man Utd is ludicrous. If it was Milan, I'd agree, but Roma have never been able to have a sustained period of success. They've been threatening to "explode" for ages and it's been a damp squib most of the time.

I never compared Man United and Roma. I just said Roma are a big club and are underachieving as are Man United. Achievement can mean different for both clubs. Winning a single title in 3 years can be described as an underachievement for Man United but can be described as achievement for Roma.

And just because Roma hasn't had a sustained period of success in the past doesn't mean they can't do it in the future. The way they are spending money every year can bring them sustained success soon if they find a decent manager. But that's just my opinion and I don't support them IRL.

And talking about big clubs, Chelsea didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich era. They created the history. So any club in future can do the same in real life as well as in FM, which is my point.

Edited November 8, 2019 by pats

[kiwityke1983]

1 minute ago, Mons said:

That's exactly my point and what I was trying to tell to the user who said that Roma is a big club underachieving like Man Utd, which is definitely not the case imo.

Exactly. Man Utd are legitimately one of the biggest clubs in England if not world football. 

Roma are about 4th or 5th biggest in Italy.

[Mons]

1 minute ago, kiwityke1983 said:

Exactly. Man Utd are legitimately one of the biggest clubs in England if not world football. 

Roma are about 4th or 5th biggest in Italy.

@pats, I don't think this is an unfair assessment at all. There's been nothing in Roma's real-life history to indicate they could dominate Italian football in the next century as kiwityke1983 seems to have experienced. It's not inconceivable it could happen if there's a perfect storm, of course, but it would certainly be much more unexpected than if Milan, Inter or Juve did it.

[Fritz13]

Loving this so far.

have had 2 crashes both during matches - should I be looking at graphics setup?

[Johnny Ace]

23 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:

It's been a number of them. I've seen 3 so far and it's all just been utter domination by the big clubs. 

Bristol City were a top dog in one I watched, won the PL, Champs League, FA Cups a bunch of times 

[kiwityke1983]

2 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said:

Bristol City were a top dog in one I watched, won the PL, Champs League, FA Cups a bunch of times 

They had a tycoon takeover and did a Citeh, IE buying success.

It was about the only interesting thing to happen. In prior seasons big clubs have had massive collapses etc. 

[Johnny Ace]

23 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:

They had a tycoon takeover and did a Citeh, IE buying success.

It was about the only interesting thing to happen. In prior seasons big clubs have had massive collapses etc. 

Liverpool were a mid-table Championship team too, but even now, realistically there are two teams likely to win the PL. The other contenders have spent hundreds of millions on their squads. Man U have & they're not even contenders so I can't see anyone winning the top league outside of those for the next 10 years     

Edited November 8, 2019 by Johnny Ace

[duesouth]

I've now played until February in my Dalum (Danish 2nd division) save, so thought I would leave my feedback.

First thing, I've enjoyed being one of many "testers" and was actually pleased to notice some things and report them!  This is a large community, and it's a great tool to help make the game better.

User Interface

Someone a lot earlier in the thread used the word "slicker" and I would say that's perfect to describe the improvement from FM19.

I particularly like the change to the "Suggest Transfer Targets" from your Director of Football screen.

I like the different views on the squad screen - I know you can customise them, but it feels like you don't have to as much now.

The only negative for me is you can't access your reserves/B team and U19 team in one click from the top/home screen - I have a very thin squad, so it hasn't bugged me much - but I think it will when I have a bigger squad.

Speed of Game

I don't have a great PC, but I haven't noticed any lag - and indeed I would say it might be a touch quicker than FM19, although I have less leagues loaded in this save I guess.  The only thing I've noticed is when watching highlights, the mouse/cursor can be slow to vanish, so often there are two balls on the pitch!  No big deal - I just have to get used to ensuring the cursor is in the top bar.

Match Graphics

The wear/marks on the pitch didn't look great on my PC - not sure if they were removed in the hot fix as I haven't seen them despite playing some games in the rain the last two nights (I wasn't in the rain - the team was!).  It took me a short time to get used to the difference between FM19 and 20 - but I think they are better, do the job and indeed, I do like how SI understand many of us don't have gaming PC's and don't make it out of reach for the likes of me.

I like the improved shadows - they look sharper/more realistic.

I raised a bug report as I had a floodlight pylon blocking my view of the goal at a couple of grounds.

New Features

I really like the club vision.  Does it force you to play differently depending on who you manage?  Yes.  I know some don't like that - but for me I see it as being an added challenge in that you can try a club/vision that will make you play differently than usual and it will add longevity to the game.  I found when unemployed, it made me think about whether or not to apply for certain jobs.

