2feet Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Seems like the new graphics engine is really starting to bear fruit this year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, zachalxnder said: I think it depends on how far into a save you get. Most development is usually around +3 points. There is some development in the game, but not at that level. I think if you’re around 3 years into a save, it will have a big effect. Just about to go into my 2nd season. What’s your advice ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_kax Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 hace 11 horas, angelo994 dijo: Honestly, yes. I play with IF & IWF and I see them cutting in and making some beautiful plays. The match engine has been a joy to play with. I really can't put enough praises on it. With all due respect, I don't know where you see those dribbles and that IF/IW work properly... When IF/IW see a defender, stop and pass. Off ball they move well, when there is no defender nearby and they can do one on one in front of the goalkeeper they cut inside and face the goalkeeper (In FM22 they turned and passed back, it was much worse)... But when they receive the ball with a defender close they almost never try to dribble him, they make a first movement inside but there they almost always look for the pass and very rarely continue driving the ball by running inside or trying to dribble. I have seen more than 20 videos, some with several matches, and I have seen in total 4/5 plays of IF/IW trying to dribble their defender. More than FM22? Yes. Enough? absolutely not I'm glad others can enjoy the game even though this role is broken, I wish I could too, but if we accept that a completely broken role in FM22 in FM23 is a little less broken, we say it works great, they will never fix it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-IceMan Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 hours ago, albertluque said: If you click on show full squad view it changes to something similar but you have to return to the planner to modify it. Sure its "similar", but the way its shown, especially showing only 3 players per position, makes it almost just a waste of a view. Having to click on each position seperately to just see its depth is a lot more busywork then with the old Squad Depth screen . Wished the Depth screen was still there meh. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onurt3 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Hey guys! I really liked the game, thanks for the effort. I am here for productive feedback: I can see the player's performance in main squad screen, however I cannot see those performance feedbacks (goals etc.) in his own page. I attached 2 photos for Dele Alli (Beşiktaş). Thanks, Best regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali184 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 2feet said: I replied with why the answers didnt make sense but didnt get any follow up. Would it be better worded like 'trap opposition outside/inside'? Would you be pleased then? Will it make the game flawless? Edited October 23, 2022 by Vali184 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2feet Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vali184 said: Would it be better worded like 'trap opposition outside/inside'? Would you be pleased then? Will it make the game flawless? It's not about being flawless.... just clear. Maybe Press to Outside instead of Trap Outside? Or Set Traps Inside instead of Trap Outside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachalxnder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, daveh83 said: Just about to go into my 2nd season. What’s your advice ? If you’re trying to do a youth save, might be worrisome. Don’t think you should stop if you’re having fun though. In theory, this is big enough of an issue that they should release a hot fix. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Looking for a long term save and, assuming I'll only get 2 seasons In before the 8th November, the hotfix for player development means there will be a minimal effect on my save I assume? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali184 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, 2feet said: It's not about being flawless.... just clear. Maybe Press to Outside instead of Trap Outside? Or Set Traps Inside instead of Trap Outside? It doesn't make any sense what you're saying. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassafras Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, zachalxnder said: If you’re trying to do a youth save, might be worrisome. Don’t think you should stop if you’re having fun though. In theory, this is big enough of an issue that they should release a hot fix. Hate to be negative, but if anyone thinks this will be completely fixed in this edition, I think they might be sorely disappointed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachalxnder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Sassafras said: Hate to be negative, but if anyone thinks this will be completely fixed in this edition, I think they might be sorely disappointed. You think it’s here to stay beyond winter update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, zachalxnder said: If you’re trying to do a youth save, might be worrisome. Don’t think you should stop if you’re having fun though. In theory, this is big enough of an issue that they should release a hot fix. 100%. I understand hotfixes have traditionally usually been released for crashes or major ME issues, but with the time period between the issue being flagged (within 48 hours of beta release) and full game release on the 8th of November, I would hope the intention would be to get a hotfix out even if just for more testing from us before full release. I do remember last years having a 2/3 hotfixes before release relating to some UI/ME and other areas? Also potentially the long ball/CB issue on the ME if this is possible, especially due to the knock on effects from any slight tweaks in the ME. I understand the need to not over promise and undeliver on a fix before release, but if it's being worked on and in a position to go I would hope it isn't delayed just for the sake of it. Such a shame currently as I'd love to crack on with a long term save as I am very impressed this year. