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One of the best new screens in the game is the overview screen in your youth teams section. Particularly when you have the 'development' tab selected. You can now see at a glance a snapshot of how your young players are progressing compared to the others. All this information was there before but it could be laborious clicking through each player, especially if you had large youth squads. All these little things are making this the most immersive version of the game ever. If they get the issue with Nvidia sorted, and tweaks to the long shots/crossfield balls in the ME, this will knock all other FM's out of the park. 

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33 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

I have now gone into the Nvidia control panel and switched the output to the integrated graphics card and it's a lot smoother with little (if any) reduction in graphic quality. I guess SI and Nvidia will never be best buddies. 

Dave - I had this issue both last year and for FM18 on my ACER laptop with an NVIDIA GPU. I resolved it with help from @Neil Brock by changing something in the GPU power management settings (I can't recall what exactly sorry).

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Does anyone know if this was one of the Brexit outcomes from FM19, or has it changed?

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Genuine question also - Have SI taken advice / guidance from specialists on what may happen in the world of football post Brexit, or is this just their 'take' on it?

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1 minute ago, rdbayly said:

Does anyone know if this was one of the Brexit outcomes from FM19, or has it changed?

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Genuine question also - Have SI taken advice / guidance from specialists on what may happen in the world of football post Brexit, or is this just their 'take' on it?

As no one knows what will happen with Brexit as it hasnt happened or been decided what it is no one can make an accurate decision.

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Just now, Dagenham_Dave said:

I'm getting the impression it's laptop users who are most affected. 

Well some of the cards mentioned as having issues have better specs than mine does which says it isn't just as simple as all Nvidia cards being an issue.

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5 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

I'm getting the impression it's laptop users who are most affected. 

Laptops can have much more variables also for issues, regarding power management, using which card etc. Laptops are more setting sensitive.

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15 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

I'm getting the impression it's laptop users who are most affected. 

I think it's down to HW-drivers or something. I have a bit older GTX960M (in a MSI GE72 6QC Apache which were quite good for a gaming laptop....5 years ago), and I don't have any issues. I'm running 441.08 driver. I've seen users with both newer and older have issues. Have you toyed around with different drivers to see if have any impacts? Looking at usage on my end, I see quite a lot GPU usage, but only at about 35-45%.

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1 minute ago, XaW said:

I think it's down to HW-drivers or something. I have a bit older GTX960M (in a MSI GE72 6QC Apache which were quite good for a gaming laptop....5 years ago), and I don't have any issues. I'm running 441.08 driver. I've seen users with both newer and older have issues. Have you toyed around with different drivers to see if have any impacts? Looking at usage on my end, I see quite a lot GPU usage, but only at about 35-45%.

It's the 441.08 driver I was using. To be honest, because the graphics aren't top end on FM, my integrated graphics card is doing a good enough job with it for now. 

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I would still recommend new full install. Nothing happens with your save. Just in documents delete cong files that remember saved settings. See that correct card is activated when playing FM.

It is possibility that beta updated messed something up.

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43 minutes ago, Novem9 said:

Possibly if AI scored the same it will be talks about poor marking in DM zone :D 

Possibly. :D  Btw, that is / should be a much more challenging finish for the keeper than in a classic one on one, as the ball from such a crossfield ball changes direction in an instant with the first touch. Naturally, it should be reasonably difficult to pull off / get on target first touch in the first place.

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All this talk about one on ones man.

Battling relegation, sit 8pts clear of the bottom two with 8 games left but I face Celtic while those below me all play each other.

1-0 up with 3 minutes left.

Tell me how the game ended...

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5 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

All this talk about one on ones man.

It's the same ever sinec FM 1899 innit? :D Given that, SI should have have Long set up specific testing drills, if possible.

