Ruh Roh Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I'd like to see them put in some kind of world map. The game already has the longitudes and latitudes of cities anyway, it would be pretty much no work and I'd get to see what part of Switzerland my Challenge League title rivals are from. I'm a bit of a geography nerd and this isn't the kind of thing that everyone would use, but I know I'd use a graphical representation for teams' stadiums and players' birthplaces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnakai Haaskivi Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Seconded, if only because I suck at geography and this would be a good way to learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Shanahan Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I'd like to see them put in some kind of world map. The game already has the longitudes and latitudes of cities anyway, it would be pretty much no work and I'd get to see what part of Switzerland my Challenge League title rivals are from. I'm a bit of a geography nerd and this isn't the kind of thing that everyone would use, but I know I'd use a graphical representation for teams' stadiums and players' birthplaces. For this I use wikipedia (in the few cases where I can't immediately identify the town, or the many cases where the name isn't always indicative of the town). I know kind of nerdy, but... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
streety Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 would be a good little feature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Good feature suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 13, 2010 Administrators Share Posted October 13, 2010 This has been mentioned before actually, I think Ter quite likes the idea it's just for legal issues it's more of a pain than you'd expect. Cheers for bringing it up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Legal Issues? With who? The only legal issue I could think of would involve who you get the geo images from ... or is it a case of some sort of silly little patent someone has for creating a program that is able to do this, preventing the team from creating it without lawsuits or paying some stupid fee to be allowed too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I would like this but it might add a lot more GBs to the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Not really Ishu, depends how high resolution they do I play a game that uses quite high res images mapping the Earth, and it only uses 264MB of space for them If you were to combine them into one single image, it would be around a 1,250,000 x 1,250,000 pixel image IIRC, which is like a 330metre x 330metre piece of paper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted October 14, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted October 14, 2010 It would be pretty much no work? Eeeeeeeeeeeek! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Legal Issues?With who? God. The big guy. Licensing issues too. But seriously - nice idea, not sure how much I'd use it after the first few times. Like someone else mentioned, I'm a big Wikipedia user and GoogleMaps user. FM+Internetting = success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I love the idea It would be very helpful whenever managing in a foreign country. I most often manage in England where I'm not from and when I play against Northampton, Swindon, Bradford or many others I have in fact no clue where in England these are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted October 14, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted October 14, 2010 The original maps idea is here btw http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/88352-Suggestion-Maps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Right Hand Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 It would be pretty much no work? Eeeeeeeeeeeek! Yeah, just knock it up in your lunch break - draw the borders on pieces of A4 - remember Italy looks like a boot, Britain like an old lady in a chair etc, etc, scan them in this afternoon, import them and you're done - easy. Don't know what all the fuss is about :wink: Seriously though, I've seen this mentioned several times and it would be a good, although not vital, addition to the game. So get your crayons out Ter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I like this idea, but not totally fussed if it isn't in the game TBH. Great if it is, but not a big deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikari2001 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I think this is a great idea FM could do with some brightening up in some areas, and some maps would be nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N^G Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 integrate google earth with the game and plot the x,y s with team badge style custom markers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 integrate google earth with the game and plot the x,y s with team badge style custom markers! Why would google let SI do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Why would google let SI do that? Same reason why it won't happen. Cha-Ching! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooner Steve Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I like this alot. I must admit I have played Fifa Manager :o and this feature is on there. Granted it is only one a few good features! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmason122 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Sounds nice, but for me it makes little difference. AS long as the main core of the game is good i'm happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dindle Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Me too. I'd also like a birds eye view animation of a small plane travelling to European games, like they use to advance the plot in adventure movies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seax Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Me too. I'd also like a birds eye view animation of a small plane travelling to European games, like they use to advance the plot in adventure movies. Why not go the whole hog and see them travel to away matches by coach, perhaps for lower league sides, it could break down or be delayed by traffic!! This would then delay the start of the game and perhaps limit the match preperation time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Fairly sure there's open source maps out there. Wikimedia Commons must have some public domain images, and there's the NASA open source license which I think allows for commercial use (I am not a lawyer of course). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMister Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 This is a cool site to play about with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I have also seen this on Wikipedia and like it. Here's a link to the top Swiss league (Swiss Super League), seeing as it is mentioned in the first post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_Swiss_Super_League#Stadia_and_locations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmsteve Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Like the idea. Would be interesting to see if more geographical aspects could be integrated into the game as a result of it such as the home advantage of Ecuador I think, who play at x-thousand ft above sea level or the impact on teams from massive countries, like Luch Vladivostok having to travel through some ridiculous amount of timezones to reach Moscow for games. Not sure how or if you could ever code such things but it does have an effect on games irl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GioGio85 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 This would be a great addition to the game and being able to see visually how far your opponants have to travel or how far you have to travel would help my grographical knowledge, which pretty much all comes from FM anyways Hope my old geography teachers arent reading this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvandyke Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Would add a lot to the game for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted October 16, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted October 16, 2010 Like the idea. Would be interesting to see if more geographical aspects could be integrated into the game as a result of it such as the home advantage of Ecuador I think, who play at x-thousand ft above sea level or the impact on teams from massive countries, like Luch Vladivostok having to travel through some ridiculous amount of timezones to reach Moscow for games. Not sure how or if you could ever code such things but it does have an effect on games irl. I think we already have altitude in the game somewhere. Not sure how much of an effect it has though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cydver Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Like the idea. Would be interesting to see if more geographical aspects could be integrated into the game as a result of it such as the home advantage of Ecuador I think, who play at x-thousand ft above sea level or the impact on teams from massive countries, like Luch Vladivostok having to travel through some ridiculous amount of timezones to reach Moscow for games. Not sure how or if you could ever code such things but it does have an effect on games irl. I agree with this, there should be more of the match-day preparation feature where traveling earlier to other countries with the selected squad to train will actually have an effect on the overall gameplay. So the implementation of maps would help this as places further away like for the Super Cup would actually have the distance reflected and force earlier traveling. Same for the international game where it currently seems England can play at Wembley, play in Mexico 2-3 days later and then go back to Wembley for a final friendly before the WC/EC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichiboy08 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 I think maps would be a very good idea if you were making your own leagues, for example. IMO, the only thing that stops me from making regional leagues is the fact that they do not work properly in the game; eventually things will and do go wrong and become like the elephant in the room when playing a career game. I think if maps were tied into the editor, each team given a location and each league had its own borders then the chances of teams popping up in different leagues would be massively reduced. I know that currently the game implements longtitudes and latitudes but for more simple minded folk (like myself) having a map would make life a lot easier. Plus, it would be great in-game to know wherabouts teams are in the country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted October 16, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted October 16, 2010 I agree with this, there should be more of the match-day preparation feature where traveling earlier to other countries with the selected squad to train will actually have an effect on the overall gameplay. So the implementation of maps would help this as places further away like for the Super Cup would actually have the distance reflected and force earlier traveling. Same for the international game where it currently seems England can play at Wembley, play in Mexico 2-3 days later and then go back to Wembley for a final friendly before the WC/EC. This should happen already. Travelling time is taken into account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Legal Issues?With who? The only legal issue I could think of would involve who you get the geo images from ... or is it a case of some sort of silly little patent someone has for creating a program that is able to do this, preventing the team from creating it without lawsuits or paying some stupid fee to be allowed too? Earth ......... legal this legal that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quackje Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 The maps similar to you see on wiki would be lovely and quite simple to fit onto the league news or something like that, highlighting your next opposition, distance perhaps. I made a (very bad) mockup of another place I would really love to see a map, in the scouting section. So firstly, theres another button at the bottom so that you can see the map view meaning you can still do everything as before. Then it can highlight the country currently scouting, on the list to scout and been scouted in different colours. If I click on an area it should zoom me into that continent so I can see clearly and then if I click on a nation it should be added to the assignments, so very quickly I could click around half of south america for one scout and half for another for example. It would have tooltips too, so on the world map if I hovered over it would say Europe perhaps, then on the zoomed map it would say which country it is. If this was done with permanent text I think the map would get much too cluttered. If you hovered over an assigned nation it would give you more information, like the number of days and maybe another click on the tooltip would link you to reports from that nation while clicking on an assigned nation would remove it from assignments, maybe a confirm for the one that is currently scouting. I think the main advantage is to be able to assign your scouts to exactly where you want without going through that huge list of countries several times. It would also mean you wouldn't have to guess what the games idea of west africa actually meant or you want to scout only some of eastern europe. Other things it could have but I'm not sure the best way of implementing, a map showing the assigned for a certain scout in one colour + in a different colour all other scouts assignments. League specific things such as where is classed as foreign/not foreign based on which league you are managing in so that you could scout those areas more thoroughly. Finally a representation of the scouts knowledge, probably using the same colours as in the knowledge bars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonedroses Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Personally I use Wikipedia ad then Google earth to have a look ah the facilities (and the sportscars of players and wags parked around the ground...