I reported an incompatible target - sign players to sell for a profit - but can't as we are an amateur team - but as long as the multitude of eyes on these have made sure in the beta these kinds of thing are realistic and not likely to contribute to you getting fired - then all good.  I do think the grades on the "report card" from the board are a bit harsh though.

I haven't used the development centre much yet as I had 5 players in my B team and no one in my U19's - so I've just seen the report on the potential intake.  This was timed really well before the transfer window - I was thinking about signing a centre midfielder, but saw a great prospect is coming through, so held off.  This is going to be really useful to me.

I really like the extra categories for squad definition - fringe player, impact sub and emergency backup are much clearer and so far I've not had any players unhappy with playing time.  I think if I do moving forward, it will be because of my poor forward planning.  I signed 3 players last night and made sure I knocked them down in terms of the squad status I was offering to avoid problems (and was still able to sign them) - as long as you do this, I think it will really help to avoid unhappy players.

My first save in FM19 was with the same team - and I'm pretty sure I lost players (all on amateur contracts) outside of the transfer window.  This year, they've only gone in the transfer window (4 of them in the winter window - my top scorer and best centre half among them - ouch!) - so that's an improvement and hopefully might mean I can push for a promotion (I did say might - don't want to jinx myself!).

Match Engine

I've not seen any weird or odd results.  Perhaps the AI has been slightly slower to react to my early season success - and maybe the game feels a bit easier - but then I'm a better player than I was when I picked up FM19 (first FM, jumping from CM03/04).  I blame Rashidi et al...

In terms of the 1 on 1's - are there too many?  Yes.  Have I scored some?  Yes (scored last night when the keeper came out of the box, didn't get there and my striker took it round him and put it into the empty net; scored last night with a chip over the keeper; scored last night to the far post with the keeper wrong footed).  It bugged me more early in the save, perhaps I've got used to them.  However, I play with 2 up front and want my strikers to be my top scorers and they are.  My DLF(Su) is my top scorer and he feels more involved as a goal scoring threat than in FM19.

I've scored some really nice goals with some nice forward interplay though - and I can only imagine that will be better if I manage at a higher level.

In the graphical representation of the match engine, it looks like defenders are really slow to turn and run - and can more often than not ball watch, before slowly turning and running back - but then I'm a Southampton fan and Yannik Vestergaard does that in real life...

Even when I use my last 5 minutes "park the bus" formation - defenders will go long too often and don't obey instructions.  I would say a DLP just in front of the back four helped, although I don't have a player particularly suited to that role at this level.

I would say the number of long balls and then offside/disallowed goals are too high (I've had 3 or 4 in one game).  Suggestion: As the offside flag won't go up until the striker touches the ball - and you can't always see the Asst Ref on long balls - perhaps an offside flag/icon could appear on screen so you don't run around the room with your shirt over your head, only to return to your chair and see it's been chalked off?  I have no problem with these things happening in a game - but perhaps less should appear in extended highlights?  I did see one in commentary last night and perhaps more belong there.

I would say even with "Run at defense" selected, my wide players (4-4-2/4-1-3-2) - Winger (Su) and Inverted Winger (Su)) don't dribble as much as FM19.  My inverted winger has a decent average rating, but I would say he's not someone who ever seems to stand out in extended highlights.  My winger often has space to run into, but will check back too often.  If you were playing narrow in FM19, these roles would still hug the touchline - but it feels like they obey the TI more in FM20.  Typing this out, I perhaps need to try playing wider as a TI to see if that improves things.

I haven't seen quite as many long shots go in as others - those that I have I would say seem to be farther out than in FM19.  From 25 yards rather than 18-20 yards.  Having said that, my right back scored two in consecutive games last night.  However, if I sit and watch the Quest EFL highlights on a weekend, I don't know that it's too many compared to real life - perhaps a touch.  It might be me, but it feels like although I'm still playing with a standard defensive line and lower line of engagement, the team is obeying the TI and are better in terms of vertical compactness.  I've seen my central defenders come out to help with this, not sure they did in FM19.

I haven't seen as many direct free kicks - but those that I have, hitting the top of the bar seems too common still.  I'm not sure I've scored from a throw in - I might have to give that a bit more thought I guess, but felt like there were too many in FM19 (linked to the inverted winger not standing out as much as FM19 I guess, as he scored a lot of them), so not a bad thing.

Overall

Obviously the match engine attracts the most comments - but with a little tweak for the full release, I think this is going to be good.  I can only begin to imagine how complex this is - but I have a vague understanding if you change one thing it will be a domino effect, so hats off to the ME/coding team!