 

edit: Game ended 1-4. The AI figured there wasn't much left on the Clock. That it was 0-1 behind. That a 0-1 against such a Relegation battler Managing Celtic just wasn't an acceptable result. Then it went overload with loads of attack duties, and eventually scored two from range, a direct free kick and a Penalty. :brock:

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53 minutes ago, SortitoutsiVP said:

:brock:

 

The goal looks good but opponent defending is strange.  At 0.5 mark midfielder and FB decide to switch places, why? This lets the opponent FB or winger to come and get clean pass and go for cross. Why would ever FB breake the line like that and run into middle...

 

More often I dont understand why defenders go and do double team and get stuck on each other leaving huge caps behind.

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Hello fellow FM nerds, it's been a long time since I posted here. Good to be back and I've enjoyed following the forum over the last few days. 

Loving the beta so far. Looking forward to the 19th. 

I'd just like to state my agreement with regards to comments about the crossfield passes and one on ones. Seems to me that my fullbacks are able to ping it touchline to touchline like Beckham in his prime, multiple times per match. And my striker is missing one on ones more frequently than Diego Forlan in those dark early days at Manchester United. My sample size is a relatively modest 10-15 games. Currently have two saves ongoing. Peterborough United and Manchester United. 

I'm also noticing that defenders seem very slow to react to long balls over the top, which is resulting in the majority of these missed 1v1 opportunities. 

Big thumbs up for the development centre and the addition of the loan manager role. 

I can't really comment on how the 3D mode looks as I don't use it, haven't for several years. I'm too much of a fan of the 2D view. 

And the manager hairstyles, not really a game breaker, but yeah, I literally laughed out loud when I saw them. 

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42 minutes ago, Svenc said:

It's the same ever sinec FM 1899 innit? :D Given that, SI should have have Long set up specific testing drills, if possible.

 

edit: Game ended 1-4. The AI figured there wasn't much left on the Clock. That it was 0-1 behind. That a 0-1 against such a Relegation battler Managing Celtic just wasn't an acceptable result. Then it went overload with loads of attack duties, and eventually scored two from range, a direct free kick and a Penalty. :brock:

Assistant tells me they've changed to attack down the wings. I set my full backs to defend, and wide men to support instead of attack, to try and combat it.

Two punts over my defence, two one on ones, two goals.

Typical of my FM luck that everyone is seeing them missed, yet my opponents are so clinical at such a point :lol:

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52 minutes ago, rdbayly said:

This.

Incredible feedback there mate.

 

I've now reinstalled the game, turned v sync off and followed the steps in the bug thread and 3d is still lagging. They did something with an update for 19 that sorted it out. Will just stick to 2d for now.

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4 minutes ago, bigmattb28 said:

Incredible feedback there mate.

 

I've now reinstalled the game, turned v sync off and followed the steps in the bug thread and 3d is still lagging. They did something with an update for 19 that sorted it out. Will just stick to 2d for now.

I know you're frustrated, but try not to take it out on other forum members.

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1 minute ago, bigmattb28 said:

Tried and still the same.

Very bizzard thing for some guys here. Shame that these things did not work, just sometimes the easiest and clearest things fix.

Hope SI fixes soon

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2 hours ago, SortitoutsiVP said:

:brock:

 

Don't know whats worse the fact that the cam passes back when he has ACRES of space in front of him/doesnt ball it the LW/LWB or the line missing from the gk's box :lol:

Defending is weird too as someone mentioned up there. FB has the wide player covered in line with the defence so why does he step out to then be covered by the CM? If the cm did his job then the DM spot would be covered. 

 

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4 minutes ago, GOODNAME said:

I woner if in the 19th there be ME changes 

Mos likely, they usually tweak it for official release. Last year they tweaked it and it turned out to a completely different experience in comparison to the beta ME gameplay. 

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4 minutes ago, BigV said:

Don't know whats worse the fact that the cam passes back when he has ACRES of space in front of him/doesnt ball it the LW/LWB or the line missing from the gk's box :lol:

Defending is weird too as someone mentioned up there. FB has the wide player covered in line with the defence so why does he step out to then be covered by the CM? If the cm did his job then the DM spot would be covered. 