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemparowkenastoprocent Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 The maps similar to you see on wiki would be lovely and quite simple to fit onto the league news or something like that, highlighting your next opposition, distance perhaps.I made a (very bad) mockup of another place I would really love to see a map, in the scouting section. <screenshot> So firstly, theres another button at the bottom so that you can see the map view meaning you can still do everything as before. Then it can highlight the country currently scouting, on the list to scout and been scouted in different colours. If I click on an area it should zoom me into that continent so I can see clearly and then if I click on a nation it should be added to the assignments, so very quickly I could click around half of south america for one scout and half for another for example. It would have tooltips too, so on the world map if I hovered over it would say Europe perhaps, then on the zoomed map it would say which country it is. If this was done with permanent text I think the map would get much too cluttered. If you hovered over an assigned nation it would give you more information, like the number of days and maybe another click on the tooltip would link you to reports from that nation while clicking on an assigned nation would remove it from assignments, maybe a confirm for the one that is currently scouting. I think the main advantage is to be able to assign your scouts to exactly where you want without going through that huge list of countries several times. It would also mean you wouldn't have to guess what the games idea of west africa actually meant or you want to scout only some of eastern europe. Other things it could have but I'm not sure the best way of implementing, a map showing the assigned for a certain scout in one colour + in a different colour all other scouts assignments. League specific things such as where is classed as foreign/not foreign based on which league you are managing in so that you could scout those areas more thoroughly. Finally a representation of the scouts knowledge, probably using the same colours as in the knowledge bars. very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkbright Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 I love the idea personally but think if I wanted to know more about a club I would just google it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruh Roh Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 I don't know much of anything specific about Open Street Map, but it might be the kind of project that can be used for something like this? Not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan A Wadge Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I quite sure that you can use openstreetmap for not for profit projects. Since FM is a profitable game, they wouldn't be able to use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradmonk Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Just use Google Earth, thats what I do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted October 17, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted October 17, 2010 I love the idea personally but think if I wanted to know more about a club I would just google it. Just use Google Earth, thats what I do Surely that's the point in showing this sort of stuff in the game so that you don't have to use anything like Google Earth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkermush Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I would love to see this feature added. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmsteve Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Plus there's a lot of countries where google earth has very little data on. I just had a look on there now out of curiosity after reading this thread to see one of the sides i fancy managing in FM11 and it visually consisted of either a white screen with a single road crossing it, or a mass of green blur. No idea where the town was meant to be, never mind the ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Would definitely add something to the game and would also make it look more pleasing to the eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I stiil don't understand how come you need to license the WORLD. But I'd certainly like to see this in the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansleg Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Nice idea but if it is ever implemented keep it simple! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I stiil don't understand how come you need to license the WORLD. But I'd certainly like to see this in the game You don't need the license to the world but to the maps. You are more than welcome to go and click pics of all the WORLD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N^G Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Why would google let SI do that? Why wouldnt they provided SI licensed it from them? basically its a case of get a corporate licence for google maps/google earth which is available as I've looked into it myself for software development ive had to carry out at work (google maps is probably easier to integrate although an internet connection is required), then create a massive xml overlay file with a marker for each club (or even better, generate the marker xml on the fly depending on the data required to be displayed), which quite frankly if I can do, then SI should have no problem, build some stuff into the game around the data stored in the database for the marker data, and bobs your uncle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Why wouldnt they provided SI licensed it from them?basically its a case of get a corporate licence for google maps/google earth which is available as I've looked into it myself for software development ive had to carry out at work (google maps is probably easier to integrate although an internet connection is required), then create a massive xml overlay file with a marker for each club (or even better, generate the marker xml on the fly depending on the data required to be displayed), which quite frankly if I can do, then SI should have no problem, build some stuff into the game around the data stored in the database for the marker data, and bobs your uncle. Licenses cost lots of money. Don't think SI have maps on their priority list to spend that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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