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Still very early days for me but I'm cautiously optimistic.  I'm finding it a tad too easy but then again I am playing as Spurs who finished 3rd last year so are pretty powerful this time around.  And I've only played three competitive matches so it could all change! (Beat Man 4-2 at home, and Southampton (3-0) and Liverpool (3-1) away from home).  Looking forward to getting started in the Champion's League.....

Biggest gripe I have is the ratings/stats not reflecting what I see in the match engine but this is something that has been happening for versions now so I guess I'll have to wait until the match engine is completely re-vamped to fix it.  I just personally witnessed Alderweireld make four absolute defensive howlers against Liverpool and pick up a 7.6 rating.  In reality each of his howlers let Liverpool through with great chances to score but fortunately Firminho missed an open goal and Strurridge couldn't hit a barn door.  Interestingly it states that Liverpool had three CCC to score in the match but visually they definitely had more than that!

The other issue I have is that you still need a ridiculous amount of coaches where most Premier League teams in real life only have three or four.  But again I appreciate that is probably a massive change in the game as its been that way for a few versions.

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I've managed to reach January on 3 separate saves so far. Im noticing quite a lot of "back to back goals". Score in 39th, score in 40th-41st etc (allow for celebration between too). Both for and against. To give a breakdown of my current save, ive played 36 games.

Game 1 - Goals in 87th, 88th, 89th.
Game 5 - Goals in 59th, 61st, 63rd.
Game 6 - Goals in 45th, 45+1.
Game 9 - Goals in 43rd, 45th.
Game 11 - Goals in 82nd, 84th.
Game 17 - Goals in 30th, 31st.
Game 18 - Goals in 10th, 12th.
Game 21 - Goals in 52nd, 54th.
Game 22 - Goals in 42nd, 44th.
Game 23 - Goals in 1st, 3rd (and 6th).
Game 25 - Goals in 1st, 3rd.
Game 28 - Goals in 23rd, 24th.
Game 32 - Goals in 19th, 21st.
Game 36 - Goals in 29th, 31st & 58th,61st.

My other saves would have similar numbers as i noticed it as a theme on the first save. Is this a common occurrence for anyone else? are these numbers excessive? 
 

 

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10 minutes ago, D_LO_ said:

Not sure if I'm in the right place as this is more editor issues but I'm very disappointed to see Ethan Ampadu is missing from the Beta.

U16s can't be included due to legal implications.

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Does anybody know how to go about fulfilling the "improve coaching staff" promise? I've promised two pretty important players I'd do this so I'm pretty invested in keeping them happy. Since doing so I begged the board for an increase in the number of allowed senior coaching staff and filled the subsequent slots, upgraded at HoYD, GK and Fitness Coach, but in the promises screen it just says they "feel I'm running out of time" to make good on my promise.

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2 minutes ago, D_LO_ said:

The age thing was a slight consideration, he was 15 at the start of the season he was 16 in September, makes no difference?

It's a massive absence to the Exeter squad (I use the editor extensively so personally not an issue)

Not sure on the cutoffs, if you stick it in the Exeter data issues thread you'll get a better answer.

I would say there is a good chance he'll be added at some point this version (Maybe the Feb update) and he should be in FM18.

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52 minutes ago, D_LO_ said:

The age thing was a slight consideration, he was 15 at the start of the season he was 16 in September, makes no difference?

It's a massive absence to the Exeter squad (I use the editor extensively so personally not an issue)

This is from the Data Issues forum:

 

Regarding youth players and inclusion of U16's

People have asked in threads 'why isn’t player X included?'

Players have to be least 16 years old as at 1/9/2016 (i.e. they have a date of birth no more recent than 31/08/2000) to be included in FM17.

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  Philip Rolfe said:
The rule we operate to is that a player who is 16 by September 1st of the starting game year in England can be in the game. This is when they can sign a scholarship and are no longer schoolboys. Anybody younger than that cut-off point will not be in the game because of child protection issues.

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Is it just me or:

I can now predict with 90% chance if there will be a goal from the way the buildup/counter etc is.

