Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 22, 2014 Administrators Share Posted October 22, 2014 [video=youtube;H4J752MNCcA] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak71 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Wow, the 3d animation looks stunning. Happy for it and glad that i pre-ordered. Just hoping for 2 things though. Firstly, the placement of the photographer. In FM2014, they're placed in front of the advertisement board. Secondly, the positioning of the steward and police-man (?) in FM15 Feature Video. It seems that they were stepping on the advertisement board. Failed to see it happening in this video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
endtime Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I really hope the release version is improved with regards to "ice skating", it's very noticeable in this footage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInvisibleMan Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Looks really good to me. I've continued to play 2D up until 2014 due to just not being able to pull myself away from it but this could be year I switch! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Nice improvements all around. With some more tweaks over time this will be more than fantastic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I like little things like the crowd animations - there is much more variety and individual movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDavis95 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Shooting, passing and goalkeepers look like a good improvement. Did anyone else think that dribbling looked really bad? Appeared laggy like the players couldn't move with the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I love the keeper animations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I really hope the release version is improved with regards to "ice skating", it's very noticeable in this footage. "Ice skating" is a limitation of the platform and not of the animation team, so you should not anticipate much change ahead of the Beta release. in overly simplistic terms, there needs to be a degree of friction with the pitch in order for movement to occur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I reckon the "ice skating" will be mostly gone when the full release comes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Looks boss tbh. Can't wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Looks great, seems like you've done a great job yet again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QWERTYOP Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I found the ball really hard to follow for about the first 30 seconds worth of clips. That's worrying. And the players appear to be fond of waving their arms around when walking this year. Which is strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Defenders defending properly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnack Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Give me this game now or I will die of stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akkm Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Improvements: - Motion capture has worked in that animations have enabled better representation of human movement - First touch noticeably better than last year which is great Improvement still required - Ball physics still off - Movement of players can still look slow and ‘laggish’ - Player turning on spot is very unnatural and happens in slow motion - Still that slow/quick slow/quick motion of the play as if things are not harmonised to unfold naturally ie looks like different elements of movement are joined together at different speeds Overall it looks much better than last year and even on all the 'improvements still required' in themselves you can see some much needed improvements on last year which is good The ice skating was diabolical last year and really irritating to watch but to be fair it looks a lot better there so far at least. It seems to be a very difficult fix and even though its disappointing that it will take a while to eradicate it is enouraging to see the improvement/progress on that footage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedinho Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's still a mystery if the wingers understand what the term "cut inside" means... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Defenders defending properly I know No nasty passes into the channel between DC and full back, plus lots of good blocked crosses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's still a mystery if the wingers understand what the term "cut inside" means... Isn't that what an Inside Forward is for? :confused: Wingers have instructions locked to Stay Wide as it is a trait of the Role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treble_yell_:-) Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 "Ice skating" is a limitation of the platform and not of the animation team, so you should not anticipate much change ahead of the Beta release.in overly simplistic terms, there needs to be a degree of friction with the pitch in order for movement to occur. What do you mean by limitation of the platform ? Did you mean to say it's a limitation of the graphics engine ? Is that the official word on the matter or your opinion ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twellman24 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I love the guy that tried to sneak in a cross right before the ball went out of bounds, looks promising! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 What do you mean by limitation of the platform ? Did you mean to say it's a limitation of the graphics engine ? Is that the official word on the matter or your opinion ? It has official foundations but has probably been badly articulated by non-technical me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyro Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It definitely looks much better. Movements are much improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treble_yell_:-) Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The new animations are pretty nice , definitely an improvement. While apparent , the Ice Skating doesn't seem as bad in most that video , there were only a few occasions where there was a weird animation or lack of animation so it looked like the player was moving with feet planted (thus "skating"). All in all the mo-capped animations certainly are s step up from the robot men of old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The tight quarters movement is still poor, but that's understandable, that's fine detail stuff, very hard to implement on an engine designed for poor spec computers. Upper body and arm movement looks a massive improvement, while the goalkeepers are a huge upgrade! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawlore Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Ice-skating aside, which as others have said is very, very noticeable in these clips, it does look like a step forward. The goalkeepers in particular look nice, and I can only assume that's a benefit of the mo-cap. That said, 1:13 confuses me- the striker is dribbling as if he's running through treacle, despite the pitch being plush and green. The only other point I'd make is that the keeper in grey around 1:53 gets that ball an awfully long way considering he doesn't really put any power behind his kick- it's more like a little dink than a clearance. But, for a work in progress, this is definitely encouraging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I don't care how it looks as long as the gameplay match engine is better than ever before. Though 3D match engine does look better that ever before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedinho Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Isn't that what an Inside Forward is for? :confused:Wingers have instructions locked to Stay Wide as it is a trait of the Role. No need to be confused there, RTHerringBone, of course I was refering to the wingers with the IF role. You know, just like a central midfielder isn't necessarily playing the central midfielder role? I'm sure you understand. The ME looks kind of promising though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Love the goalkeepers tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Looks good to me. Great goal at the end, lovely strike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcx Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Looks great to me. Some people seem far too concerned with aesthetics with FM, its not and never will be Fifa! As long as the ME gives accurate feedback of the game as its happening and you can see your idea's coming together on the pitch (be them right or wrong!) then great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
handy500 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Tackling stills needs to improve it seems they still don't know how to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikulec Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I like the tactical look of this, creating space and moving off the ball looks more realistic than ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Not really studied the video but his time around is there actually a MANAGER in the dugout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickda1 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 hi where in steam do i enter the beta activation code i pre ordered it from game yesterday but in the e-mail they sent me they didnt give me any instructions on where you enter the code im stuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Launch the Steam client > Click 'Games' in the top left hand corner > From the drop down menu click 'Activate a product on Steam' > follow the onscreen instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickda1 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Cheers mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickda1 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 is it right i can't use the beta till its released? this seems silly as i understand we get early access beta which is before release i feel duped lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 is it right i can't use the beta till its released? this seems silly as i understand we get early access beta which is before release i feel duped lol Beta is still prior to the full release. That's the earliness that you aren't being duped about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 You get access to the beta once it has released, SI have said it will be 'around' 2 weeks before the actual release, I would say the smart money is on it starting before the weekend but nothing official just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickda1 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Cheers rthHerringbone and daylight cannot wait to play it:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOA Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Looks fantastic, although I can't understand the negative comments about the video, it's never going to be a FIFA and as long as I can see the deficiencies in my team and players I'm happy. The last FM I played was 2D which I still think is fantastic and currently playing CM01/02 with match commentary! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartdude Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 What's with the weird ape-like arm positions ?? Apart from that looking pretty good ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 What's with the weird ape-like arm positions ?? Apart from that looking pretty good ! where? i didnt noticed that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QWERTYOP Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I mentioned the arms in post 13. They're distractingly weird. Very flappy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 i agree about ball. after that one cross i didnt know where is ball going... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paco Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 For me its unwatchable when close-up like in the video. I always set it to elevated cam to avoid the "ice skating" and jerky camera movement. Looks like that I'll have to do the same this year. The up side is that the elevated view makes it easier to see the tactical effeects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 thats why i often use 2D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalist123 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Defenders look much improved ^^. But midfielders look confused when defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Underwhelmed. Movements look even less natural than before to me plus ice-skating players and ball. Nothing to boast. Keeping in mind that any pre-release footage so far looked way worse than the finished thing, I shall however keep quiet and wait with my final judgment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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