 

It is very strange, additionally for the FB to break the line like that, look from start up top there is guy running straight back, stopping at nothing. Maybe that is full back that was out of position?

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49 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Two punts over my defence, two one on ones, two goals.

Fake News. :D  (My condolensces though.) I think it would be much more useful if Players would go through their Matches and note down the streaks of such misses/conversions over a longer period. And then, in a second step, Maybe make a distinction, as not every Chance like that should be equal opportunity. Assists through the middle for instance in tendency leave the Forward with much less time (and also may be played in his back to boot). From wider positions meanwhile the ball is more likely to be played in his running path. That's the more obvious differences I'd expect the ME to take into account, same as the pace of the Play.

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Okay this is getting frustrating, I appear to never be able to regain possesion through tackles whatsoever. Does anyone else have this problem? It's slowly sapping my fun away from this save. Could just be my choice of team however. I don't know.

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Given the beta a bit of a whirl after initially being put off by some of the database errors, & I must say I like it.

Was concerned about how fluid the match engine would run given some of the feedback thus far, but ran great during my first friendly. Ran on low quality with high render & it works just fine. Better than FM19 does for me currently, to be fair.

As far as what concurs during the matches, during a 5-2 victory in my opening friendly I had 40 shots with 17 on target, which I thought was quite remarkable (albeit against lower opposition). Agree with the talk of one-on-ones. Had four during the game. One rounded the keeper & scored, one against either post, & one wide. Also agree regarding crosses. Playing with two wingers in a 4-3-3, little crosses from the wingers from outside the box (put in a few just inside). But I don't mind that so much, with last year's being very cross heavy. Also some absolutely audacious passes! Being Kidderminster Harriers in the Vanarama North, I did have a giggle after a 70 yard pass up field, on the turn, directly to the striker, who took it down with a touch Berbatov would be proud of.

Only real bugs I've noticed thus far are a bit of lag when adjusting attributes looking for signings, & a visual delay in changing of player instructions in tactics. Also it's a little bright (but can easily adjust the screen) & not a fan of the change within player instructions, where I struggle to see what I have on. But other than that, all good.   

 

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3 минуты назад, Minuy600 сказал:

Okay this is getting frustrating, I appear to never be able to regain possesion through tackles whatsoever. Does anyone else have this problem? It's slowly sapping my fun away from this save. Could just be my choice of team however. I don't know.

Unfortunatelly lower teams have a lot of possession by passing in own half, this issue happen few years at least

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9 minutes ago, saihtam said:

It is very strange, additionally for the FB to break the line like that, look from start up top there is guy running straight back, stopping at nothing. Maybe that is full back that was out of position?

I doubt it, look at the line of the defensive when it just plays. It's almost like he is the FB rather than the cm, also look at the position, why cover a CM position as a FB but when it comes to defending on front foot but then switch to RB and not close him down ( no one else is there) your other players should cover.

Might be a one off or misscommincation but if I saw that i'd be going off my nuts. Wouldnt it also be better to change when up field/ in possession rather than defending? that's a recipe for disaster. 

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7 hours ago, Rehnzz said:

I think i've ran into a bit of a bug. I am now at 2022, playing as Brescia.

For some reason City and United are listing really good player for absolute nothings, i just bought Liam Delap for 130k from City and Hannibal Mejbri from United for 225k. These are really good players, Delap is 19 and already a 5-star in my team, whilst Ihattaren and Tonali are 4 stars.

 

Surely this is somehow a hiccup in the system? 

 

130K ???

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Could you report this here for me please - https://community.sigames.com/forum/712-transfers-contracts-scouting-and-staff-responsibilities/

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Just got this in a tunnel interview. Ahead of game 33 in Scotland which is the last one before the split. I have him on loan until the end of the season which is after game 38.

Where about would be best to report it?

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5 hours ago, karanhsingh said:

Actually in FM getting work permits post Brexit is FAR easier. It's more down to wages offered. 

Well that's only easier for if you're buying first team starters.

Buying hot prospects will be much harder, because they'll be coming in on low wages generally.

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