Player with the ball running down to the byline a cross backwards goal 95% of the time

Low cross behind the defence to the centre just infront of the goalkeeper, goal 95% of the time

Freekick just outside the panalty box, hoof it over 99% of the time, at least 3 times pr. match

I just played a match that ended 5-4, i predicted 8 of thoose goals, the last was a Panalty.

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Having FM17 open (windowed) in the background while playing another game that uses 3D (full screen), permanently disables the 3D in FM.
The game forces the matches to be shown in 2D Classic. Can't choose anything else.
By permanently i mean in the current session. I have to restart the game in order to get it back again.
This was an issue with FM16 but it disappeared at some point.

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1 hour ago, roykela said:

Having FM17 open (windowed) in the background while playing another game that uses 3D (full screen), permanently disables the 3D in FM.
The game forces the matches to be shown in 2D Classic. Can't choose anything else.
By permanently i mean in the current session. I have to restart the game in order to get it back again.
This was an issue with FM16 but it disappeared at some point.

What?! You are playing another game besides FM?! Sacrilege!

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2 hours ago, Herbie2100 said:

Is it just me or:

I can now predict with 90% chance if there will be a goal from the way the buildup/counter etc is.

Player with the ball running down to the byline a cross backwards goal 95% of the time

Low cross behind the defence to the centre just infront of the goalkeeper, goal 95% of the time

Freekick just outside the panalty box, hoof it over 99% of the time, at least 3 times pr. match

I just played a match that ended 5-4, i predicted 8 of thoose goals, the last was a Panalty.

What Highlights level do choose when watching matches?

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3 hours ago, HUNT3R said:

What Highlights level do choose when watching matches?

Key, so it's 8 out of 20-25

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4 minutes ago, Herbie2100 said:

Key, so it's 8 out of 20-25

So that's why you're able to predict goals. Key highlights will show you key highlights, basically goals and CCCs (good attacking chances).

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3 minutes ago, HUNT3R said:

So that's why you're able to predict goals. Key highlights will show you key highlights, basically goals and CCCs (good attacking chances).

i know but 8 out of 20-25 is still to high to be right 100% of the time. basically it's the same goals scored over and over, nothing new, nothing unpredictable.

 

@HUNT3R are you aware of any low cross behind the defenders bug? Looking over my goals i think there might be a problem, so will start to collect pkm's. Just wouldnt begin if SI wheere aware.

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5 minutes ago, Herbie2100 said:

i know but 8 out of 20-25 is still to high to be right 100% of the time. basically it's the same goals scored over and over, nothing new, nothing unpredictable.

 

@HUNT3R are you aware of any low cross behind the defenders bug? Looking over my goals i think there might be a problem, so will start to collect pkm's. Just wouldnt begin if SI wheere aware.

It doesn't matter if they're aware of issues or not. Most of the time they will be aware of issues, but PKMs are still needed to log bugs. If you have, please report it with PKMs.

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13 hours ago, Nikopol said:

In my own experiences injuries are more common than last year, but they occur more often outside of matches. This doesn't bother me, in my perspective i had an unrealistically low amount of injuries in FM16 and this year seems a bit more authentic and challenging.

A bugbear of mine, I get the in game injuries but get really fed up with injuries done in the gym etc, IRL that very seldom happens if at all, strained abs, etc just a nonsense.

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7 hours ago, roykela said:

Having FM17 open (windowed) in the background while playing another game that uses 3D (full screen), permanently disables the 3D in FM.
The game forces the matches to be shown in 2D Classic. Can't choose anything else.
By permanently i mean in the current session. I have to restart the game in order to get it back again.
This was an issue with FM16 but it disappeared at some point.

This is likely due to the number of animation/match engine changes in 3D. Really two games running at the same time isn't supported behaviour but if we get a chance we'll try and investigate. 

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32 minutes ago, jc1 said:

A bugbear of mine, I get the in game injuries but get really fed up with injuries done in the gym etc, IRL that very seldom happens if at all, strained abs, etc just a nonsense.

Do you employ sports scientist for each of your squads? Apparently Sports Scientist can "help stop the frequency of certain types of injuries and can help with players recovery. " - per Neil Brock SI on another thread.

