Double0Seven Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Akasha said: Hi, I think you are forgetting that not everyone has computer with big config, and i'm the first one (for the moment) FM must remain accessible to everyone. You do know the argument I made was around this right? Did you read my post? I argued that you can keep the low min specs while still having better graphics and compared it with many other games with similar low specs, but better graphics. Read my post again please. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 FM is the only PC game I play, and I daresay I'm not the only one. I have a console if I want to play games with fancy graphics. I usually watch the games in 2D anyway. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Yes i read it, and i find that FM graphics are enough. Which graphics do you think need to be improved ? ME graphics ? It's not necessary for me. I think that the improvements of the last few years in the gameplay are much more important, no ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevicus Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Nothing from Miles today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double0Seven Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Akasha said: Yes i read it, and i find that FM graphics are enough. Which graphics do you think need to be improved ? ME graphics ? It's not necessary for me. I think that the improvements of the last few years in the gameplay are much more important, no ? Of course, but improvements in gameplay arent everything. I never said anything about gameplay didnt i? The graphics are from the 2000s. We want realism dont we? Better graphics are possible without hindering low end players, thats my whole point. Why arent we aiming for that? I think all graphics can be improved. This will surely attract newer players who are used to better graphics. I dont understand how people are just accepting graphics from the 2000s with arguments like this. If it can be better, why not aim for better? Edited October 10, 2019 by Double0Seven 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Stevicus said: Nothing from Miles today? Just a small feature about being able to choose up yo three players from the senior squad to be eligible for the U-20s (or equivalent) throughout the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saihtam Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Akasha said: Yes i read it, and i find that FM graphics are enough. Which graphics do you think need to be improved ? ME graphics ? It's not necessary for me. I think that the improvements of the last few years in the gameplay are much more important, no ? Specs are not only about graphics. They are limiting simulation aspect of the game by specs. Dont care about also ME graphics or some editor, but inject more power to ME, the AI could differ and use their potential better, each year should stack on different outcomes and make the AI better. There seems not that big leap and seems more been hold back by this. In the latest FMs the starting year most of go the same as always, you know what guys will be bought for big clubs etc. I understand that lower PC consumers want to play also FM and i agree it is good to have this wide spread. When tablet veresion came out, i was hoping they will create this kind of lite version to PC also and thus those who have higher PC can have this more advance version of the game. (edit: seeing these new SS of interface, they tend to be more for tablet users to simplify view for them, but that is just my opinion, will see if good quality of life when it comes out) I would love to SI make option to agree into AI learning. Where there is feedback to AI how us player AI also make moves or tactics so they can use this input making the game better. Machine learning should be used when it comes to simulation that come out every year. I really hope this idea for them. Edited October 10, 2019 by saihtam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autohoratio Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, Stevicus said: Nothing from Miles today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFan Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Any word on custom views being fixed? It's been broken for so long. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ras Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Will we see an option to play the full game on IPad? That would be really cool and something I'd purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ras Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Dagenham_Dave said: FM is the only PC game I play, and I daresay I'm not the only one. I have a console if I want to play games with fancy graphics. I usually watch the games in 2D anyway. Yeah it's the only game I play too, Stadia would be great for me but it's expensive, especially a monthly fee on top of already off the intial outlay, FM is the only game I play so wouldn't use it for anything apart from that. I only watch 3d games though, wouldn't be able to go back to 2d now. I just have it on the lowest possible so it can run without skipping but sometimes still have issues. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaSince86 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dagenham_Dave said: FM is the only PC game I play, and I daresay I'm not the only one. I have a console if I want to play games with fancy graphics. I usually watch the games in 2D anyway. Same here only games i play on PC myself are FM and PES 2020. Would much rather a blog telling us about a feature with a video showcasing it than these twitter polls. Unless the polls are just to fill the gap before the 'bigger' announcements. Edited October 11, 2019 by ChelseaSince86 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, ChelseaSince86 said: Same here only games i play on PC myself are FM and PES 2020. Would much rather a blog telling us about a feature with a video showcasing it than these twitter polls. Unless the polls are just to fill the gap before the 'bigger' announcements. ? We have had the big announcements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, prot651 said: ? We have had the big announcements. I can't let myself believe that...