chef Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 rooney was poor tonight and I have him in my fantasy team and I'm debating weather to take him out, knowing my luck i do that and he will score and get a good points total for that week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 rooney was poor tonight and I have him in my fantasy team and I'm debating weather to take him out, knowing my luck i do that and he will score and get a good points total for that week Please take him out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 so then you can go above me In the league ..ermmmmmmm let me think about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akura Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Not going to say he wasn't awful. Just reminded that he is a player that has always needed to play. The older he gets it probably takes a little longer for the engine to fully fire up. If he is like this still by the end of our 6 match August then we are in trouble with him up top. I, for one, do not think that will be the case. Oh he'll get goals he always does, I just felt this is the worst I've seen him perform in a long time, he'll probably score in the next game now so I wouldn't worry, he has a habit of coming good after a bad game and receiving criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 will take 36 more 1-0's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Heck, I'd settle for 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Big win that so early in the season, what with City vs Chelsea and Arsenal having a tough game away to Palace on Sunday. Needed to get the three points tonight and we have! Darmian and Smalling were brilliant again and the two standout players once again, followed on from the Spurs game. Blind solid too. Smalling really is a completely different player from 12 months ago. Come on leaps and bounds since the sending off vs City last November. Turning point in his career it seems. Strong, good on the ball and showing some good leadership skills now on the pitch. Hopefully he can keep up this progress. Januzaj!! Delighted to see him start the game and get what turned out to be the winning goal. Very talented young player as we know but just needs to be playing every week, not sure he is going to get enough games for us this season if we add Pedro and maybe even another striker to the squad before the end of the window. Still he took his chance expertly. Fantastic run from him and picked out superbly by Mata. One of two excellent through balls in this game from the Spaniard. Depay really should have out that chance away and made it two nil for us. Thought Memphis made some good runs in this game, he didn't have the best of games but showed glimpse, needs time to settle and adjust. Bastian really settled us down when he came on for Carrick, good substitution at a pivotal time in the game. Rooney was absolutely abysmal. One of if not his worst game for us in his time at the club, literally did nothing positive all game. Looks unfit and as he nears 30 years old looks to be on the downward spiral now. Don't trust him to score the 20+ goals we need to challenge for the title. Early days in the season of course and Rooney doesn't usually get going until October/November but I really think we need a new striker more than a CB. Had it the other way around a few weeks ago but after seeing Rooney these past two games... Results more important than the performances in the early stages of the season but delighted with the start we've made after two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Wow you guys don't ask for much do you? One would settle for 114pts and one would settle for 93pts this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 What's wrong with that? I'd be decently content with 93 points. I mean, realistically we should be getting triple digits but I just don't think our squad is quite ready for that just this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 A team like ours going through transition, 93pts is far too much to ask for an unrealistic target. Even our best ever team struggle getting that. Our best ever season under fergie was 91 I think. 80pts would be a realistic and ambitious target for this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Where are you getting 93 points from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I imagine it was Icelanders 30 more 1-0 comments that Sid seems to have handled like a quadriplegic wicket keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 A team like ours going through transition, 93pts is far too much to ask for an unrealistic target. Even our best ever team struggle getting that. Our best ever season under fergie was 91 I think. 80pts would be a realistic and ambitious target for this season 93 points is by a comfortable distance the least we should be expecting with our squad and compared to the rest of the league. Other teams are in utter disarray, City have resorted to trying in vain to steal our transfer targets and Chelsea are such a mess they even banned their physio from attending games! Also Wenger seems more obsessed with Chelsea's physio debacle than actually managing his team. Anything under 93 points would be an absolute scandal, all things considered. #GGMU Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah that's what I thought, but I make it 96 points. Isn't Sid a maths teacher? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah that's what I thought, but I make it 96 points. Isn't Sid a maths teacher? We'll be docked three points when Rooney swears into a camera again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Where are you getting 93 points from? My mind was still before the villa game. Anyway anything above 90 is nearly impossible for the team in its current state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Sid's relentless and unrealistic negativity makes me question if he even really supports the team. Anyone thinking we'll get less than 96 points isn't a real fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The team looked far more capable when Schweinsteiger came on. Rooney though? Time's up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Rooney will score goals but I think LVG has to get another quality striker. Rooney does not have pace and when he is bad, he really is bad. He needs another top striker who can put his place under pressure. Think it is pivotal you get Pedro. Need more pace in the attacking third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Rooney will only good once our attacking play picks up. With the lack of chances he's not going to be more than a passenger most of the game with the current set-up. He's been meh so far but he's barely getting the ball in the final third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yeah that's what I thought, but I make it 96 points. Isn't Sid a maths teacher? No. No he isn't. There is no way anyone would let him teach our youth otherwise the country is ****ed completely. If anyone thought that Sid isn't a troll must surely have been swayed now. No way he seriously thought the comments about winning every single game 1-0 were genuine, but if he was going for some sort of humour in replying at the 1-0 comment it just is impossible to tell. As I've said before, he is either a troll, incredibly thick, or a strong mixture of the two, and I'm sticking with the latter, which is effectively someone thick trying to troll and being entirely