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12 minutes ago, mhaffy said:

Do you employ sports scientist for each of your squads? Apparently Sports Scientist can "help stop the frequency of certain types of injuries and can help with players recovery. " - per Neil Brock SI on another thread.

IRL Hibernian do have one but in game they do not, they have a personal trainer, players just don't get the amount of non playing injuries they do in the game, strained shoulder by doing weights, strained abs in the gym, etc, same as last year.

 

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I'll ask again, I cannot see where I can turn off the zombie lookalike manager and add my own pic like I was able to do in Preferences.

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Where can I find assistant manager's report on team morale and team cohesion? It used to be located under assistant manager --> reports tab if I remember correctly, but it's no longer there.

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12 minutes ago, jc1 said:

I'll ask again, I cannot see where I can turn off the zombie lookalike manager and add my own pic like I was able to do in Preferences.

It seems you can't unfortunately.

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1 minute ago, mikelfc8 said:

It seems you can't unfortunately.

Cheers, hopefully they put it back for official release, the new one just looks ridiculous.

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Just purchased and started up my save with Crewe.

 

One little thing I noticed. I rejected two offers for one of my 18 year old youngsters, Callum Ainley. I had a private chat with him, and he said that he has reached the point in his career where he is craving silverware. Really? The dude is 18 years old. Tad unrealistic if you ask me.

 

Apart from that, game seems awesome. Will post back when I have delved in deeper

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5 minutes ago, kuraeero said:

Where can I find assistant manager's report on team morale and team cohesion? It used to be located under assistant manager --> reports tab if I remember correctly, but it's no longer there.

I think its under the analysis tab from the tactics screen.

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What i've noticed is that FM freezes when i'm opening NVIDEA Geforce Experience .  As soon as i start it , the Game freezes (when a match is running)  . I'm playing in Windows Mode .

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17 minutes ago, Cougar2010 said:

I think its under the analysis tab from the tactics screen.

And there it was.

Thank you!

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9 minutes ago, haffaz77 said:

What i've noticed is that FM freezes when i'm opening NVIDEA Geforce Experience .  As soon as i start it , the Game freezes (when a match is running)  . I'm playing in Windows Mode .

Nvidea Geforece Experience when opened, depending on the settings, looks to see what games you have on your PC, that are coompatible with NGE. It may be that whilst carrying out that operation which affects the game as NGE looks through the files. Presumably, once loaded the game continues? I also presume you mean that you were playing a game at the time.

 

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8 minutes ago, Kazza said:

Nvidea Geforece Experience when opened, depending on the settings, looks to see what games you have on your PC, that are coompatible with NGE. It may be that operation which affects the game as NGE looks through the files. Presumably, once loaded the game continues? I also presume you mean that you were playing a game at the time.

 

Yes it happens when a game is playing . It didn't happen with FM 16 

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8 minutes ago, haffaz77 said:

Yes it happens with a game is playing . It didn't happen with FM 16 

I just loaded NGE whist playing and the game and it did not freeze. I have the game in full window mode?

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Just had Mitrovic do a somersault after scoring, brilliant.

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5 minutes ago, Kazza said:

I just loaded NGE whist playing and the game and it did not freeze. I have the game in full window mode?

When a game is playing and i just open NGE , it completely freezes . I have to close FM thru the taskmanager . Its no big deal tho . i just wont open nge anymore when im playing FM :D

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Small sample, but I LOVE the ME so far. Very robust and thrilling to watch. Only played two matches, (friendlies) but its a huge upgrage on last season.

 

 

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One thing I have realised is that players sometimes 'warp' through other players and run right through them like they are not even there. Will post a pkm in the bugs forums

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What I do not understand is that I get the pre-match analysis saying my opposition is most vunerable to facing  (4-1-2-3 DM Wide) then my pre-match tactical advice tells me to play 4-4-2? Is that based on my players best positions and roles or is there a contradiction in these two sets of analysis/advice?

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 Bit of feedback here.

Firstly I'm noticing more missed passes and sloppy play which is good, there was always far too many inch perfect passes in the ME, 40-50 yd passes right onto the players foot, but now I'm seeing more bog standard passes and play which feels and looks more natural, especially in the lower leagues.

