pearcey_90 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Not sure which England Pearcey has been watching. We look genuinely quite good and coherent at the moment which is more than I can say for pretty much the rest of the time I have watched England regularly I admit against Scotland we looked much better, seemed to be clicking a lot more going forward and players were surprisingly up for the game which I feel Rooney played a key role in, showing his leadership which I had my doubts at the start but he seems to be revelling in it. Other games we've lacked that urgency and cohesion, and against better sides would be behind and as shown before against better sides when we go behind we rarely win. Could be down to the crap we're having to face so far, but I'd hope for more encouraging performances to be far, don't care that other nations are faltering, that shouldn't paper over we've been poor quite a lot of games despite of winning. As those nations have a track record of turning up for big tournaments, we don't. So need that consistency when arriving as we can't turn it on and off. Amazes me also how slow Hodgson is to put a player into the side. Clyne should have been starting the last round of games, as he showed this one he's head and shoulders above our other right backs. Lambert featuring against Scotland :confused: what did that tell him? It's baffling his subs. My main worry for when we face better sides, is the DM. This is hardly Roy's fault as no one is around atm, but I don't think Wilshere is the man. May be against lesser sides when we have more of the ball, but sides that pressure us more, he's a serious weak link. Not because he's not good enough because he is, but more because that's not the role he ever plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Our fans are better then your fans is so stupid. It's even worse at club level, as if there is any inherent difference between John (the working class, bin man Liverpool fan) and Steve (the working class milkman Man Utd fan). People can be douches. Sometimes they act up at football matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelBrown Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I admit against Scotland we looked much better, seemed to be clicking a lot more going forward and players were surprisingly up for the game which I feel Rooney played a key role in, showing his leadership which I had my doubts at the start but he seems to be revelling in it. Other games we've lacked that urgency and cohesion, and against better sides would be behind and as shown before against better sides when we go behind we rarely win. Could be down to the crap we're having to face so far, but I'd hope for more encouraging performances to be far, don't care that other nations are faltering, that shouldn't paper over we've been poor quite a lot of games despite of winning. As those nations have a track record of turning up for big tournaments, we don't. So need that consistency when arriving as we can't turn it on and off. Amazes me also how slow Hodgson is to put a player into the side. Clyne should have been starting the last round of games, as he showed this one he's head and shoulders above our other right backs. Lambert featuring against Scotland :confused: what did that tell him? It's baffling his subs. My main worry for when we face better sides, is the DM. This is hardly Roy's fault as no one is around atm, but I don't think Wilshere is the man. May be against lesser sides when we have more of the ball, but sides that pressure us more, he's a serious weak link. Not because he's not good enough because he is, but more because that's not the role he ever plays. You raise a good point about the DM and I think it's a debate that needs to be had. Do we stick with Wilshere, or do we go for somebody who can do the graft, do the ''dirty work'' so to speak, but doesn't have the passing and vision that Wilshere has. It's a hard choice, but I would be willing to look at somebody else if it meant we have a better structure when we're not the controlling side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Our fans are better then your fans is so stupid. It's even worse at club level, as if there is any inherent difference between John (the working class, bin man Liverpool fan) and Steve (the working class milkman Man Utd fan). People can be douches. Sometimes they act up at football matches.I wasn't comparing, I was stating that the English fans on Tuesday were vile. There is no comparison with the Scottish fans to be made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 [video=youtube_share;mU_qMiZSMsA] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Missing a few quality defenders, but a lot of the youngsters are looking really good this season. Sturridge and Kane up front with Sterling behind could be pretty deadly. Really need a defensive midfielder too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Missing a few quality defenders, but a lot of the youngsters are looking really good this season.Sturridge and Kane up front with Sterling behind could be pretty deadly. Really need a defensive midfielder too... Dont want Kane called up yet, would rather he had some proper tournament action in the Under 21s this summer than a pointless summer friendly. Have to recall Carrick if fit, because there isn't really anyone else who is actually any good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 It appears James Ward-Prowse may be getting a senior England call-up tomorrow... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/englands-hodgson-set-rest-liverpool-5359418 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I like JWP but why the rush? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 He'd give England Beckham-lite corner and free kick delivery, has an eye for a pass and is future captain material. I suppose they may want to look at him close up in the senior team environment for a friendly but continue using him for the under 21's in the summer. Ryan Bertrand getting a recall to join Clyne and Forster in the squad would make more sense at the moment. He has been better than the likes of Rose, Shaw, Gibbs or Cresswell this season. Yet in polls Sky do for England left backs they ignore Bertrand completely as an option. Bertrand is clearly doing something well considering he is a key part of the best defensive record in the league after 29 games, so to rule him out as an option is odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 PA journalist thinks Ward-Prowse won't be called up, but still thinks there'll be three Southampton players. Which would suggest Clyne, Forster and a possible recall for Bertrand... Simon Peach @ SimonPeach 17m17 minutes agoWill be at Wembley for the England squad announcement tomorrow. Roy Hodgson's press conference slated for 12.30pm.1 retweet3 favoritesReply Retweet1 Favorite3More Simon Peach @ SimonPeach 23m23 minutes agoSuspect there could be as many as three # SaintsFC players in the England squad tomorrow, but not expecting Ward-Prowse to be one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Bertrand is the best LB in England. Had he been given an opportunity at Chelsea then he would be regarded as one of the best LB in Europe. Wouldn't take one LB in the prem over him. So annoyed Mourinho shipped him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I like JWP but why the rush? Agree and also, I'd be surpried is Ward-Prowse was anywhere near the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I know he had a shocker against United but I'd like to see Dier called up for this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG17 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Ward-Prowse doesn't deserve a call up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 We don't need to call up players and then leave them out the next squad. It's good for some young players to be around the squad and train but I think the ones ready to make that step. Berahino, no problem, even if he doesn't make the next squad was a decent choice Not sure about Dier, think he needs to concentrate on U21 (is he still in for that?) and no JWP for same reason. He's not ready for the full squad yet I think we're almost certain that Lambert won't be in the squad from now on either and Kane has to be called up now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 If there are U21 players that won't likely start the Lithuania game then they may as well play for the U21s in their qualifier and then get brought in for the Italy friendly after Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Three left-backs? Apart from that, looks good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 How long till Carrick pulls out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Three left-backs? Apart from that, looks good. Should have left Shaw with the u21s and brought in Young, but assume he's keen to have Shaw training with the seniors as much as possible and getting lots of exposure with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 so after all them MLG Bertrand posts, theres 3 left backs and not one of them is Bertrand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Spiral Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Gibbs over Bertrand is a joke tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 How long till Carrick pulls out? so true 3 left backs reeks of 'oops, can't think of anymore centre backs' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpillBlood Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Gibbs over Bertrand is a joke tbf Agreed. So is three left backs. Young deserves a recall tbf. Would of like to see Austin or Berahino aswell but Welbeck does it for Woy, not sure how well Sturridge has done since he's returned. For some reason I can't help but think a midfielder looks missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Wilshere. Welbeck does it for England tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Sturridge is fine, he's been pretty decent since he came back Yeah, I agree, does seem a midfielder light and I think Townsend is maybe getting auto-entry as he's been in recent squads, not sure he's been great recently, has he? I think there's a core group anyway and then a few spots genuinely up for grabs and Townsend seems to be in that group of 'international quality' I think there's a spot up for grabs in next year or so there but he's always done well for England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Should have left Shaw with the u21s and brought in Young, but assume he's keen to have Shaw training with the seniors as much as possible and getting lots of exposure with the. Meh, Young He's been good for England before and playing well for United but I'd rather wait and see how he is between now and next squad. Not sure he'll be in squads in 2 years time and get back to his old form. I doubt he'll start so think I'd prefer someone younger/else in the 'squad but not playing' slot, for now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Townsend No Ings, no Bertrand? Don't need three left backs, it makes no sense for a match against Lithuania. Standard missed opportunity to mix things up and test out some options. Bertrand and Clyne should be England's full back pairing, but that IS from a biased point of