I really like the new features and it does feel like a step forward that is very much enough to make me feel it was worth buying the game.

Be it CM or now FM - for me the game has the ability to suck me in.  Last night one of the players I picked up as a free agent before the season got called up by his U21 team - and I was pleased for this artificial player.  I love building a team and feel the tools I've been given this year help me to do this.

Would I recommend FM20 to FM19 (or older) players who are on the fence?  Yes.

Will I play this for many, many hours and get amazing value for money?  Yes.

Do I regret taking a leap of faith and pre-ordering weeks ago?  No.

Does my wife?  Probably, although I haven't spoken to her much recently

To SI, I say "thank you" for all your hard work and for a great product.  I can't think that many companies would engage with their customers as much as you do.  I'm sure your patience is tested with some comments, but there are so many of us who really appreciate your hard work.  Looking at the amount of bugs reported, I can only imagine the hours you are all working right now - but I see your unending drive to produce a top product in the step from FM19 to FM20.

[Mr U Rosler]

1 hour ago, redders1977 said:

 

If they can iron that out, plus long side to side passes, the one on ones, players not passing even when it's a tight angle, and of course not passing when they've got a team mate on for a tap in, then I reckon they've done a pretty good job

 

Players shooting from a tight angle when they can pass to a team mate for a tap in is fairly common place IRL. 

Just watch Gabriel Jesus and Mo Salah for a few games 

[Mayzie]

Is there a way for me to be able to pin U23 & U18 squads to the left hand taskbar without taking control of general training for them?  Also, is it possible to alter who is responsible for what training, i.e. Attacking Technical, Quickness, etc.  I don't want to have to have full control of these squads but without doing so, it's impossible to see which coaches are utter **** and which are worth keeping.

[Scotty Walds]

2 minutes ago, Mayzie said:

Is there a way for me to be able to pin U23 & U18 squads to the left hand taskbar without taking control of general training for them?  Also, is it possible to alter who is responsible for what training, i.e. Attacking Technical, Quickness, etc.  I don't want to have to have full control of these squads but without doing so, it's impossible to see which coaches are utter **** and which are worth keeping.

Individual training should do it too. Otherwise, you can right click on Dev Centre on the sidebar and then go U23 > Squad, or U18 > Squad.

[Mr_Demus]

How do you take screenshots now? Seems to have changed from FM19

[Nick Habershon]

9 minutes ago, Mr_Demus said:

How do you take screenshots now? Seems to have changed from FM19

Alt+s

For full list of keyboard shortcuts, go to Preferences -> Advanced -> Shortcuts

[sureup]

All i hope for is a patch today which fixes the Norwegian leagues so I can finally get my FM fix again

[daylight]

On 07/11/2019 at 09:45, RiverReveal666 said:

 

Idea: During the beta and even in the main game have an ingame bug report feature. A match has been played, something considered a bug has been spotted, there is a little bug report icon on the post match screen. Dialouge box enabling user to explain the issue and add time stamps, press send and a PKM has been sent to the same dev team that will be looking through the bug report thread. Personally I would make use of that process and find it more intuitive than the current process. 

Just an idea, but after reading through this thread I do sympathise with people who are leaving feedback and then being told its not enough. 

This has been suggested years ago but never added to the game, I remember a lot of years ago I asked for it to be added as a lot of games actually have it during a beta.
MMO games have it all the time so you can report a bug as soon as you see one.

No idea why it's never been added to FM, as you say, a lot of players are put off with having to upload saves etc.

I remember the old Steam forums, players would come on there to report bugs and if anyone from SI stopped by, which wasn't very often, they would get told to make an account here and upload the save, I doubt many if any did that.

[kingking]

scouting is very weak in this game even for top teams like real madrid, barcelona, man city

there are many players that fit my scouting requirements that don't get scouted by my staff

[kiwityke1983]

1 hour ago, Johnny Ace said:

Liverpool were a mid-table Championship team too, but even now, realistically there are two teams likely to win the PL. The other contenders have spent hundreds of millions on their squads. Man U have & they're not even contenders so I can't see anyone winning the top league outside of those for the next 10 years     

Liverpool completely disappeared out of the playable leagues on one FM19 100 years into the future. 

I was just surprised that even after 100 years about 90 of the 100 titles had been won by Barca or Real and the other 10 by Atletico. There's was far more variation in FM19 when people did these kind of experiments. 

[warlock]

36 minutes ago, daylight said:

This has been suggested years ago but never added to the game

[pats]

5 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:

Liverpool completely disappeared out of the playable leagues on one FM19 100 years into the future. 

