kris0710 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Is there an additional standby list in addition to the 26? I would be very surprised if there aren't a couple of defenders and maybe the likes of Defoe that haven't been told they are next in line should something happen. Last thing we need is people living it up in Las Vegas then getting a call up next week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Guess at a standby list: Ben Foster Phil Jagielka Leighton Baines Mark Noble Theo Walcott Jermain Defoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Townsend excelling in a poor side/system doesn't mean he deserves to be in the England set up. Same way playing for a top team does not mean you deserve to be in as well. Townsend has had some good games for England of note as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_84 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 England always do reasonably well when there's a Newcastle player in the squad as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just updating my England squad on Pro. Dele Alli's real name is aparently BAMIDELE!! :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Don't get why people seem baffled by Townsend's inclusion and I don't even like the guy. He's been in good form, offers something different to (what you'd expect to be) the starting 11, and there aren't exactly many English wingers excelling atm. No issue with him being a squad member. that would be a valid point if he didnt then go and pick rooney, hendo, wilshere, stones, delph, sterling and barkley... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 that would be a valid point if he didnt then go and pick rooney, hendo, wilshere, stones, delph, sterling and barkley... Who would you pick instead? There's a valid argument for Noble I'll grant that, but who else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 noble should be in that squad ahead of delph/henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
given1legend Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Townsend deserves to go. Didn't want us to sign him but he's been brilliant. He's got his flaws but as an impact sub there is nobody better except maybe Andy Carroll. If we're playing a diamond and after 55 minutes it hasn't worked, bring on a wide man like Townsend and it gives the opposition something different to think about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Who would you pick instead? There's a valid argument for Noble I'll grant that, but who else? yeah we dont have a ton of quality to choose from but antonio and cresswell have been criminally overlooked imo along with noble ofc. defoe? even deeney... the problem is, he was gonna bring all those ive listed regardless of form anyway except maybe delph, so one token player in form doesnt cut it with me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 People not picking rooney in their starting xi I agree 100% with it but Roy isn't going to drop captain fantastic is he. We may as well build our starting xi's around him because that's what Roy is doing. I would have taken Defoe and Welbeck (is Welbeck fit?) instead of Sturridge and Lallana. ahead of Sturridge. :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Is there an additional standby list in addition to the 26? If there is it's in Hodgson's mind onlyI think they did away with this kind of thing after too much sulking of being on or not on the list But there's only seven defenders in there and no fourth keeper. Surely a couple of them have been tipped off on the quiet in case of an injury in the friendlies - don't go off on holiday just yet or hit the kebabs too hard, just in case we need you etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I think the knowledge of being on 'stand by' was too much for the fragile egos of some players. 'Whaaaaaat, I'm not good enough for the squad but I have to be on stand by'. Maybe on a case by case basis some may know, like Ben Foster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Like Michael Carrick, who thankfully is nowhere near the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 3 centre backs though, risky, especially the way they hand out yellow cards these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Dier will cover if needed. I was thinking about that and couldnt actually think of anyone other than those three we could put in? Who do Southampton and West Ham use? Van Dijk--Jose Fonte, Reid--Ogbonna? West Brom were quite good defensively but would anyone have called up Craig Dawson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 How many midfield and attacking options do you need? I'd have taken 4 CBs personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
