Apologies for the long post, just been reading a Liverpool forum (not RAWK) and this post explained the way I and many other feel about Rodgers and the current situation. Sums up a lot of my issues with the current regime as a whole. Not posting this to have a go at Rodgers, as I say I think he should be give more time, thought is was just a really good post.
Re: Brendan Rodgers
« Reply #2933 on: February 13, 2013, 01:07:17 PM »
To be honest I don’t want Rodgers sacked, not because I think he is going to come good rather it is because I don’t trust Ayre, Henry & Werner one iota to get it right.
Let’s face it EVERY appointment/decision made by FSG has been an unmitigated disaster.
They kept Hodgson for too long what it was apparent he was not good enough, indeed most of us had made our minds up before they had even taken over the club. *However they took the best part of 3 months to make a decision and even then it was down to that night at Ewood Park.
They appoint the people’s choice, Kenny Dalglish, on a temporary basis and to their horror he exceeds their expectations meaning that they have no choice but to offer the old, unmedia-friendly Scot the position full-time. *They didn’t want Dalglish longer than 6 months and were forced into giving him the job because of the results and the fans.
As regards the events of the January 2011 transfer window, no one will convince me that Kenny convinced Henry and co. to spend £35m on Andy Carroll. *There is no organisation in the world that would allow a temporary manager to make a decision like that. *He no doubt said yes to having him, but the £35m is down to Comolli, Henry, Ayre and Werner. *Of course Kenny the club man is going to agree with the partyline that he was privy to the decision to spend this huge amount. *The club were desperate, we were losing Torres and only had the then unproven Suarez and David N’Gog as it’s strikers. *They were definitely caught with their pants down.
As regards Carroll now I was as shocked as anyone when we spent £35m but as I recall Spurs had a £28m bid rejected by Newcastle so it seems that was the going rate for him. *I also understand that Rafa tried to buy him whilst he was a Newcastle reserve player but they wanted £5m for a player yet to make his senior debut.
Summer 2011’s transfer were let’s say unspectacular, however the likes of Henderson, Enrique and Downing are showing signs of finally settling in. *Shock, horror players take time to settle at new, bigger club. *Who’d have thunk it?
We were spoilt in 1987 as Barnes not only hit the ground running, he picked up the ground and made it an art form. *Beardsley, as good as he was, took almost 6 months to start playing like we know he can. *However Barnes was that good, he covered up for Beardsley’s less than inspiring start.
I still can’t believe that fans turned on Kenny. *Here was a man who picked us up after Heysel and made us double winners. *
A little story. I work with a guy who doesn’t rate Kenny as a manager. *When you say 85/86 or 87/88 all he says is “Paisley’s team.” *I kid you not. *He didn’t want Dalglish as manager as he didn’t rate him others didn’t want him because he “was out of touch”, “been out of the game too long” and that “the game had moved on since he was a manager”.
A great man once said “football is a simple game complicated by idiots.” *
The rules are the same, score more goals than the opposition. *The only change since the last time Kenny was the manager and his second spell was the influx of foreign players. *Alan Hansen once said that when it came to knowing players there was no one better than Kenny. *
Do you think this knowledge stopped at the White Cliffs of Dover?
Alan Shearer said Dalglish was the best manager he had ever worked with, “he gets inside your head and makes you believe you are a better player” and “I was a better player after my first day working with him” are quotes attributed to the former England number 9.
Now think about this – we sack our greatest player, one of our greatest managers and appoint the manager of Swansea after ONE SEASON IN THE TOP FLIGHT.
This is a man who was sacked by Reading, however he “has worked for Mourinho” as if that means anything. *The Chelsea tea lady is awaiting the call from Buckingham Palace as she too “worked for the special one”.
“Tika taka football” is his mantra, yet Liverpool played pass & move for all of Paisley’s reign, Fagan’s and even Dalglish’s. *It is not an alien concept to Anfield, yet if you listen to Rodgers and some of our fans he’s a visionary who has introduced it to the club!
It is all smoke & mirrors. *Granted he is more media-savvy & friendly than Dalglish. *I mean where is the criticism over our performances in the national media? *Had a certain rotund Spanish genius presided over this he’d have been ridiculed and mocked, the same goes for Dalglish. *However Rodgers is “Teflon Brendan” when it comes to the press and some of our fans.
“He was left with Dalglish’s/Rafa’s mess” you mean Suarez, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Carragher, Agger Skrtel, Reina, Henderson, Enrique? *No team with that quality of player should be floundering in mid-table and getting beat at home by West Brom.
We have gone backwards at a rate of knots. *The league table doesn’t lie, the football is not better and Fabio Borini will never be a 20+ goal a season striker while I have a hole in my rectum.
The new mantra is “he needs new defenders” and “we will have to wait until the summer.” *I heard this last night, seriously.
Kenny and Clarke never had a problem with the defence, in fact West Brom’s manager had us well-organised and solid. *Under Pascoe we are softer than Charles Hawtrey’s weedy brother!
I fully expect we’ll see Agger or Skrtel dispensed with in the summer and a clogger like Ashley “I want to punch Luis Suarez” Williams brought in. *The problem isn’t the personnel it’s the fact that we have the organisation structure of a house of cards on a foundation of sand in a hurricane.
All I hear is excuses and how we shouldn’t replace him because the club needs stability now. *It needed stability in the summer and it didn’t get it, why does it need it now? *
If the manager isn’t up to the task, and the evidence seems to suggest he isn’t, then surely we shouldn’t just keep him on for the sake of it as some are suggesting?
Kenny Dalglish is a perfectly capable manager, and had done more by the age of 40 than Rodgers can dream of. *He was dispensed with, why not Rodgers?
Oh and another thing. *“If Dalglish was that good he’d still be our manager” I read the other day. *Well that one worked for Rafa Benitez didn’t it? *He was a good manager who was sacked by people who know-nothing about football, like Kenny. *A straw man argument if I have ever heard one.
The Livepool job is one of the biggest in the world, yet Henry & Ayre would have you believe that the only candidates were Martinez and Rodgers. *That is like being asked “would you like Cancer or Aids?”
FSG and Ayre have fooled us into believing we are not top drawer enough, we are. *What they want is a “yes man” they can bully and one that won’t rock the boat.
The likes of Dalglish, Benitez, Van Gaal and De Boer are picky, prickly perfectionists who will not sit idly by whilst the club suffers a summer transfer window like that last one (Carroll out and no replacement). *They’d have been in Ayre’s office laying into him, if it was Shankly he’d have him by the throat. *
The reason they wanted Rodgers is because his inexperience means he won’t rock the boat, plus he is that grateful for being massively over-promoted he’ll sit by whilst Ayre & Henry let Anfield burn.
I just have absolutely no faith in anyone above the players at that club (besides Borrell). *Remember too that the club lost Pep Segura too ultimately because of Rodgers and his desire not to have a Director of Football.
In the space of 4 years we have replaced perfectly capable and quality managers with massively inferior ones, not once but twice now. *It really depresses me.