view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I doubt we'll be testing much against Lithuania, points are at stake still no matter how 'easy' it is It wouldn't surprise me if one of those left backs didn't feature at all across both games (probably Shaw) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Picking 3 LB's is classic Hodgson though. I remember a few squads where for example a right winger has pulled out and he's called up a CB to replace him. Just strange :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I usually hate the old "He's only in there because of who he plays for" line but its never been more apt than with Luke Shaw, utterly baffling inclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 He's probably not gonna use them all though anyway. It's not like 'OMG look who the 5th striker is'!! Especially for a qual, not a tournament Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 3 LBS?! :confused: Just don't understand that one bit, and one of them isn't even arguably the form LB this season. Townsend, ffs. As long as Woy is manager that guy will always be in the squad regardless of form, such a joke. Would have liked to seen one less LB, one more striker (call up for either Austin or Ings) and Townsend out and someone else in. Do we have any other 'upcoming CBs'? As for me Jagielka needs leaving out, been dreadful this season and he wasn't really the best anyway, and I can't see him improving leading to the Euros. Him and Cahil as a partnership gives me kittens against any national side that has a half decent forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 3 LBS?! :confused: Just don't understand that one bit, and one of them isn't even arguably the form LB this season.Townsend, ffs. As long as Woy is manager that guy will always be in the squad regardless of form, such a joke. Would have liked to seen one less LB, one more striker (call up for either Austin or Ings) and Townsend out and someone else in. Do we have any other 'upcoming CBs'? As for me Jagielka needs leaving out, been dreadful this season and he wasn't really the best anyway, and I can't see him improving leading to the Euros. Him and Cahil as a partnership gives me kittens against any national side that has a half decent forward. Stones and erm...think that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Every international manager we have has always had players in there considered good enough that will always feature. You can't build an international side changing 12 players every squad Not sure Townsend deserves that right now but he probably earned Roy's trust with some important performances/goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I usually hate the old "He's only in there because of who he plays for" line but its never been more apt than with Luke Shaw, utterly baffling inclusion. You could switch out Luke Shaw with Kieran Gibbs in that sentence and it still would be just as true. 3 left backs but no Bertrand and Stones not called up (probably because hes in the u21s) is baffling. Also wouldn't go for Delph when Villa has been bad all season and Delph isn't helping that well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Stones and erm...think that's it. Dier? Chambers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 No Ashley Young Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I love that I can look at that and honestly say Jordan Henderson is one of the first names on that team sheet. So proud of how well he is doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I love that I can look at that and honestly say Jordan Henderson is one of the first names on that team sheet. So proud of how well he is doing. Wayne Rooney. Captain starts no matter what and no matter where. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 one of... one of... Rooney, Hart, Cahill and Henderson are pretty much only guaranteed starters. Sterling at a push. Sturridge not certain on current form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I love that I can look at that and honestly say Jordan Henderson is one of the first names on that team sheet. So proud of how well he is doing. A see your pride and raise you a bunch of **** players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 You could switch out Luke Shaw with Kieran Gibbs in that sentence and it still would be just as true. 3 left backs but no Bertrand and Stones not called up (probably because hes in the u21s) is baffling. Also wouldn't go for Delph when Villa has been bad all season and Delph isn't helping that well. True and a lot of people don't want Delph in the squad either but atleast hes fit and playing week in week out and has improved over the last few weeks, i accept Delph is a debatable one but Shaw isn't really even debatable is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Townsend, Barkley and 3 left backs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Didn't realise Kyle Walker was still a thing. Only 2 keepers in the squad too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Hodgson ****ing hell, what a poor squad select. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Hodgson ****ing hell, what a poor squad select. Give us your 24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I like Andros, I've no problem with him getting a call up. Should call up players who will fit the team and style, not on league form. Roy has done pretty well so far tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I like him as well. He's very direct and has skill, a great option for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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