foofighter23 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 thought it was wigan? but yeah found myself thinking the same before. was actually thinking this week does rodgers actually believe our defence is good enough with all these attacking players we're linked with?! likes been said theyve embarrassed themselves more than a few times this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I didnt go thank god. I heard Ince was at the ground today well when I say I heard apparently it was all over twitter though I not been on to check. Could have had Everton next round at Anfield as well yeah there is a photo of him there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I am starting to have doubts about Skrtel. Jones, a GK that struggles to catch/hold a ball. I can not believe that i said he should be given a chance if Pepe goes. We were really poor in midfield, well more weak than poor and Coates got bullied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I was so happy to see misery piled on Jones. Hated the way he just went to attack Simspon after that 50/50 challenge. Counts for Skrtrl too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I was so happy to see misery piled on Jones. Hated the way he just went to attack Simspon after that 50/50 challenge. Counts for Skrtrl too 50/50? He caught him in the shoulder with his studs. Not what I'd call a 50/50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Think he went in with unnecessary force. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Really enjoyed that match despite the result. Won't be disappointed at going out as long we finish in a respectable position in the league. If we don't, then I'll be gutted to have missed out on a cup run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Think Rodgers got that wrong today personally. Having said that the players need to have a look at themselves as our starting team was good enough to win that comfortably. Hopefully Coutinho coming will mean we never seen Downing pull on a Liverpool shirt again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Downing was hardly the problem today, and on recent performances should be in the starting xi ahead of Sterling or Borini Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipidus Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 @philmcnulty: Liverpool boss Rodgers "bitterly disappointed with the young players" in Oldham defeat - but also had £38m worth of his own signings in team Will stay reasonably silent until i see the context for this, but if its as straightforward as the snippet suggests, Im done with Rodgers. Blaming his own shortcomings, which put us on the back foot to begin with, on the youth? No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Think Rodgers got that wrong today personally. Having said that the players need to have a look at themselves as our starting team was good enough to win that comfortably. Hopefully Coutinho coming will mean we never seen Downing pull on a Liverpool shirt again. Downing hasnt been playing poorly the last few months. and as long as that continues you will see LOTS of Steeeeeeeewie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullem Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Coates is hilariously bad, I could do a better job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Will stay reasonably silent until i see the context for this, but if its as straightforward as the snippet suggests, Im done with Rodgers. Blaming his own shortcomings, which put us on the back foot to begin with, on the youth? No thanks. I think his interview was terrible, laying the blame at the feet of young players (some of whom have less than 50 games in their career under their belts) and not acknowledging once his own part in this shambles. Gone right down in my estimation after reading that, a manager should take responsibility not pass the buck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 shouldnt every one of the youngsters we played today be able to walk into the Oldham first team and dominate League 1 is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Bring in Diame to salvage something from the defence. Bring in a proper central defender in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 What did he get wrong though? Unless you know something we don't his initial selection seemed to make sense, I think the players let him down honestly. Coates/Skertel/Robinson/Jones all looked totally out fought and that's what cost us. He played with only 2 midfielders. And neither were ball winners so immediately took a gamble there hoping the 4 attackers would do the business but they didn't and Oldham bossed the midfield as they had no pressure or any tackles in them. Wasn't until Gerrard came on that he started making tackles in that middle and put pressure on them that the game started to turn Liverpools way but game was over by than. I never understand why managers rest players than bring them on :/ If you wasn't going to start them than don't play them. If anything start them, get job done and take them off for last 30. Not having a dig at Liverpool or anyone but for me today once again showed that without Suarez/Gerrard Liverpool in my eyes are no where near a top 4 team. As Suarez was only one that produced some magic for the equaliser, where as Gerrard once again was Liverpools driving inspiration force. They really need to find a player that can take some of the pressure of Gerrard, as Gerrard can't deliver all the time at his age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipidus Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I think his interview was terrible, laying the blame at the feet of young players (some of whom have less than 50 games in their career under their belts) and not acknowledging once his own part in this shambles. Gone right down in my estimation after reading that, a manager should take responsibility not pass the buck. Yeah, pretty much my qualms with the situation. Firstly, if youre going to slate the team, slate the team as a whole. It was a 30 year full international in Brad Jones who basically dropped the ball into the net, for example, yet he seemingly escapes blame if we're to go by the quotes. You dont pick out inexperienced players and put the blame with them. Terrible man management. More importantly is the fact that Rodgers got it completely wrong today. Going into a game against lower league opposition with a midfield two, and it was quite literally a midfield two, of