git2thachoppa Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hows about my England squad? Considering the inexperienced players would've had more experience under myself: GK: Hart, Forster, Heaton DF: Walker, Rose, Jagielka, Smalling, Francis, Cahill MF: Milner, Dier, Drinkwater, Noble, Barkley, Dele Alli, Townsend, Antonio FW: Defoe, Sturridge, Kane, Vardy, Rashford, Deeney Standby: Tomkins, Adam Smith, Bertrand, Barry, Henderson, Albrighton, Stanislas, Lallana, Rooney, Carroll --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis and Smalling can cover the full backs, Antonio is a shoe-in but it helps that he can also cover right-back. I've had concerns about choosing one proper left-back, but England have NEVER changed left-back since at least 1992 (I gave up after looking back 20 years), and when they sub him off (rarely), it's to bring on a non-left-back, even a midfielder or striker. The problem there are so many good and in-form players that this time around I don't think I would want to 'waste' a spot on a couple of defenders who'll never play. England are blessed with unassuming central midfielders and in-form strikers, it's so hard to drop a few. So part of Deeney's appeal, other than form, is he can play in attacking midfield and he's a big assister. I can't drop Rashford, bring him while he's hot and an unknown to foreigners. Defoe brings the experience and mature head, but the goals Rooney doesn't have. A great mix of youth and naivety mixed with experience and maturity in every position. Meanwhile, Roy starts every friendly with Hart and Rooney... and what does Tomkins have to do to get even a look in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Dier will cover if needed. I was thinking about that and couldnt actually think of anyone other than those three we could put in? Who do Southampton and West Ham use? Van Dijk--Jose Fonte, Reid--Ogbonna?West Brom were quite good defensively but would anyone have called up Craig Dawson? Shawcross would've been your obvious answer but Hogdson don't like him. Craig Dawson also has played rightback a lot this season instead of his preferred centerback, and England have plenty of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Anyone know if the Liverpool players are excused from Sunday's friendly because of the Europa League final? Obviously the Man Utd players will be joining up late because of the FA Cup, if the Liverpool players are missing as well we've only got 18 out of 26 available. Not sure what value there is in a warmup game with maybe up to half of the likely starting eleven missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
git2thachoppa Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Anyone know if the Liverpool players are excused from Sunday's friendly because of the Europa League final?Obviously the Man Utd players will be joining up late because of the FA Cup, if the Liverpool players are missing as well we've only got 18 out of 26 available. Not sure what value there is in a warmup game with maybe up to half of the likely starting eleven missing. Warm-up games should be for looking at the maybes, either who hasn't got a starting 11 place for sure or who might or might not get in the squad. But then again, friendlies are supposed to be about trying new players and tactics, but Roy still plays Hart and Rooney in every sodding one. I think they've got enough 'experience' by now, Roy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Expecting Wilshere, Sturrige and Henderson to all pick up injuries before the May 31 deadline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Like Michael Carrick' date=' who thankfully is nowhere near the squad[/quote']He's pretty much only been in recently because we haven't had much in the way of midfielders that can play in the holding role. Now Dier and Drinkwater have broken out and they are much more useful to have than Carrick, who while experienced, hasn't been at his best for the past couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orikoru Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Vardy/Kane/Alli all have to start in my opinion, make it work Woy. Vardy - Kane RooneyWilshere --- AlliDierRose - Cahill - Smalling - WalkerHart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Sterling, Barkley or Lallana for Fatty. Would be interested to know how often a 4th CB has actually been needed in tournament football, almost never probably and given the choice I'd rather Dier there than Jagielka anyway with Drinkwater moving into DM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orikoru Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Sterling, Barkley or Lallana for Fatty.Would be interested to know how often a 4th CB has actually been needed in tournament football, almost never probably and given the choice I'd rather Dier there than Jagielka anyway with Drinkwater moving into DM. They mentioned it on Football 365, the 4th choice CB almost never gets any minutes. Think he's sacrificed Jagielka to have two strong full backs on each side, which I hope means he's using the diamond formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 How is Tom Heaton the oldest goalkeeper ffs? In my head he's still The Next Big Thing at Man Utd, out on loan at Burnley. Wiki tells me he's THIRTY and actually left Man Utd in 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Sterling, Barkley or Lallana for Fatty.Would be interested to know how often a 4th CB has actually been needed in tournament football, almost never probably and given the choice I'd rather Dier there than Jagielka anyway with Drinkwater moving into DM. Barzagli played the full game vs. Ukraine in 2006. Nesta was injured, Materazzi suspended Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 How is Tom Heaton the oldest goalkeeper ffs? In my head he's still The Next Big Thing at Man Utd, out on loan at Burnley. Wiki tells me he's THIRTY and actually left Man Utd in 2010 I really want him to play in one of the warmup games. He deserves at least one cap considering how many callups he's had. Plus imagine if England actually did win the Euros, he'd be the first player to win a medal without ever playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I really want him to play in one of the warmup games. He deserves at least one cap considering how many callups he's had. Plus imagine if England actually did win the Euros, he'd be the first player to win a medal without ever playing. Surely that goes to Andres Palop? He has more medals for Spain than he does caps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Surely that goes to Andres Palop? He has more medals for Spain than he does caps. Huh didn't know about him. I'd still prefer it if Heaton got a small runout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
