Emersonlfc Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Twitter going crazy about a row between Skrtel and Rodgers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Twitter going crazy about a row between Skrtel and Rodgers. I've seen that too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think if as a fan you feel the team desperately needs more experience in certain areas then it's not really an issue to expect that to be resolved. we've only got 4 players aged 23-27, one of whom has hardly played and 2 of which I wouldn't be overly surprised to see leave in the summer. that is a massive gap for me, there should ideally probably be around a third of our squad in that group, and may cause transitional problems further down the line. i mean, it already is, no Gerrard and no Lucas and the midfield looks a bit of a mess. Signing someone like Diame is a bit of a no brainer for me. It's all okay trying to develop the kids but they will develop much faster and to a better level if they have better plays around them playing winning football. I'd rather develop 3 or 4 of them in a team that's getting CL football, and developing them to a CL level, than develop 6 or 7 of them but only getting them Europa and mid table experience. if you can bring through them in groups of 3 or 4 every 3 or 4 years then that's half the first team squad or more coming up through the ranks. We're basically trying to bring through too big a batch in one go. Now I'm not sure if that's really BR's intention (though he obviously went out and got Borini, Allen and now looking like Coutinho), or if he's hoping in the summer to bring in more experience, but it's definitely something that needs to be looked at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Coutinho expected to be signed this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If there's a Skrtel-Rodgers conflict the latter wins out every time. Not even a debate to be had on that score, surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Prob a whole load of balls tbh, apparently BR doesn't like Martin's attitude and Martin doesn't like BR's man management style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Didn't we see the same ******** printed about Rafa's man management? Wouldn't read anything into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 You'll never get all the players to agree with the manager's style. If it's too big a problem, just sell him to Man City for £30m... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Is it safe to enter here now after Sunday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I hope BR ships skirts out in the summer. I never rated him. Had one decent season and hes supposidly a great CB. Problem is with the window closing in 2 days, no time to bring in a suitable replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Is it safe to enter here now after Sunday? it's never safe in here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 it's never safe in here! Well that is very true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 shipping out Skrtel would be a bit crazy, decent enough 3rd choice for the next few seasons and gives a settling period for anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 How are we gonna line up tomorrow then? What do you guys consider to be a reasonable expectation for the next 2 games? For the Arsenal game we'll need players with mobility and high concentration. I think if we get off to a good start and can be pretty direct we'll have a chance. Obviously we'll need to be stout at the back and Lucas back in midfield will be key. Against City it's possible we'll catch them on an off day, and we could possibly stalemate the game and nick a winner. But we'll need to take the chances that come our way instead of being wasteful. Overall, I'd be happy with draws for both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I hope sterling sits for the Arsenal game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Sam Allerdyce has admitted that Diame could leave this month. For £3.5m, to have someone like him as a ball-winner and in the engine room, he would be a cracking signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 He got injuried when he played us. Is he fully recovered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Really not expecting anything from these 2 games unless they both have bad days or we play especially well. We might nick a point at Arsenal but won't get anything in Manchester. I'll settle for a couple of decent performances in which we don't get spanked too badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I really want Borini to have a run of games and see how he does now that the team is a bit more settled. If he doesn't deliver then my opinion on Rodgers will be hugely damaged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Reina Wisdom - Skrtel - Agger - Johnson Lucas Henderson - Gerrard Suarez - Sturridge - Downing Probably something like that tomorrow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 He got injuried when he played us. Is he fully recovered? Played at the weekend I think? If I'm wrong then I'm near sure he's at least been on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulliner Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Diame had virtually signed a contract to join us in the summer until Kenny left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I don't think Skrtel has been that bad tbh. The defence has a whole has looked shaky without Lucas in-front of them. Skrtel is a solid defender and I would rather have him for the reminder of the season and bring in Diame/other holding player to help Lucas than sell him and bring in a replacement and not strengthen the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Reina Wisdom - Skrtel - Agger - Johnson Lucas Henderson - Gerrard Suarez - Sturridge - Downing Probably something like that tomorrow? I'd say that's our strongest line-up atm. Should suit Henderson well as good midfield pressing will be important. Not convinced Downing will be able to produce anything really, but he'll be our wide option as the rest of the team lends itself to pretty narrow play. And as someone said earlier Sterling really needs resting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Btw you are likely to face: Woj; Sagna, Mertesacker, TV, Gibbs; Ramsey, Wilshere, Cazorla; Theo, Giroud, Podolski If we play like we did in that spell against West Ham we'll win comfortably but we're also going to need the first half to warm up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 What tall is Giroud? If he is anything above 6ft 1 then he will have a field day if our current form is anything to go by Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 He's 6ft 4". He'll probably need 5 or more chances to score against a half decent team though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 to score against a half decent team though. Not us then . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Just seen on some message forum that we've put in a £9.6m offer for Ashley Williams. Anyone seen anything else on this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 9.6 mill for a 29 year old that isn't any better than what we have. I call ******** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Just seen on some message forum that we've put in a £9.6m offer for Ashley Williams. Anyone seen anything else on this? This is the only message forum you should be listening to! Were at least sensible with our non sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 This is the only message forum you should be listening to! Were at least sensible with our non sense At least it wasn't Twitter. Didn't believe it really because Ashley Williams isn't my first choice to blow £10m on. Was just wondering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 9.6 mill for a 29 year old that isn't any better than what we have. I call ******** Surely that makes him a typical signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Surely that makes him a typical signing says the arsenal fan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 says the arsenal fan? That is an awful retort. Our issue is a lack of signings but generally the ones we sign are good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 That is an awful retort. Our issue is a lack of signings but generally the ones we sign are good That's debatable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 the ones we sign are good Wow and I thought some of our lot were deluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 That's debatable The issue is a lack of rather than the quality of. Wow and I thought some of our lot were deluded. great misquote there. As I said generally. It is a mostly a positive record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The issue is a lack of rather than the quality of. great misquote there. As I said generally. It is a mostly a positive record sure for arguments sake we'll go with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 166]Thomas Vermaelen[/TD] [TD=width: 105]£10,000,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sol Campbell[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Marouane Chamakh[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Laurent Koscielny[/TD] [TD]£9,700,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sebastien Squillaci[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Carl Jenkinson[/TD] [TD]£1,000,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gervinho[/TD] [TD]£10,500,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain[/TD] [TD]£12,000,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Joel Campbell[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Park Chu-Young[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mikel Arteta[/TD] [TD]£10,000,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Andre Santos[/TD] [TD]£6,800,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Per Mertesacker[/TD] [TD]£8,000,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Thomas Eisfeld[/TD] [TD]£420,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Olivier Giroud[/TD] [TD]£13,000,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Lukas Podolski[/TD] [TD]£11,000,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hector Bellerin[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Santi Cazorla[/TD] [TD]£15,000,000.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Not turning this in to a "your signings vs our signings" battle, because we'll admit how awful ours have been. But do you really think the large majority of those transfers were good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Some of those prices are awful and the list is incomplete. The awful ones are Chamakh, Park, Santos, Squillaci, Gervinho. Of the rest Campbell was a cheap emergency who performed well. Joel Campbell, Bellerin and Eisfeld are all youngster s,the latter two could make it and their cost is negligible. I have no problem with any of the rest of them as signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 2 bad signings there (that they've paid money for, Santos and Gervinho) with Ox still out for judgement, that's not bad at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Except as was pointed out, there have been plenty of dodgy ones too. Also.... who cares Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 3 bids accepted for diame apparently and none of them are from us... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I cant believe some people from supporters coach I go on want Brendan sacked some want Rafa. Great replace a manager beaten by Oldham and replace him with a manager who drew with Brentford with a more expensive assembled squad. BR has seen his side drop 9 points against the bottom 9 sides. I think Dalglish only beat 4 of the bottom sides at Anfield and the form the club were in after Christmas was relegation form yet nobody would say anything bad because it was King Kenny. I dont think we will get anything from our next two away games but as I keep saying after Sunday we dont play any of the current top 13 away from home so hopefully we can accumulate a fair amount of points. I think we play good football under BR as a whole. Oldham, Arsenal and West Brom are the only times we have been outplayed. I rather judge a manager after a season rather than 1 defeat to Oldham. Dont forget he lost Kuyt, Maxi, Bellemay, Spearing, Adam and Aqualauni ok I dont rate all of them but they are senior players. BR had to play a right back at left back as we didnt have cover, a teenage rookie at right back whose natural position is centre half, 2 teenagers in midfield and only had 1 fit striker until January yet we are still about 5 points off 4th place. Start of the season our aim should have been top 6 give the youngsters a chance and see progress with a few decent signings anything else is a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I can't even be bothered to continue arguing against people who want Rodgers out. Its like hitting your head off a brick wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoolFan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I can't even be bothered to continue arguing against people who want Rodgers out. Its like hitting your head off a brick wall. Who's asking though, not sure i've heard anyone suggest Rodgers out even on the regular douche fests like 606. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Who's asking though, not sure i've heard anyone suggest Rodgers out even on the regular douche fests like 606. Just because you haven't doesn't mean it hasn't happened. As Tony said, he has had it on the supporters bus and I have heard it from people myself and the odd few in here have questioned whether he is the right man for the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Not the official photo, but :*) anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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