luka_zg Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 New tactics options..SWEET. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlobaFMB Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 This new things is a brutal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 VAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogset111 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Are these training animations actually going to be in the game? Or have they made them just for the video? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steff13 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 @analogset111 I'm pretty sure that only for the video. But resistance and recovery will be added Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogset111 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Also they seem to be focusing on the 2d match view with all of these videos. Is that because the 3d match engine still has terrible stadiums and crowds? Or are they waiting to reveal some big changes to it later? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altair Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Omg the 3D ME looks exactly the same ten years later. :facepalm: 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, analogset111 said: Also they seem to be focusing on the 2d match view with all of these videos. Is that because the 3d match engine still has terrible stadiums and crowds? Or are they waiting to reveal some big changes to it later? Well I wouldn't think they are going back to 2d, so I imagine there might be a future reveal over 3d. I'd be gutted if it went back to 2d only myself, but I can't see that happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogset111 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Just now, decapitated said: Well I wouldn't think they are going back to 2d, so I imagine there might be a future reveal over 3d. I'd be gutted if it went back to 2d only myself, but I can't see that happening. Didn't think they were going back to 2D only, just that they hadn't posted anything with the 3D engine until just now. Looks very similar! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigaliro Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, analogset111 said: Didn't think they were going back to 2D only, just that they hadn't posted anything with the 3D engine until just now. Looks very similar! Yeah very similar. Really disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbi Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 🤣🤣🤣🤣 told ya! Nothing even touched in 3D animations. Shame! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, zigaliro said: Yeah very similar. Really disappointed. If the fans are all wearing the strips and only the strips again in the stadium, then that is a step backward re crowd immersion! Edited September 27, 2018 by Kazza Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 WTF are them dugouts still doing in there! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, zigaliro said: Yeah very similar. Really disappointed. Slightly disappointing, sure, but its more than made up for several times over with the massive tactical overall. I also like the in-depth tutoring system on first glance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODNAME Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 No new animations to the 3D? Thats really disappointing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altair Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 They really need to focus in a new 3D ME for FM2020. I think it's time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbi Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Improvements for those who play 2D. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigaliro Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, GOODNAME said: No new animations to the 3D? Thats really disappointing They did say 500 new animations. Even tho it still looks similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODNAME Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Just now, zigaliro said: They did say 500 new animations. Even tho it still looks similar. Yeah yeah.. last year they said they added over 1000 new animations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 500 is not a lot in the grand scheme of things, I suspect VAR & Goalline assist accounts for a few of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickz Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, armbi said: Improvements for those who play 2D. What improvements exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saihtam Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Hope VAR decisions are skippable... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legnerschorsch Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Who cares about new looks, changes in training and tactics? They do this every year without any noticeable concept. Often it wasn´t even an improvement. But in regards of the the matchday experience - nothing! I wonder if this will ever look like a real football game. This doesn´t mean it has to look like Fifa. So these are the big new features? It´s preposterous calling this a new version of a game. It´s barely an update. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbi Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, trickz said: What improvements exactly? I meant without improving animations in 3D what is the difference if we got new tactics screen as we won't notice it on the pitch. Ok, you can draw, you can move sliders and that's it, you will never see the representation of this with old match engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 ME sounds the same since 2005; Hope to see more animations when we see much more of the ME. Think SI focused heavily on Tactics and training this year and it was needed. I dont care about the graphics being FIFA like. The player makes a decision every 0.3 seconds or what not; SI HAS to build their own ME and animations in house, as technology cannnot keep up. Its a slow process in regards to the ME and its animations and graphics, but a 5-10% gain every version is amazing imo, considering the complexity of the ME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saihtam Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Just now, Preveza said: ME sounds the same since 2005; Hope to see more animations when we see much more of the ME. Think SI focused heavily on Tactics and training this year and it was needed. I dont care about the graphics being FIFA like. The player makes a decision every 0.3 seconds or what not; SI HAS to build their own ME and animations in house, as technology cannnot keep up. Its a slow process in regards to the ME and its animations and graphics, but a 5-10% gain every version is amazing imo, considering the complexity of the ME. And this is something a lot of people dont understand and overcomplaine about the lack of ME and living under rock with "those" graphics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armistice Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) I like what I saw so far. Edited September 27, 2018 by Armistice 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 @Neil Brock The social media links in the new features revealed thread are all broken. new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristianmehl Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Ugliest UI to this date. Impressive that they were able to make it even worse than last year. Everything else looks fine though. Generally, I dont expect ME changes as they never seem to arrive anyway. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali184 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legnerschorsch Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, armbi said: I meant without improving animations in 3D what is the difference if we got new tactics screen as we won't notice it on the pitch. Ok, you can draw, you can move sliders and that's it, you will never see the representation of this with old match engine. That´s exactly the point. The match engine is way too bad that it could display any sophisticated tactics. Again, it´s not mainly about the quality of the animations. So the tactical overhaul is completely pointless. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm.91 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 This looks so average so far. Ok training and tactics look much improved. But the match engine and stadiums still look horrendous. How did they not include a stadium editor this year? Every stadium should be unique and feel realistic. This game has the same boring generic stadiums this year as they’ve had for the last 5 years. I’m disappointed at this. We have another year of looking forward to playing in 4 stand stadiums with picnic spaces and benches in the corners. Benfica still playing in a 4 stand stadium, no athletic track at the Stadio Olympico for Roma or Lazio...and soooo much more. Incredibly poor effort. But hey, at least we have time consuming VAR and goal line technology in a computer game.