I can't see any glitches in the ME, no weird anomalies to report, the only strange thing I have noticed is during 3 friendlies there was absolutely no crowd whatsoever but you could hear the crowd noise in game, I've not looked through all posts, so I don't know if this has been reported before.

 

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You're probably playing at the lowest video settings. Check the preferences to see if the crowd quality is set to at least low.

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Hi, FM-ers.

Not too sure if it's a bug and has been reported.  It's on Average Possession for World Cup Qualifier of 3 nations (please refer to attached photos).

 

World Cup Asian Qualifying Section_ Stats Team Overview.png

World Cup Quals (NAM)_ Stats Team Overview.png

World Cup Quals (SAM)_ Stats Team Overview.png

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Hi, FM-ers.

One more.  It's on match attendance for World Cup Qualifier.  Once again, not too sure if it's a bug and has been reported.

Average attendance is 25,568 but the stands on the right side and behind the post is empty (please view the attached photo)

Argentina v Chile_ Pitch Full-3.gif

Argentina v Chile_ Pitch Full-2.gif

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One thing I never really see, is someone actually running full pelt with the ball down the wing.

Always looks like they are jogging slowly

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Hi, FM-ers.

One more.  It's on match attendance for World Cup Qualifier.  Once again, not too sure if it's a bug and has been reported.

Average attendance is 25,568 but the stands on the right side and behind the post is empty (please view the attached photo)

 

That good well be to do with your game settings. if your running on a low spec pc/laptop and the setting are low/med then as far as I know you do not get the crowds etc as they pull on your processor.

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36 minutes ago, Kazza said:

Hi, FM-ers.

One more.  It's on match attendance for World Cup Qualifier.  Once again, not too sure if it's a bug and has been reported.

Average attendance is 25,568 but the stands on the right side and behind the post is empty (please view the attached photo)

 

That good well be to do with your game settings. if your running on a low spec pc/laptop and the setting are low/med then as far as I know you do not get the crowds etc as they pull on your processor.

Hi, Kazza.

Not really.  I've had my crowd setting on High.  Kindly refer to my attached photo.  Thank you.

Football Manager 2017_ Preferences Match-2.png

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3 hours ago, eriktous said:

You're probably playing at the lowest video settings. Check the preferences to see if the crowd quality is set to at least low.

Ta for that, I did see a reply to this in the bugs forum, usually I don't have to change any settings as they are normally all ok, will check it next time I play.

Got it working now, cheers, setting was on very low for some strange reason.

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Maybe this might just be me being colour blind but on the post match analysis screen the section for medium distance passes is a circle of solid colour rather than a circle with a number in it.

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1 hour ago, ak71 said:

Hi, Kazza.

Not really.  I've had my crowd setting on High.  Kindly refer to my attached photo.  Thank you.

Football Manager 2017_ Preferences Match-2.png

What's your graphics card? worth starting a bugs thread and put your system details in that thread  

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On 25/10/2016 at 22:17, Kazza said:

HI

 

Just wanted to check with others: it seems that when my assman gives me views on set piece takers, it normally means that the set piece takers I have already set, appear to have been removed? Anyone else find this?

This keeps happening is it a fixture that the set piece takers start afresh or is it a bug? Constantly having to reset the set piece takers, seems odd to me. Would one of the devs please respond this is my third attempt at raising this issue. Before I report it as a bug I would like some feedback.

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Wanted to add my voice to those saying that free kicks are ridiculous.

I am playing in League One with Sheff Utd. I have 2 players with Free Kicks 14 and 15 respectively (both with 13+ Technique). I get highlights of at least 4 (often more) Free Kicks a game that are within 25 yards of the opposition goal. In 14 games played my players are yet to hit the target. They miss high or wide of the goal constantly. I understand if these attempts were being saved but to not even hit the target is just silly.

 

To give some perspective I watched my friend's Sunday League team and even in those game the target is hit at least once a game from players of far less ability.

 

Let's sort this out for release please.

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By comparison, Jordan Henderson, 11 for free kicks, has scored 3 DFs on my save in the first half of the season.

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