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaSince86 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 10 hours ago, prot651 said: ? We have had the big announcements. aye i thought so, i was just guessing maybe that was the way its being done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gunner86 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, autohoratio said: Cue the outcry of "How is that a new feature", "Let me buy a house" etc etc I love a Steam achievement as much as the next guy, but this could open up a can of complaining worms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bothan Spy Posted October 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 weeks to the beta and no videos of the match engine and no mention of training or transfers. Not to mention no release date. Wow. Make no wonder people get angry and fill these threads with vitriol. If we are expected to pay the best part of forty quid to pre-order a product then I think we deserve more than 'better staff interaction' & a couple of extra achievements (That quite frankly, nobody gives a toss about). Sick of checking out Miles' thread & hearing about his charity booze ups & votes on minor cosmetic changes to the game. Give us some proper news! 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpS_Zen Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Only 3 new achievements? FeelsBadMan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pompey1978 Posted October 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bothan Spy said: 2 weeks to the beta and no videos of the match engine and no mention of training or transfers. Not to mention no release date. Wow. Make no wonder people get angry and fill these threads with vitriol. If we are expected to pay the best part of forty quid to pre-order a product then I think we deserve more than 'better staff interaction' & a couple of extra achievements (That quite frankly, nobody gives a toss about). Sick of checking out Miles' thread & hearing about his charity booze ups & votes on minor cosmetic changes to the game. Give us some proper news! Being a massive pedant, I'm going to point out that no release date yet means we don't actually know if it's two weeks to the Beta - it could be longer. And while I'm surprised there's no solid date for release been announced, I'm being fairly relaxed about it. Software development isn't always predictable; we just don't know what's going on behind the scenes at SI. And what I would also say is this; no one EXPECTS you to pre-order it. It's an option available to you. Similarly, following Miles' personal Twitter account is a choice, not a mandatory duty. He's free to post whatever he likes. The official source of information is the Football Manager account, and I'm sure they'll announce the release date as soon as they can. It's Friday afternoon - relax! 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdbayly Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, gunner86 said: Cue the outcry of "How is that a new feature", "Let me buy a house" etc etc I love a Steam achievement as much as the next guy, but this could open up a can of complaining worms They really should have at least introduced a feature that would allow you to fund your own coaching course out of your salary. As a compromise, it could have been added as a potential 'salary sacrifice' clause when negotiating a contract with a club. This is key for lower league managers that like to start with no badges (who often start out at cash-strapped clubs). There could have even been an achievement linked to doing this. Such a simple, missed opportunity. Edited October 11, 2019 by rdbayly 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bothan Spy Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pompey1978 said: Being a massive pedant, I'm going to point out that no release date yet means we don't actually know if it's two weeks to the Beta - it could be longer. And while I'm surprised there's no solid date for release been announced, I'm being fairly relaxed about it. Software development isn't always predictable; we just don't know what's going on behind the scenes at SI. And what I would also say is this; no one EXPECTS you to pre-order it. It's an option available to you. Similarly, following Miles' personal Twitter account is a choice, not a mandatory duty. He's free to post whatever he likes. The official source of information is the Football Manager account, and I'm sure they'll announce the release date as soon as they can. It's Friday afternoon - relax! I'm not on Twitter. I just Google it to check if there's any news on fm20. Couldn't give a flying fig what cornflakes he eats. I pre-order because I'm an fm junky. Have been since the old Amiga days. I was going off historical times for betas and game releases. It's been the same for years so I see no reason it will differ. And I'm chilled out. Had a pint & 2 cans of beer already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Pompey1978 said: Being a massive pedant, I'm going to point out that no release date yet means we don't actually know if it's two weeks to the Beta - it could be longer. And while I'm surprised there's no solid date for release been announced, I'm being fairly relaxed about it. Software development isn't always predictable; we just don't know what's going on behind the scenes at SI. And what I would also say is this; no one EXPECTS you to pre-order it. It's an option available to you. Similarly, following Miles' personal Twitter account is a choice, not a mandatory duty. He's free to post whatever he likes. The official source of information is the Football Manager account, and I'm sure they'll announce the release date as soon as they can. It's Friday afternoon - relax! No one expects you to pre order but they dangle a carrot of 10% off for pre orders 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey1978 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bothan Spy said: I'm not on Twitter. I just Google it to check if there's any news on fm20. Couldn't give a flying fig what cornflakes he eats. I pre-order because I'm an fm junky. Have been since the old Amiga days. I was going off historical times for betas and game releases. It's been the same for years so I see no reason it will differ. And I'm chilled out. Had a pint & 2 cans of beer already. I pre-order every year too - and you're dead-on right about the beta/release dates. But there must be some reason it's different this year, so I guess we just have to be patient. Enjoy the beers - some of us are still working! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, prot651 said: No one expects you to pre order but they dangle a carrot of 10% off for pre orders Which a) doesn't end for while and b) if you shop around you can get bigger discounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey1978 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, prot651 said: No one expects you to pre order but they dangle a carrot of 10% off for pre orders It's only a £4 carrot, doubt it's enough to truly sway people to take the plunge - especially as there are always better offers around if you look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pompey1978 said: It's only a £4 carrot, doubt it's enough to truly sway people to take the plunge - especially as there are always better offers around if you look. Depends where you are in the world ? Not everyone is from the UK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double0Seven Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Pompey1978 said: Being a massive pedant, I'm going to point out that no release date yet means we don't actually know if it's two weeks to the Beta - it could be longer. And while I'm surprised there's no solid date for release been announced, I'm being fairly relaxed about it. Software development isn't always predictable; we just don't know what's going on behind the scenes at SI. And what I would also say is this; no one EXPECTS you to pre-order it. It's an option available to you. Similarly, following Miles' personal Twitter account is a choice, not a mandatory duty. He's free to post whatever he likes. The official source of information is the Football Manager account, and I'm sure they'll announce the release date as soon as they can. It's Friday afternoon - relax! FM twitter actually referred to miles a few times for more information. So he is an official source of FM information. Would be weird saying the director isn't one would it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey1978 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Double0Seven said: FM twitter actually referred to miles a few times for more information. So he is an official source of FM information. Would be weird saying the director isn't one would it? His twitter header literally says it's his personal account and not for tech support or customer services. Sure he posts news about the game there, but all I mean is I'd not regard it as the holy grail of FM news when there's an actual FM account to follow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey1978 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, prot651 said: Depends where you are in the world ? Not everyone is from the UK Wouldn't know, I assumed most of the digital options are global but I take your point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Not announcing a release date creates a kind of lack or need I like this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaSince86 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) anyone have the list of retailers who are offering the beta access? Used to be released on here but i cant find it. also had a browse on game's website to see how much they are retailing it and they seem to think release date is 1/11/2019 Obviously they are all guessing because another retailer thinks its 30th november. I do love this time of year Edited October 11, 2019 by ChelseaSince86 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bothan Spy Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, Pompey1978 said: I pre-order every year too - and you're dead-on right about the beta/release dates. But there must be some reason it's different this year, so I guess we just have to be patient. Enjoy the beers - some of us are still working! Thank you my friend. If we can't vent our frustrations on a forum, then what else can we do? No need to fall out. Just would have liked a match engine 'work in progress' video by now. Ill still buy it because I'm an addict. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdbayly Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, Pompey1978 said: His twitter header literally says it's his personal account and not for tech support or customer services. Sure he posts news about the game there, but all I mean is I'd not regard it as the holy grail of FM news when there's an actual FM account to follow. He literally just tweeted that he hopes to announce release dates next week. If that's not important news about the game, I don't know what is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteo3champions Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 BREAKING NEWS: EARLY WEEK RELEASE DATE ANNOUNCEMENT!!!! MILES ON TWITTER 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MBarbaric Posted October 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2019 an announcement of an announcement 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigV Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Pompey1978 said: It's Friday afternoon - relax! I can't, I have deadlines to meet 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autohoratio Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, ChelseaSince86 said: anyone have the list of retailers who are offering the beta access? Used to be released on here but i cant find it. also had a browse on game's website to see how much they are retailing it and they