anagain Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, JJ72 said: Just get rid of Southgate please and employ someone who knows how to attack Did we not attack? Looked to me like we were one of the best attacking teams at the WC. Top scorers? Okay, 6 were against Iran, but we looked so different to the NL England I've always been for Southgate, just not sure who's better. Howe maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, georginho_juventusygr said: The next generation of French kids will look at Giroud as their idol, top scorer of all time. Instead of looking at Thierry Henry. What a sad state of affairs. I refuse to believe that. Well, Giroud is a textbook example of someone who has made the most of his talent. Never been the star player but he's always there when he is needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentwars Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: Poch Do you really want an Argentine manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 When Kane stepped up i did think maybe he should have let someone else take it. Obviously that was never going to happen, but the mental gymnastics he would have been going through - "do i do the same thing, do i go opposite where he went?" etc - would have put too much pressure on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM99 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) I love Southgate and by and large I think he's done a decent job this tournament but I think a new approach under a different manager could be a good thing. Saying that I would also be happy for him to continue for Euro 24. I also don't really see any managers out there that are both A) and improvement on Southgate and B) realistic. Dyche maybe? Edited December 10, 2022 by AM99 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Ackter said: Deschamps also has to go after this tournament. Portuguese manage too. I'm agreeing with you way too much for one evening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, ginnybob said: And you were ****ing fuming when we boycotted the first few. ****ing right, I told that Stanley Rous what a **** he was on Twitter too 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Gutted, but we're a proper top team at international level now, pushed the favourites all the way and looked the better team for a while at 1-1. No more of this plucky England tag needed. Southgate's tactics at key moments with subs, etc is always a bit questionable but I think the lineup and setup was right, Mbappe was mostly quiet and it was just moments that did us in. Bringing off Saka and not replacing with Grealish maybe a bad move, but ultimately Sir Gareth leaves who comes in who can do everything just as well, including the man management which is absolutely key in international football. Poch maybe, but I doubt he's interested tbh. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, silentwars said: Do you really want an Argentine manager? Why wouldn't you? Only reason would be racism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentwars Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, JD nawrat said: When Kane stepped up i did think maybe he should have let someone else take it. Obviously that was never going to happen, but the mental gymnastics he would have been going through - "do i do the same thing, do i go opposite where he went?" etc - would have put too much pressure on him. I thought that before he took it, but then if the other player missed everyone would be raging that Kane didn't take it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Anyhow... Anyone checked on Rob?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Btw those who wanted us to go and attack France from the off, you know they have Mbappe and Dembele to counter with right? We'd have been done for by HT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Southgate doesn’t need to leave to be honest. We were well in that game and the better side imo. We did take the game to them (as much as you realistically can against the world champions) and didn’t play a back 5 and retreat. Tactically we mastered Mbappé. I couldn’t really have asked for more from Southgate to be fair. We were really unlucky. Southgate has evolved this tournament imo. Promising signs. We aren’t getting anyone better. Edited December 10, 2022 by Smallen 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Expecting ridicule for this, but i think OGS would make a good England manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Genuinely don’t know how England FA would turn too. Has to be someone that keeps the team harmony going. Steve Cooper would be my guess because of his previous connections with England and being involved with likes of Foden etc. Cant see us ever going aboard again. Howe the inform one, but that would be a very hard battle to get. Staying internal with like Steve Holland would be an utter disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Croatia, Italy, France. Three games Southgate showed he just isn't good enough, not proactive enough. **** subs yet again from him that ****ed us over. Sterling was absolutely shocking again. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Constantine said: Anyhow... Anyone checked on Rob?? I don't want to insult anyone, but this is just too perfect: Spoiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, silentwars said: I thought that before he took it, but then if the other player missed everyone would be raging that Kane didn't take it. Exactly why it was only ever going to be Kane. Different if they had a Lampard or Gerrard there, but nobody else in that squad is an automatic PK taker for their club. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Smallen said: Southgate doesn’t need to leave to be honest. We were well in that game and the better side imo. We did take the game to them and didn’t play a back 5 and retreat. Tactically we mastered Mbappé. I couldn’t really have asked for more from Southgate to be fair. We were really unlucky. Southgate has evolved this tournament imo. Promising signs. We aren’t getting anyone better. You're not going to get better without replacing him either though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I wouldn't be opposed to keeping Southgate after this tournament. He got the first 11 right, bad changes in this game but sometimes that happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: ****ing right, I told that Stanley Rous what a **** he was on Twitter too Was twitter friendlier by telegram? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, AM99 said: I love Southgate and by and large I think he's done a decent job this tournament but I think a new approach under a different manager could be a good thing. Saying that I would also be happy for him to continue for Euro 24. I also don't really see any managers out there that are both A) and improvement on Southgate and B) realistic. Dyche maybe? I'd try and approach Newcastle for Howe. Before he proved he can actually manage a big team, it was clear he was appointed to be a transition manager before they went for a big name anyway like Mark Hughes was at Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, silentwars said: Do you really want an Argentine manager? Yes. Don't have a problem at all. Falklands ended a long time ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, pearcey_90 said: Genuinely don’t know how England FA would turn too. Has to be someone that keeps the team harmony going. Steve Cooper would be my guess because of his previous connections with England and being involved with likes of Foden etc. Cant see us ever going aboard again. Howe the inform one, but that would be a very hard battle to get. Staying internal with like Steve Holland would be an utter disaster. Time for Aidy Boothroyd to earn his coin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, JD nawrat said: Expecting ridicule for this, but i think OGS would make a good England manager. Get out gloating Jock Turd 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Haguey said: Btw those who wanted us to go and attack France from the off, you know they have Mbappe and Dembele to counter with right? We'd have been done for by HT. It's weird how every team ever to win an international tournament has been held back by their defensive manager.