Popular Post Bothan Spy Posted October 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 Drum roll. The results are in. Miles has divulged another ground-breaking news... Bored of, "better eyebrows on regens" news. We need & deserve something better. Match engine & better AI transfers would be preferable. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidBuddha Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minuti fa, Bothan Spy ha scritto: better AI transfers Let's hope, imo it needs an huge improvement under every point of view. Edited October 12, 2019 by ParanoidBuddha 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dagenham_Dave Posted October 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bothan Spy said: We need & deserve something better. You don't 'deserve' anything. Urgh, this new breed of entitled gamer is insufferable. 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alian62 Posted October 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 54 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said: You don't 'deserve' anything. Urgh, this new breed of entitled gamer is insufferable. If your paying for something you deserve better 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaSince86 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 8 hours ago, SortitoutsiVP said: Been expecting the 8th November and I'll be very surprised if it isn't. Release date sweepstake, I will go 14th November. Have seen 2 retailers guess the 1st and 30th as release dates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
99 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 2 horas atrás, ChelseaSince86 disse: Release date sweepstake, I will go 14th November. Have seen 2 retailers guess the 1st and 30th as release dates I bet on 8th, I'm 99% sure of it. Not just an hunch, I asked some people who might know more than me. But ofcourse, belongs in the speculation category like any other date until it's official. End of November will never happen. Edited October 12, 2019 by 99 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasTree83 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 22 hours ago, Bozzi said: on some screenshots you can see the new role: Inverted Winger. Inverted winger was already there I thought... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigV Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, ChristmasTree83 said: Inverted winger was already there I thought... AMR/AML. We don't know what the changes will be to them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevkak Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, 99 said: I bet on 8th, I'm 99% sure of it. Not just an hunch, I asked some people who might know more than me. But ofcourse, belongs in the speculation category like any other date until it's official. End of November will never happen. Yeah Nov 8 is what I'm thinking too. It won't happen sooner as the beta isn't available yet (it's always 2 weeks before release) and any later isn't going to go well with those up top who want to see a revenue ASAP. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thnigelfc Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 54 minutes ago, Sevkak said: Yeah Nov 8 is what I'm thinking too. It won't happen sooner as the beta isn't available yet (it's always 2 weeks before release) and any later isn't going to go well with those up top who want to see a revenue ASAP. November 8th release date October 25th Beta 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Beta - Thursday 24th October Full game - Thursday 7th November Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakbrown96 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Early November Was what we was told so anything before the 10th else it’s middle so 8th seems very likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaSince86 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 hours ago, thnigelfc said: November 8th release date October 25th Beta beta is a minimum of 2 weeks before release , so yeh it will be no later than the 25th if its the 8th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ChelseaSince86 said: beta is a minimum of 2 weeks before release , so yeh it will be no later than the 25th if its the 8th I'm thinking 6th December !! Think a delay is coming due to the lack of infomation ... and just a gut feeling something isn't quite right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 The passion of the English for betting is therefore not a legend ! Personnaly i begin to screen all of my FM19's View to realise them in FM20. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arijit Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 hours ago, prot651 said: If your paying for something you deserve better You can always not to buy the game and keep playing the existing one. Nobody's shoving it in your rear end to make you buy every year. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, prot651 said: If your paying for something you deserve better 1 hour ago, Arijit said: You can always not to buy the game and keep playing the existing one. Nobody's shoving it in your rear end to make you buy every year. This. Theres a demo available for free, so you have every chance to play the game yourself before buying it. If you buy it, and dont feel its worth it, that's on you not SI. Would you go into a shop, eat a free sample, then buy the product before throwing it in the bin and demanding a better tasting one? Folk seem to act like they have absolutely no choice but to buy every year, and then complain that they've bought it. Edited October 13, 2019 by RandomGuy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Arijit said: You can always not to buy the game and keep playing the existing one. Nobody's shoving it in your rear end to make you buy every year. No its called striving to be better and hoping its a better game than the previous 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arijit Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, prot651 said: No its called striving to be better and hoping its a better game than the previous But your whining was about your entitlement as a paying customer. And I gave a perfect example of why it's a ******** entitlement logic. I will mention it again before you can start throwing another round of your hissy fit... ... If you don't like a product you have paid for it, don't buy it next time. If possible, get a refund. If it has a demo, try it, before buy it otherwise stay away. Don't you test drive many cars before buying a car you liked? Do you go back to other car dealers and bitch about flaws of their cars? You can keep playing your favourite FM for many years, it will not stop working. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, Arijit said: But your whining was about your entitlement as a paying customer. And I gave a perfect example of why it's a ******** entitlement logic. I will mention it again before you can start throwing another round of your hissy fit... ... If you don't like a product you have paid for it, don't buy it next time. If possible, get a refund. If it has a demo, try it, before buy it otherwise stay away. Don't you test drive many cars before buying a car you liked? Do you go back to other car dealers and bitch about flaws of their cars? You can keep playing your favourite FM for many years, it will not stop working. Who is whining or having a hissy fit ? Think you are confused . Yes you do bitch about flaws in your cars ? Don't get why you seem so aggressive ? Don't reply to my opinion if you don't like it as you have others to reply too 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright 747 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, Arijit said: But your whining was about your entitlement as a paying customer. And I gave a perfect example of why it's a ******** entitlement logic. I will mention it again before you can start throwing another round of your hissy fit... ... If you don't like a product you have paid for it, don't buy it next time. If possible, get a refund. If it has a demo, try it, before buy it otherwise stay away. Don't you test drive many cars before buying a car you liked? Do you go back to other car dealers and bitch about flaws of their cars? You can keep playing your favourite FM for many years, it will not stop working. Since FM17 FM has used Denuvo so it is possible they may not be playable for as long as you think 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, Arijit said: Don't you test drive many cars before buying a car you liked? I can picture the mods in a Tasmanian Devil-eque frenzy at the first car analogy of the season 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Cut the digs out now please. I've also noticed it's the same people instigating or involved in issues on here, it needs to stop or infractions and bans will follow. Suggest everyone takes a little time out. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigV Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 @Sheriff7 " You are not the hero we deserved but the hero we needed" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFan Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 The question is...do I book a whole weekend off for the Beta or wait for release? I'm honestly tempted to miss beta this year. I seem to enjoy the game more when I'm not on here learning about everything wrong with the game. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigV Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChelseaFan said: The question is...do I book a whole weekend off for the Beta or wait for release? I'm honestly tempted to miss beta this year. I seem to enjoy the game more when I'm not on here learning about everything wrong with the game. Well considering the beta is different to 20.1/.2/.3 you could always wait it out. I'm certainly going to do that this year cause last year I almost threw my laptop with the bugs around the training places. And im at uni being smashed in 3rd year but fm20 is still on the cards for xmas xD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
99 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 55 minutos atrás, ChelseaFan disse: The question is...do I book a whole weekend off for the Beta or wait for release? I'm honestly tempted to miss beta this year. I seem to enjoy the game more when I'm not on here learning about everything wrong with the game. From my experience --- I enjoyed FM19 beta and one could argue if the changes in the ME from beta to release were good. To me, beta is the full game. There are issues in beta --- and in the full game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali184 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, 99 said: From my experience --- I enjoyed FM19 beta and one could argue if the changes in the ME from beta to release were good. To me, beta is the full game. There are issues in beta --- and in the full game. Beta is not only for match engine issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 6 hours ago, BigV said: @Sheriff7 " You are not the hero we deserved but the hero we needed" Thanks... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 29 minuti fa, Sheriff7 ha scritto: Thanks... class 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakbrown96 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Wish this was true haha, somehow I think they are wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3maldini3 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 09/10/2019 at 20:08, gunner86 said: Same here really. There is enough change to make it worth while. And £35 for 1000 hours of play time works out at 3.5p per hour. I told myself it would take significant changes to takeme away from 19, but even QoL improvements are still improvements. And we have the updated database. I used to be the same, FM19 is the first one that I stopped playing before March. I'm not complaining about it and can't pinpoint the reason for it but it just didn't happen there for me. I tend to agree with how overwhelming the feature announcments on Miles' twitter is, I just stopped bothering about it. I'll buy the game anyway so it makes no difference, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejay Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Am 13.10.2019 um 10:20 schrieb RandomGuy.: This. Theres a demo available for free, so you have every chance to play the game yourself before