git2thachoppa Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 BBC did a sort-of poll by asking people to submit their XI. 500,000 people did it in 24 hours, and here's the results: ----------------Hart----------------- Clyne-----Cahill-----Smalling-----Rose ---------Drinkwater---Dier------------ Rooney-------------------------Delle Alli -----------Kane-----Vardy--------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 How is Tom Heaton the oldest goalkeeper ffs? In my head he's still The Next Big Thing at Man Utd, out on loan at Burnley. Wiki tells me he's THIRTY and actually left Man Utd in 2010 Whaaaat?? I was under the impression he was 'for the future' too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Glad it's not just me, i honestly thought he was still knocking about with the under 21s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
git2thachoppa Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I was sure I looked up Heaton a few days ago and he was young. In that case Pickford should've gone. Same league, played just as well, but he's 22 or something, and he's played regularly in every level of England from U16 to U21. Now's his time to experience a bigger competition, he could be the future for all we know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsgold Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The blinding-ness of the Premier League Heaton has been Burnley's number 1 for a good few years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypaul Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 He's the 3rd choice keeper, it doesn't matter that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Technically he's 4th choice but the current "next big thing", Jack Butland, is injured. Just give Heaton 5 minutes at the end of one of the warmup games. He's earned it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Always remember Ian Walker getting an unlikely recall as our third choice keeper for Euro 2004 and he got chucked on for one of the warmup friendlies about 7 years after he had last played for England. I think this is still a record for the longest gap between England caps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Nope that's Ian Callaghan. no appearances between 20 July 1966 (a 2-0 win vs France) and 7 September 1977 (when he returned to the side for a goalless draw with Switzerland). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Right you are. #impressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I'll C+P my post from the League Two thread as some of you have been to England games.... If I do decide to go the playoff final how do you get from Paddington to Wembley and where to stay overnight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I'll C+P my post from the League Two thread as some of you have been to England games....If I do decide to go the playoff final how do you get from Paddington to Wembley and where to stay overnight? Met line from Paddington to Wembley Parkis easiest. Quickest is probably Paddington to Baker Street then jump on the fast tube to Wembly Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Er, Paddington's not on the Met line [/pedant] Bakerloo from Paddington to Wembley Central if you want a direct train, or you can change at Baker Street for a train to Wembley Park which is a slightly shorter walk down to the stadium. That said, assuming the PO Final is on Bank Holiday Monday I would check the TFL website for any planned engineering works. They have a habit of scheduling them in to clash with Wembley games if it's "only" a lower league playoff final or the Johnstone's Paint or FA Trophy or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Er, Paddington's not on the Met line [/pedant] Valid point The amount of times I go to Wembley I'm clearly on auto pilot these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Ye, the Bakerloo line at Paddington is closed until August. Its saying go to Edgeware Road, get on a train to Highbury, then hop to a train to some junction beginning with W, then hop again to the Wembley train. **** that stress I'll watch it on TV But to Wembley Stadium station its Edgware to Marylebone to Wembley Stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Ye, the Bakerloo line at Paddington is closed until August. Its saying go to Edgeware Road, get on a train to Highbury, then hop to a train to some junction beginning with W, then hop again to the Wembley train. **** that stress I'll watch it on TV Hammersmith or Circle line to Baker Street then Met line should work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Yeh thats surely the easiest way. Circle line or Hammersmith and City line eastbound to Baker Street. Change for Metropolitan line to Wembley Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 That works It was me being an idiot and putting in Wembley Central instead of Wembley Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 What time's KO for the L2 Playoff Final? Seriously considering coming down as a neutral if I can pick a ticket up on the day. Absolutely starved of live football atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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