I was just surprised that even after 100 years about 90 of the 100 titles had been won by Barca or Real and the other 10 by Atletico. There's was far more variation in FM19 when people did these kind of experiments. 

I know it can be off-putting for some (not enough variation in title wins 100 years into the future), but I personally see it as a challenge. I can for example takeover a club like Real Betis which has a big fanbase and has a huge potential and try to knock Real and Barca off their perch.

[daylight]

8 minutes ago, warlock said:

I haven't played FM for a few years, just when I seen the other poster ask for the feature I took it it was never added, I knew it wasn't in the game when I played it.

[dangngo6]

i think i need to stop play this beta, cant play my control possesion football, just long ball foward, switch flank no matter the instructions. Opponent just blast the ball 50 yard and whala, my DC just moon walk and let their striker run foward and have a clear cut chance. 

[kiwityke1983]

3 minutes ago, dangngo6 said:

i think i need to stop play this beta, cant play my control possesion football, just long ball foward, switch flank no matter the instructions. Opponent just blast the ball 50 yard and whala, my DC just moon walk and let their striker run foward and have a clear cut chance. 

It's literally your tactics.

 

I've just smashed the championship in the 2nd season playing a possession based tactic as Barnsley. Scored 90 odd goals already with 5 games to go. 

[dangngo6]

1 minute ago, kiwityke1983 said:

It's literally your tactics.

 

I've just smashed the championship in the 2nd season playing a possession based tactic as Barnsley. Scored 90 odd goals already with 5 games to go. 

yeah right, my tactic again... when i said playing control posseision, short pass, play out of defense, lower tempo my DC ( set to less risk, short pass) have the ball, and literally IN FRONT OF HIM IS A TEAMMATE, no he blast the ball 50 yards forward. For more info, he have zero traits
so yeah it is my tactic i guess

[Johnny Ace]

1 minute ago, dangngo6 said:

yeah right, my tactic again... when i said playing control posseision, short pass, play out of defense, lower tempo my DC ( set to less risk, short pass) have the ball, and literally IN FRONT OF HIM IS A TEAMMATE, no he blast the ball 50 yards forward. For more info, he have zero traits
so yeah it is my tactic i guess

I think you need a deep breath  This is the beta, the ME has bugs, wait until the game's release date then see how it goes 

[styluz05]

I'm currently Playing  with Hacken in Sweden but just seen AI have sacked Klopp.. Liverpool are 2nd and into Final of CL. Anyone else seen unrealistic sackings of AI managers? Newcastle just sacked Bruce too and they are sitting 12th!

Also to add I'm being offered Premiership jobs and Ive only got one season with Hacken finished 4th and Tottenham and Newcastle have both offered me a interview, slightly unrealistic. 

Edited November 8, 2019 by styluz05

[Novem9]

1 минуту назад, styluz05 сказал:

I'm currently Playing  with Hacken in Sweden but just seen AI have sacked Klopp.. Liverpool are 2nd and into Final of CL. Anyone else seen unrealistic sackings of AI managers? Newcastle just sacked Bruce too and they are sitting 12th!

It will be really helpful if you share your save in SI cloud and raise thread in beta forum. Especially if you have save before Klopp was sacked 

[styluz05]

Just now, Novem9 said:

It will be really helpful if you share your save in SI cloud and raise thread in beta forum. Especially if you have save before Klopp was sacked 

Without being stupid... "Report Bug" easy just clicking on that?

[metallimuse]

3 season's in with only the Scottish leagues loaded and I'm having HUGE difficulty selling my unwanted players. Nobody wants them even at knock down prices, never encountered this before.

Evan a star player valued at £9.5m who wants away, offered him out and not one interested party.

Can't be right surely?

[pats]

6 minutes ago, styluz05 said:

I'm currently Playing  with Hacken in Sweden but just seen AI have sacked Klopp.. Liverpool are 2nd and into Final of CL. Anyone else seen unrealistic sackings of AI managers?

That's harsh. Liverpool will not sack Klopp for that kind of results IRL.

But then asking for 'owner AI' is too much at this stage I guess.

Edited November 8, 2019 by pats

[kiwityke1983]

13 minutes ago, dangngo6 said:

yeah right, my tactic again... when i said playing control posseision, short pass, play out of defense, lower tempo my DC ( set to less risk, short pass) have the ball, and literally IN FRONT OF HIM IS A TEAMMATE, no he blast the ball 50 yards forward. For more info, he have zero traits
so yeah it is my tactic i guess

 That's all well and good but if he's incapable of actually playing that style of football then yes he might well just blast it forward. 

Edited November 8, 2019 by kiwityke1983