seem to think release date is 1/11/2019 Obviously they are all guessing because another retailer thinks its 30th november. I do love this time of year The retailers here are the ones offering beta access with preorder https://www.sega.com/sega-approved-partner-list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, rdbayly said: They really should have at least introduced a feature that would allow you to fund your own coaching course out of your salary. As a compromise, it could have been added as a potential 'salary sacrifice' clause when negotiating a contract with a club. This is key for lower league managers that like to start with no badges (who often start out at cash-strapped clubs). There could have even been an achievement linked to doing this. Such a simple, missed opportunity. I’m really not a fan of the whole using the salary to do anything, with this being the only exception. It doesn’t make sense that you can’t improve as a manager (by improving licenses which improves attributes) just because you’re at a club with limited resources, where in reality these are the very clubs go to to seek personal improvement. On a side note, coaches (I believe) and players (I know) can pay for their own coaching courses, can AI managers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaelbenitez Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 It's not just a question of money with regards to coaching courses, is it? Most times I've had my request rejected by the board was due to the fact that it would reduce my coaching effectiveness during training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyidie Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Funny how many fans of different games want to be developer/PR/whathaveyou of the game they love. Maybe next year they'll release an FM Developer sim and folks can properly manage a release. Suppose it shouldn't be too much of a surprise as for many the main attraction is "I can do job N" better than people in real life. In real life I've found people who have a reputation for being "bad at PR" are the ones I work best with. Hard workers, internally motivated, direct = incredibly efficient. Great people to work with. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasTree83 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Anything on new player roles/instructions yet? Be interesting to see if Sheffield United's system of overlapping centre backs gets an airing. Edited October 11, 2019 by ChristmasTree83 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozzi Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, ChristmasTree83 said: Anything on new player roles/instructions yet? Be interesting to see if Sheffield United's system of overlapping centre backs gets an airing. on some screenshots you can see the new role: Inverted Winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double0Seven Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, whyidie said: Funny how many fans of different games want to be developer/PR/whathaveyou of the game they love. Maybe next year they'll release an FM Developer sim and folks can properly manage a release. Suppose it shouldn't be too much of a surprise as for many the main attraction is "I can do job N" better than people in real life. In real life I've found people who have a reputation for being "bad at PR" are the ones I work best with. Hard workers, internally motivated, direct = incredibly efficient. Great people to work with. Not sure what do you for work, but "bad at PR" and being a hard worker are things that are drastically different that have nothing to do with each other as far as I know. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
You_heard_it_here_first Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, whyidie said: Funny how many fans of different games want to be developer/PR/whathaveyou of the game they love. Maybe next year they'll release an FM Developer sim and folks can properly manage a release. Suppose it shouldn't be too much of a surprise as for many the main attraction is "I can do job N" better than people in real life. In real life I've found people who have a reputation for being "bad at PR" are the ones I work best with. Hard workers, internally motivated, direct = incredibly efficient. Great people to work with. What on Gods earth are you waffling on about? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theballstopshere Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 hours ago, whyidie said: Funny how many fans of different games want to be developer/PR/whathaveyou of the game they love. Maybe next year they'll release an FM Developer sim and folks can properly manage a release. Suppose it shouldn't be too much of a surprise as for many the main attraction is "I can do job N" better than people in real life. In real life I've found people who have a reputation for being "bad at PR" are the ones I work best with. Hard workers, internally motivated, direct = incredibly efficient. Great people to work with. Don't make sense whatsoever. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VP. Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Been expecting the 8th November and I'll be very surprised if it isn't. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
streety Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) thinking of booking a day off as soon as the dates announced..1 whole day of FM20 Edited October 12, 2019 by streety 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, streety said: thinking of booking a day off ass soon as the dates announced..1 whole day of FM20 Most people have Xmas as a day off 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigV Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, prot651 said: Most people have Xmas as a day off 😁 It's the most wonderful time of the year to play games aha. Multiplayer lobbies are a hoot on xmas. No better feeling than setting up a save on xmas and start a long journey xD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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