buying it. If you buy it, and dont feel its worth it, that's on you not SI. Would you go into a shop, eat a free sample, then buy the product before throwing it in the bin and demanding a better tasting one? Folk seem to act like they have absolutely no choice but to buy every year, and then complain that they've bought it. This is hard when it's bascially a monopoly. If I want to play a football manager simulation I can't buy anything else. So there is no real choice 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright 747 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, thejay said: This is hard when it's bascially a monopoly. If I want to play a football manager simulation I can't buy anything else. So there is no real choice This is part of the problem I remember when there was three or four football management games out at the same time. It can be argued that SI has seen off the opposition because of its quality and there is some truth in this however there is also the reason that because the profit margin in football management games is relatively small other developers have dropped out to work on other games that will make them more money but SI had less choice as FM was their main product. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwc1 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Let's hope the dev team actually reads Apple's release notes and updates the game, so Mac users aren't screwed over by the game being unplayable for months... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwc1 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) On 12/10/2019 at 22:20, Bothan Spy said: Drum roll. The results are in. Miles has divulged another ground-breaking news... Bored of, "better eyebrows on regens" news. We need & deserve something better. Match engine & better AI transfers would be preferable. Match engine should be better, although I'm looking forward to way too many chances being generated before SI does what they do every year and nerfs clear cut chances by the striker to offset it ... again. Transfer logic has been laughably tilted in the AI's favor for over a decade, and SI has regularly ignored any comments on this topic over the same time period, so why would it be updated for this edition? Edited October 14, 2019 by cwc1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, cwc1 said: Transfer logic has been laughably tilted in the AI's favor for over a decade, and SI has regularly ignored any comments on this topic over the same time period, so why would it be updated for this edition? What makes you think this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, cwc1 said: Transfer logic has been laughably tilted in the AI's favor for over a decade, and SI has regularly ignored any comments on this topic over the same time period, so why would it be updated for this edition? I disagree, it's far too easy to buy excellent players for pocket change and sell deadwood for millions. If anything, I'd like it to be MUCH harder. Of course, if you only submit a bit and they reject and you don't do anything about it, of course it's hard. Panic buys are supposed to be hard to get cheap. Planned out bids were you have done the due diligence and have done enough to make the player make a fuzz if a reasonable bid is rejected is almost always accepted. Selling is also quite easy, except for poor players on high wages (see Alexis Sanchez as an example), but that is simply down to poor wage control by the club. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) P.S F@@@k Edited October 14, 2019 by Sheriff7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Not really early november then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saihtam Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, kandersson said: Not really early november then... Noone said it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 minute ago, saihtam said: Noone said it. They did. No big deal. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
99 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 minuto atrás, saihtam disse: Noone said it. They did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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99 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 So, I have to do this question: since the release date is only more than a month from now, is there any slight chance that some new feature will be added besides the already announced ones? Or, even better, some more improvements to the ME not yet talked about? Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright 747 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, 99 said: So, I have to do this question: since the release date is only more than a month from now, is there any slight chance that some new feature will be added besides the already announced ones? Or, even better, some more improvements to the ME not yet talked about? Thank you. I would like it to mean more improvements to the ME but I doubt it, unless there are some flaws at the moment 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double0Seven Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) The skeptical person in me: with the things announced as "features" so far and the 19 nov release date instead of early november as said, Im not getting my hopes up high. Something feels wrong. The optimistic person in me: they took the feedback and reactions we gave to their feature reveals and took some extra time to work on them and possibly better features. Edited October 14, 2019 by Double0Seven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
99 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 11 minutos atrás, Double0Seven disse: The skeptical person in me: with the things announced as "features" so far and the 19 nov release date instead of early november as said, Im not getting my hopes up high. Something feels wrong. The optimistic person in me: they took the feedback and reactions we gave to their feature reveals and took some extra time to work on them and possibly better features. Something feels wrong indeed. Well, all we can do is wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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