Allen and Henderson is nothing more than a recipe for disaster. I wouldnt fancy them two against a ball playing team, never mind a team who are likely to rely on aggression, power and more than two men in midfield. Thats not to say the players should be absolved of all blame, but they were on a hiding to nothing with the set up rodgers insisted on. His signings are starting to show that they arent up to scratch either. Both Borini and Allen look woefully out of place, and Sturridge missed a pretty good chance, and thats not even mentioning the lucky offside he got when he tried to dink the keeper. Also worth remembering that Hodgson had a scarily similar rant post-Northampton debacle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Yeah, pretty much my qualms with the situation. Firstly, if youre going to slate the team, slate the team as a whole. It was a 30 year full international in Brad Jones who basically dropped the ball into the net, for example, yet he seemingly escapes blame if we're to go by the quotes. You dont pick out inexperienced players and put the blame with them. Terrible man management.More importantly is the fact that Rodgers got it completely wrong today. Going into a game against lower league opposition with a midfield two, and it was quite literally a midfield two, of Allen and Henderson is nothing more than a recipe for disaster. I wouldnt fancy them two against a ball playing team, never mind a team who are likely to rely on aggression, power and more than two med in midfield. Thats not to say the players should be absolved of all blame, but they were on a hiding to nothing with the set up rodgers insisted on. His signings are started to show that they arent up to scratch either. Both Borini and Allen look woefully out of place, and Sturridge missed a pretty good chance, and thats not even mentioning the lucky offside he got when he tried to dink the keeper. Also worth remembering that Hodgson had a scarily similar rant post-Northampton debacle. I was surprised we didn't defend higher up the pitch to be honest to not only nulify their target man's influence on the game but also to ensure our attacking players were closer to their goal. In the first half hour we were terrible and sat far too deep and looked stretched. It was only in the second half when they got a 2 goal lead and sat back did we then decide to step up and put pressure on them, but ny then it was too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 There are two handles on the FA cup, but Liverpool will never Oldham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Never ever? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Didn't Fergie say something along them lines last season when they beat Crawley in the F.A cup?? Something like reporter: what will your players(or young players) have learnt today? Fergie: Me loosing my temper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'm sure behind closed doors the players will be getting a bollocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Just read the Rodgers interview, some bad quotes in there. Needs to look at himself before having a good at teenagers. 2 in midfield today was a poor decision. As others have said play the first team, get the game won then take off players needing a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Think some of them needed telling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoolFan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Just read the Rodgers interview, some bad quotes in there. Needs to look at himself before having a good at teenagers. 2 in midfield today was a poor decision. As others have said play the first team, get the game won then take off players needing a rest. I don't see the problem with Rodgers having a go at the players including the teenagers. They all need to step up and take responsibility, Coates isn't some teenage kid in his first game, he should have done a LOT better. Same goes for Robinson and the rest, they weren't playing world beaters so being disappointed with a totally inept performance is to be expected. I'm not solely blaming the players, Rodgers needs to learn from his mistakes just as the younger players do. Seems like stardom has gone to Sterlings head and he needs to be chopped down a few levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipidus Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 For me, its more the obliviousness to his own shortcomings today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 For me today's game was not one to use players who lack experience against lower league teams, or haven't got the physical attributes to stand up against the ones playing for Oldham today. On a wet and windy Sunday afternoon in Oldham I'd easily have put in Carragher ahead of Coates, maybe Agger instead of Robinson. Our midfield options are limited, because we would ideally save Lucas and Gerrard for Arsenal on Wednesday, but as has been said a midfield 2 of Allen and Henderson won't win you anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoolFan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 For me, its more the obliviousness to his own shortcomings today. Well as I said, as long as he learns from this then it will be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Playing a League 1 team, these younger players should be doing better. They should have also been more fired up and have higher work rates rather than telling people to '**** off' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 First time we seemed to not have a game plan, few players seemed to not want to pass it about in fear of losing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Thought Rodgers was well within his rights to single out the younger players. Robinson, Coates both had absolutely shocking games. Didn't think the team we sent out was wrong in any way, but we simply didn't get the ball down and play - we gave it away to them at every opportunity so it played right into their tactics. Robinson's poor attitude was amazing. Think he forgot who the captain was? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 How often do managers publicly blame themselves? No idea what some people are expecting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 you guys need a new goalie? he would fit right in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Robinson would not kick a ball for this club again if it was up to me. The performance was bad but the attitude was shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 haha robinson getting all this stick for daring to back chat the golden boy. he's a young kid who had a bad day at the office, he's done fine when he's had the opportunity's before, to suddenly go to the extreme of 'never kicking a ball for the club again' ffs. have a look at yourself. if we binned every youngster after one bad showing then we may aswell fold. as for the game overall i thought rodgers was way too attack minded, it was basically a 4-2-4. think everyone had a **** game though so that hardly helped things. coates was a shambles and they targeted him throughout the game. borini had another game where he went hiding and i thought sturridge was really sloppy in the last 30 minutes, he kept passing it to an oldham player. gerrard should've scored when it was pulled back to him too. **** day. wanted to win it this year. hopefully it'll be a kick up the arse for wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Hall Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I honestly have no idea how Brad Jones is a Premier League goalkeeper, for anyone never alone Liverpool (as much as I like to take the **** out of you guys). He wouldn't make my top 5 Australian goalkeepers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 is doni still on compassionate leave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 haha robinson getting all this stick for daring to back chat the golden boy. he's a young kid who had a bad day at the office, he's done fine when he's had the opportunity's before, to suddenly go to the extreme of 'never kicking a ball for the club again' ffs. have a look at yourself. if we binned every youngster after one bad showing then we may aswell fold.as for the game overall i thought rodgers was way too attack minded, it was basically a 4-2-4. think everyone had a **** game though so that hardly helped things. coates was a shambles and they targeted him throughout the game. borini had another game where he went hiding and i thought sturridge was really sloppy in the last 30 minutes, he kept passing it to an oldham player. gerrard should've scored when it was pulled back to him too. **** day. wanted to win it this year. hopefully it'll be a kick up the arse for wednesday. If you think his attitude, and the way he mouthed off was okay, then I'd say it was you that needs to have a look at himself. This isn't ****ing pub football, and you don't tell senior players to "**** off", especially after you've just had an absolute shocker. Can you imagine a youngster reacting like that at Man U? He wouldn't last 5mins and that's exactly how it should be. And you've misinterpreted me. He shouldn't be kicked out for playing poorly, he should be kicked out for playing that poorly and then showing absolute contempt for senior players by telling them to **** off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Of course it's not okay, but that needs a word from BR, not him kicking out the club FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Of course it's not okay, but that needs a word from BR, not him kicking out the club FFS. Well that's where you and me differ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 do you think this is the first time two teammates have ever had a altercation before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 One is a reserve team player and the other was a senior captain so it's hardly two team mates having an 'altercation'. I have zero tolerance for what happened and you and some others obviously feel differently. We're never going to agree so lets just leave it at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 the only reason you are spazzing out about it is because it was so visible on tv. zero tolerance ffs :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I feel for Robinson though in that game. As he had Coates alongside him who you would have thought was the younger of the two players and infront of him he had either the lazy Sterling or Borini so was offered little protection when being attacked by a full back on loan from City. From a neutral i feel Liverpool could do nothing wrong in buying Diame. £3.5m, and he is a powerful center midfielder who can easily fill any void left by Gerrard when rested. As it has been no secret this season you've been physically weak in some games, and Diame would change this to some degree. As Coutinho is a potentially decent signing but running the danger of becoming top heavy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 One is a reserve team player and the other was a senior captain so it's hardly two team mates having an 'altercation'. I have zero tolerance for what happened and you and some others obviously feel differently. We're never going to agree so lets just leave it at that. do you think this is the first time they have had an altercation like this this season? Also this whole Suarez was captain don't mouth off to him is ridiculous this isn't Rugby or Cricket where the role actually has some meaning other than ceremonial. He may have been right or wrong but you shouldn't create a situation where the senior players are raised to a pedestal which will create fear for the younger players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 From a neutral i feel Liverpool could do nothing wrong in buying Diame. £3.5m, and he is a powerful center midfielder who can easily fill any void left by Gerrard when rested. As it has been no secret this season you've been physically weak in some games, and Diame would change this to some degree. As Coutinho is a potentially decent signing but running the danger of becoming top heavy. Aye been plenty of mentions of him in here, really is a bargain at that price. It's a pity Napoli are doing so well this year or I wouldn't mind going for Inler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Thank **** some of you don't run our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 ha, yeah, far better if we had someone who kicked out a kid who's been at the club for ten years already for mouthing off at another player one time. that's a much better idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 dking is a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 is doni still on compassionate leave? is that a wind up if not it was covered a couple of pages ago. No one really knows the story it appears he is in Miami, sounds like he is going to be paid off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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