Pukey Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 You know it's a clear handball when I've seen literally no debate about it. Even Fabregas basically went "lol yeah it's a penalty" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Russia gonna need to juice up so they don't get knackered after the 75th min and concede multiple goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Pissess me off how Spain waste a talent like Asensio because they want to pass it around walking pace on the half way line. Hope the boring ***** go out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Was Lineker being sarcastic when he said Ramos was another one of Cesc's best mates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Spain have been really one-dimensional with their tika-tika. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Spain look slow and sluggish. I'm interested on the kms covered statistic again. A cynic would say the Russians are indeed on whatever the Spaniards were on around 2008-2012... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Hierro should bring don Andres on and stop being a bigger dud than he already is. Who cares about his conditioning and running power when you're playing against a team like Russia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, pearcey_90 said: Pissess me off how Spain waste a talent like Asensio because they want to pass it around walking pace on the half way line. Hope the boring ***** go out. It's crazy really when you consider these days how few of the Spain team is from the Barca school and used to playing more pragmatic football with their club sides that they still revert to this negative possession football for the national team. I mean really only Busquets and Silva of the front 6 you'd expect to naturally play like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Has to be Silva off for Iniesta in my view. Asensio has been quiet but can at least score out of nothing. Hierro has been far too defensive so far this tournament. Aspas another option. *accidentally hid a similar post in case you can see two similar ones* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Isco the only one doing anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, noikeee said: Spain look slow and sluggish. I'm interested on the kms covered statistic again. A cynic would say the Russians are indeed on whatever the Spaniards were on around 2008-2012... I'd be interested in seeing those this game as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Nordan said: Isco the only one doing anything. Yeah and even then far less direct than in previous games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said: Has to be Silva off for Iniesta in my view. Asensio has been quiet but can at least score out of nothing. Hierro has been far too defensive so far this tournament. Aspas another option. *accidentally hid a similar post in case you can see two similar ones* Not sure they need a 2nd deep CM in Koke either, could bring in Thiago or Saul for him and give them more license to get forward. Or even have Iniesta for Koke and replace Silva with Aspas or Rodrigo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, G-Man11 said: Not sure they need a 2nd deep CM in Koke either, could bring in Thiago or Saul for him and give them more license to get forward. Or even have Iniesta for Koke and replace Silva with Aspas or Rodrigo. Yeah agree. Even looking at Nacho it was another defensive pick there too. I have no knowledge of Hierro as a coach before this tournament but he has been crazily cautious at every chance possible so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Isn't it funny how Dmitri Cheryshev didn't mention that in his interview with the BBC earlier in the programme? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Russia doing all 3 subs early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Yeah Nacho really should be a useful backup who can cover all across the defence and not a starter in this Spain side. Odriozola would offer far more if Carvajal still isn't fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Good choice to bring off Silva. Not sure why Kilbane is surprised. Silva adds nothing to this side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Iniesta finally on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Very reminiscent of Del Bosque bizarrely insisting on Arbeloa over Juanfran in 2012. Didn't work out too bad for him I guess . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Has Iniesta confirmed where he's going yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Baptista_8 said: Has Iniesta confirmed where he's going yet? Yeah, he signed for some club in Japan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Baptista_8 said: Has Iniesta confirmed where he's going yet? Japan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Baptista_8 said: Has Iniesta confirmed where he's going yet? Vissel Kobe, in Japan. He announced it some time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Baptista_8 said: Has Iniesta confirmed where he's going yet? Vissel Kobe in Japan. Kind of weird, as China or USA are the places to go now. Japan was more of a 90's thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Boooooooring, Spain plod it around for 3 minutes and then just give it away, and then do it again. Zzzzz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Another good sub but begs the question of why Hierro thought the line-up he picked was a good one. Edit: ah Nacho injured. Probably lucky then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just woeful stuff, all playing with real fear. It's as if once they put on the Spain shirt they are terrified of what will happen to them if they ever give the ball away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, CFuller said: Vissel Kobe, in Japan. He announced it some time ago. same team as Lukas Podolski as well Russia need to lead for this game to become more interesting, it's just walking pace at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, EnterUsernameHere said: Another good sub but begs the question of why Hierro thought the line-up he picked was a good one. That's what happens when you sack your manager right before the start of the tournament and replace him with a guy with (almost) no management experiance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Orzelek said: That's what happens when you sack your manager right before the start of the tournament and replace him with a guy with (almost) no management experiance Yeah but even then this is amateur stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 This really feels like a nailed on penalty shoot-out atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Not sure Russia can survive ET, feels like Spain are going to **** their way to the final and then get thumped by a France/Brazil/Belgium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 If this goes to extra-time, we might as well prepare for penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, ArsenalFan7 said: Not sure Russia can survive ET, feels like Spain are going to **** their way to the final and then get thumped by a France/Brazil/Germany. I highly doubt Germany will be thumping them, to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, CFuller said: I highly doubt Germany will be thumping them, to be honest. Brain still hasn’t processed it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, ArsenalFan7 said: Not sure Russia can survive ET, feels like Spain are going to **** their way to the final and then get thumped by a France/Brazil/Germany. It's good to see that poeple still believe in Die Nationalelf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Biggest difference between Spain now and at their peak is that they struggle to break down teams with everyone behind the ball. Eight years ago this would be a nailed on 1-0 win. Comfortable, maybe boring, but they'd win. Now you're not sure because they can't create chances and teams aren't as fearful. I think, if they get through, they'll have a better time against Croatia, who won't play like Russia or Iran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Wrong sub. Dzyuba should have stayed for his strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_84 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 How is Koke still on the pitch? He has been crap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 these changes Hierro has made are just dumb, you dont need Koke AND Busquets out there, you probably dont need 4 in defence either, you certainly dont need both of those things together, yet he takes off a striker starved of service as his final change? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Somebody do something please because I don't want another 30 minutes of this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Astafjevs said: Biggest difference between Spain now and at their peak is that they struggle to break down teams with everyone behind the ball. Eight years ago this would be a nailed on 1-0 win. Comfortable, maybe boring, but they'd win. Now you're not sure because they can't create chances and teams aren't as fearful. I think, if they get through, they'll have a better time against Croatia, who won't play like Russia or Iran Not really seen it in this game but they are also a lot more dodgy at the back as well, very hard to seem them 1-0ing games. Even Morocco and Iran caused them all sorts of problems defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, toon_84 said: How is Koke still on the pitch? He has been crap He's been such a let down. Should be a much better player than he's become. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Putin on the phone to the VAR guys there: "don't you dare" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, G-Man11 said: Not really seen it in this game but they are also a lot more dodgy at the back as well, very hard to seem them 1-0ing games. Even Morocco and Iran caused them all sorts of problems defensively. Yes but I think that's maybe linked to the decline in midfield. Xavi/Alonso/Busquets midfield three was WAAAY better at controlling the ball than this midfield. That was their defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, cms186 said: these changes Hierro has made are just dumb, you dont need Koke AND Busquets out there, you probably dont need 4 in defence either, you certainly dont need both of those things together, yet he takes off a striker starved of service as his final change? It's a shame because Lopeetegui had really been working on 3 at the back for Spain for a while now as a an alternative in these sort of matches and then that just went out the window when he was fired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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