bad at it because they're too thick to pull it off. Wish Ice would just ban him from the thread. I've got the thick little ******* on ignore yet all you silly ****ers continue to quote him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Rooney will only good once our attacking play picks up. With the lack of chances he's not going to be more than a passenger most of the game with the current set-up. He's been meh so far but he's barely getting the ball in the final third. I agree that it is early days and that over the first 4/5/6 games we will steadily improve and find our rhythm, hopefully, but so will every other team. Rooney received the ball several times in the final third and sometimes other areas off the pitch, and quite frankly it was like Rooney had sprayed his boots with ball repellent. His touch was woeful, like you've encouraged a mate who has never played football in his life to join in your game just for the sake of taking part. It was painful to watch and it was like that in the most part last season, so I've no real reason to believe that it is early season blues and will get better, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 #GGMU Good Lord. That was horrible to watch. Just horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Rooney will only good once our attacking play picks up. With the lack of chances he's not going to be more than a passenger most of the game with the current set-up. He's been meh so far but he's barely getting the ball in the final third. I agree with this. I still rate Rooney but he needs quite a lot of support to score goals now. I think the game showed again that when we have someone decent in the centre of midfield we get more chances down the middle as well as the flanks. Edit: meant something decent formation wise in the middle not someone. We've got a great set of players who can play there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 3 shots on target on goal in 2 matches and Van Gaal is happy about it? Oooook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 U18s lost 3-1 to Everton, poor performance. Williams had a half decent game and Gribbin scored a lovely free kick but not too many positives to take from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Ian Wright seems convinced that Rooney shouldn't be used as a striker anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 He had 1 touch in the box yesterday. That's not a striker. No wonder we're not creating anything. No ones there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pago Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 im not sure he's disciplined or selfish enough to play as a striker on his own, especially with our current style of play. We seem to have quite slow build ups and aren't constantly attacking so rooney gets bored and always wants to drop back and chase things and try and make things happen. Which would be fine if he was the no.10 and the had a no.9 to feed. as it is, he drops back, gets the ball and then has no one to play the ball to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 it really is beyond a joke. he's not good enough to play for united anymore, yet his position is somehow guaranteed. he can't even basically control the ****ing ball anymore. we can't win the league with this guy "playing" up front, and there's a handful of people already better than him in the 10 position. i wonder how much longer van gaal will let this go on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Rooney was always at his best as one of a front two, with an out and out target man that stays forward and allows him to link up. Without that target man Rooney lacks something that was a vital part of his play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Ian Wright seems convinced that Rooney shouldn't be used as a striker anymore. Wouldn't get in any other of the top six side from last season as a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Otamendi off to City then, the **** we playing at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Otamendi off to City then, the **** we playing at? He is not left footed and LVG wants a left footed centre back to partner a right footed one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He is not left footed and LVG wants a left footed centre back to partner a right footed one. He apparently also wants someone who knows the club well and has been having talks with Silvestre and Heinze about coming out of retirement for the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He apparently also wants someone who knows the club well and has been having talks with Silvestre and Heinze about coming out of retirement for the season Good thing we got one of those on the bench. Left-footed too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He is not left footed and LVG wants a left footed centre back to partner a right footed one. Couldn't Otamendi be the right-footed one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STaphouse Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Couldn't Otamendi be the right-footed one? Smalling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Smalling's showing that with match time and a settled role in the system he can turn into a top class defender so he needs to be nurtured in that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 It's been 2 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 As much as I think Smalling has improved over the last season and becoming our better defenders, surely you would want Otamendi over him? And Rojo could play next to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 We definitely need another CB and striker. After getting rid of RVP and Falcao we definitely need anther forward, unless he is thinking of using Hernandez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 It's been 2 games. Exactly and he's considerably better than he was at this point last season. Give him time. Bring in a proper left footed CB to replace Blind and give Smalling a proper defensive partner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 We can play perfectly with two right footed centre backs, but LVG likes to have symmetry for some reason. Superstition maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He had 1 touch in the box yesterday. That's not a striker. No wonder we're not creating anything. No ones there. It was the same problem last season. Stylistically it's perfectly normal to dislike the football, but the lack of goals and chances is squarely on the shower of **** we've had up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Otamendi off to City then, the **** we playing at? Has this been confirmed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 All but confirmed, it would seem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 No but its pretty strongly rumoured. Mangala on loan to Valencia for the season maybe included in the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 van gaal just doesn't seem to fancy him, never mind at €40m and the other reasons mentioned. we do need another cb but it's not a major issue given mike smalling's form and rojo to come back. defence isn't a problem. hopefully we're too busy working on buying thomas muller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hummels with another commanding performance yesterday. We really need a defender like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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