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, anagain said: Did we not attack? Looked to me like we were one of the best attacking teams at the WC. Top scorers? Okay, 6 were against Iran, but we looked so different to the NL England I've always been for Southgate, just not sure who's better. Howe maybe. Southgate's had a good tournament, but he'll always pick his favourites and will rarely make ballsy calls that can decide games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 It's a bit weird everyone in here laying into Southgate over subs and **** when you all wanted Saka off at half time If the players want Southgate to stay, and Southgate wants to stay, I'd be happy for him to stay. We've got a good thing going here. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Smallen said: Southgate doesn’t need to leave to be honest. We were well in that game and the better side imo. We did take the game to them (as much as you realistically can against the world champions) and didn’t play a back 5 and retreat. Tactically we mastered Mbappé. I couldn’t really have asked for more from Southgate to be fair. We were really unlucky. Southgate has evolved this tournament imo. Promising signs. We aren’t getting anyone better. Issue would be, does he move on this squad over the next 18 months? He clearly has favourites, so would he dare leave out Sterling/Maguire etc over that period when it’s likely they should be as the cycle with them is ending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, anagain said: Was twitter friendlier by telegram? Carrier pigeon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, JD nawrat said: Expecting ridicule for this, but i think OGS would make a good England manager. You deserve ridicule for that... Tbf, though, someone on discord suggested Scotty Parker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Btw that's one of the worst reffing performances I think I've ever seen. Atrocious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Bootador said: I wouldn't be opposed to keeping Southgate after this tournament. He got the first 11 right, bad changes in this game but sometimes that happens. Bad changes happen every game with Southgate though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Bootador said: I wouldn't be opposed to keeping Southgate after this tournament. He got the first 11 right, bad changes in this game but sometimes that happens. If he stays he must get an assistant manager that will give him a bollocking and make sure he does actually have a plan B and capacity to change the game. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, ginnybob said: Time for Aidy Boothroyd to earn his coin Send the Sam Signal up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM99 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Heartwork said: I'd try and approach Newcastle for Howe. Before he proved he can actually manage a big team, it was clear he was appointed to be a transition manager before they went for a big name anyway like Mark Hughes was at Man City. Howe is a bad manager, stay away imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentwars Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ackter said: Why wouldn't you? Only reason would be racism. Not at all, this is meant to be the best of England. Same way I wouldn't want an English manager if I was from Argentina. I understand smaller countries going for foreign managers, but I'm firmly of the opinion we should be appointing English or at least British managers. Plus, it hasn't exactly worked out when we've both in other highly rated foreign coaches in the past. @skybluedave Edited December 10, 2022 by silentwars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr Adam said: It’s clutching at the clutchiest of straws. It probably was a foul but that’s football. Not a chance it was as clear as many make out. Thats just it. It's a debatable foul. Right in the corner, France go all the way up the other end and England dont deal with it. If Mbappe goes down in that very counter attack, there could have been a free kick and yellow card too. So many little decisions like that throughout games, uts for teams to manage and deal with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: Time for Aidy Boothroyd to earn his coin I'd like my neck to still be attached at the end of every England game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: Time for Aidy Boothroyd to earn his coin Harry’s at a loose end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Hopefully Southgate stays. England aren't winning a thing while he manages them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: Time for Aidy Boothroyd to earn his coin He's in India right now, managing Jamshedpur. 1 win, 1 draw and 7 defeats. Perfect for the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Confused Clarity said: People whinging about the first France goal? Bonkers. As in it was a foul on the England player. Crazy to dispute that?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Saka had Hernandez in his pocket, he should never have come off. Sterling hasn't even been in the country ffs. Mount, as usual, impacts absolutely nothing, braindead shove on him aside. Grealish two minutes? Come on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Heartwork said: If he stays he must get an assistant manager that will give him a bollocking and make sure he does actually have a plan B and capacity to change the game. I agree, it just needs a small tweak like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, silentwars said: Not at all, this is meant to be the best of England. Same way I wouldn't want an English manager if I was from Argentina. I understand smaller countries going for foreign managers, but I'm firmly of the opinion we should be appointing English or at least British managers. Plus, it hasn't exactly worked out when we've both in other highly rated foreign coaches in the past. But all the English managers are terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Rebs said: As in it was a foul on the England player. Crazy to dispute that?!? YOU HAD THE ENTIRE PITCH TO STOP THAT GOAL HAPPENING. ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, pearcey_90 said: Issue would be, does he move on this squad over the next 18 months? He clearly has favourites, so would he dare leave out Sterling/Maguire etc over that period when it’s likely they should be as the cycle with them is ending. Unless a left footed centre back comes along, there’s no need to replace Maguire as long as he keeps playing like he has done for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaldini Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 We played well. France played like Sean Dyche was in charge and needed a massive helping hand from the awful officials, they’re the only team in the semifinals that don’t deserve to be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Anyone who lives near Leeds pop round and check on Rob please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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