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevvy Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Like the sound of most of the changes. Only negative is I'll have to give it a miss as the minimum spec is above what I have! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, saihtam said: And this is something a lot of people dont understand and overcomplaine about the lack of ME and living under rock with "those" graphics. in FM18 watching 3 defenders run in queue like fashion chasing the attacker with ball leaving other attackers free I think is quite a valid complaint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemB Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 The game been the same since 2014 now tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 So far, it can mostly be summed up with this. I'm unlikely to play in the Bundesliga, but licenses are always nice. Training I have never even pretended to be interested in, and it'll be getting delegated anyway. Tactics the same to a lesser extent, although if it becomes more intuitive, I'd probably get on better. Interface...meh. Screenshots don't really tell much, and I'm not as anal as some on it. 18 was fine for me. Manager Induction might be useful, might not be, nobody knows yet. As always, the best improvements to the game will be the ones that don't get talked about. The minor things that all make the experience that little bit better. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali184 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 MATCH ENGINE IS ONE THING, GRAPHIC ENGINE IS ANOTHER THING. You guys really think the match engine couldn't replicate the new tactical instructions because of the "graphic"? Hahahaha...It's not even funny. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luka_zg Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, legnerschorsch said: Who cares about new looks, changes in training and tactics? They do this every year without any noticeable concept. Often it wasn´t even an improvement. But in regards of the the matchday experience - nothing! I wonder if this will ever look like a real football game. This doesn´t mean it has to look like Fifa. So these are the big new features? It´s preposterous calling this a new version of a game. It´s barely an update. You are playing the wrong game. Who cares about training and tactic changes? Really? In a game called Football manager? Go and play Fifa little millenial. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrarinseb Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 IS Sweeper Gone from Game? Good to see Libero in CD area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Screw the haters I love the new features, but this may be more because of how I enjoy the game. Having improvements and overhauls is MUCH more important to me than anything 3D related. Yes in an ideal world the 3D would love much better, but if I wanted to incredible graphics I'd play Fifa. This game is about strategy and managing, not how pretty a player or stadium looks. So happy with training. Be calling for it for at least 3 years now, maybe more. Being able to set up sessions is what management/coaching is all about. And tactics again, great news. Able to set up in and out of possession tactics is marvelous. We all want better graphics, but FM is more than that, way more. SI gives us tons more new features than any Fifa, PES etc...do every year. Proof is the pudding though and we'll find out in 3 weeks or so (BETA) how good the game actually is. But from these feature announcements I'm very excited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
killershrew76 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, analogset111 said: Didn't think they were going back to 2D only, just that they hadn't posted anything with the 3D engine until just now. Looks very similar! I love how the ref just skates over to the sideline like it's 1999 and he's on a playstation 1! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vali184 said: MATCH ENGINE IS ONE THING, GRAPHIC ENGINE IS ANOTHER THING. You guys really think the match engine couldn't replicate the new tactical instructions because of the "graphic"? Hahahaha...It's not even funny. with a limited number of player animations then its a big fact - I agree its not funny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm.91 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, luka_ said: You are playing the wrong game. Who cares about training and tactic changes? Really? In a game called Football manager? Go and play Fifa little millenial. This point has nothing to do with FIFA. If FM choose to release a game with a graphics and Match engine, then they need to be held to account for releasing a game that is poor in respect to those features. FM 2019 looks average and no different to any release from the last 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luka_zg Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, akm.91 said: This point has nothing to do with FIFA. If FM choose to release a game with a graphics and Match engine, then they need to be held to account for releasing a game that is poor in respect to those features. FM 2019 looks average and no different to any release from the last 5 years. If you care about the looks, you're playing the wrong game. sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srvngrc Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I liked the new tactic and training system. I hope both of them will be free of problems. And also hope player interactions and transfer/contract issues are solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legnerschorsch Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, luka_ said: You are playing the wrong game. Who cares about training and tactic changes? Really? In a game called Football manager? Go and play Fifa little millenial. You don´t seem to get that the big tactical overhaul is just a potemkin village as long as the match engine isn´t capable of displaying it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 On 24/09/2018 at 09:24, forameuss said: Tears and snotters on Thursday lunchtime with people's overly lofty expectations being dashed by a few sentences then. Bingo! While these features aren't the ones to make you wet yourself with joy, they're not going to be the things that define the game once it's out. Like I said earlier, the little things they add coming together is always the most interesting part of any release, and even with great features mentioned here, you have no idea what the game is going to be like. In November we could end up with the most balanced ME we've ever had, or it could be an absolute car-crash. Nothing really changes with these announcements, apart from people going proper head's gone. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luka_zg Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, legnerschorsch said: You don´t seem to get that the big tactical overhaul is just a potemkin village as long as the match engine isn´t capable of displaying it. I'm playing 2D and I'm sure it will be displayed just fine. And btw, the ME does not display anything. Edited September 27, 2018 by luka_zg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meebee Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) vor 4 Minuten schrieb akm.91: This point has nothing to do with FIFA. If FM choose to release a game with a graphics and Match engine, then they need to be held to account for releasing a game that is poor in respect to those features. FM 2019 looks average and no different to any release from the last 5 years. Then you should probably play fm 2015. i bet you get it for 5 bucks at ebay uk. its not all about new features, but to ensure fm is kept alive (well, at least thats the main reason why i buy each years version) Edited September 27, 2018 by meebee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemB Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) il y a 5 minutes, forameuss a dit : Bingo! While these features aren't the ones to make you wet yourself with joy, they're not going to be the things that define the game once it's out. Like I said earlier, the little things they add coming together is always the most interesting part of any release, and even with great features mentioned here, you have no idea what the game is going to be like. In November we could end up with the most balanced ME we've ever had, or it could be an absolute car-crash. Nothing really changes with these announcements, apart from people going proper head's gone. People are looking for new; not for small details. The game has been the same since 2014 and its getting boring imo. Edited September 27, 2018 by ClemB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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