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachalxnder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, KillYourIdols said: Looking for a long term save and, assuming I'll only get 2 seasons In before the 8th November, the hotfix for player development means there will be a minimal effect on my save I assume? Meaning is it worth doing the save or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali184 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, KillYourIdols said: Looking for a long term save and, assuming I'll only get 2 seasons In before the 8th November, the hotfix for player development means there will be a minimal effect on my save I assume? The point of a beta is to test the game for bugs, not to play it 2 weeks earlier. You preordered to test the game before full release, not to get access to play it before someone else. I don't understand why is it so hard for some of you to understand this. Maybe it's because of some sense of privilege. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachalxnder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, Domoboy23 said: 100%. I understand hotfixes have traditionally usually been released for crashes or major ME issues, but with the time period between the issue being flagged (within 48 hours of beta release) and full game release on the 8th of November, I would hope the intention would be to get a hotfix out even if just for more testing from us before full release. I do remember last years having a 2/3 hotfixes before release relating to some UI/ME and other areas? Also potentially the long ball/CB issue on the ME if this is possible, especially due to the knock on effects from any slight tweaks in the ME. I understand the need to not over promise and undeliver on a fix before release, but if it's being worked on and in a position to go I would hope it isn't delayed just for the sake of it. Such a shame currently as I'd love to crack on with a long term save as I am very impressed this year. I think they usually release hot fixes for things that do really impact the beta, which this would. There are always a few fixes for crashes. And I think there was one some year for people not being able to advance past a date. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, Vali184 said: The point of a beta is to test the game for bugs, not to play it 2 weeks earlier. You preordered to test the game before full release, not to get access to play it before someone else. I don't understand why is it so hard for some of you to understand this. Maybe it's because of some sense of privilege. What you on about? It's a fairly simple question. Why you got all high and mighty over it? If the question is too hard for you, move on. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, zachalxnder said: Meaning is it worth doing the save or not? Yes. If its going to have a minimal Impact (I belive it will be savegame compatible, but no retro active fixes) I'll start my save now. 1 minute ago, zachalxnder said: I think they usually release hot fixes for things that do really impact the beta, which this would. There are always a few fixes for crashes. And I think there was one some year for people not being able to advance past a date. As above. Thanks for the info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Mcfc1894 said: Is anyone noticing a lot of goals from corners I'm playing as Real Madrid and after the first half of the season I think I have yet to see a goal from a corner. Both for and against. - T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diLLa88 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Bit young or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2feet Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Vali184 said: It doesn't make any sense what you're saying. The trap is set inside which results in the ball being funnelled to the outside of the pitch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Meraklija Vujevic said: There is no purpose for report! Example in fm 22 how long passed from latest update with match engine changes. Instead of releasing small updates and fixing match engine issues through entire year they dont do nothing for few months So you're basically here to complain? Report the bugs or play something else. What you're doing now isn't helping anyone. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
callamity Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, 2feet said: The trap is set inside which results in the ball being funnelled to the outside of the pitch? No the trap isnt set inside. Passing lanes are blocked inside, funneling the play outside and trapping the opposition outside. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
callamity Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, Vali184 said: The point of a beta is to test the game for bugs, not to play it 2 weeks earlier. You preordered to test the game before full release, not to get access to play it before someone else. I don't understand why is it so hard for some of you to understand this. Maybe it's because of some sense of privilege. Long term saves need tested too, or the development issue would have never been found. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, 2feet said: It's not about being flawless.... just clear. Maybe Press to Outside instead of Trap Outside? Or Set Traps Inside instead of Trap Outside? The game uses "Trap" as a verb - not a noun. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassafras Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, zachalxnder said: You think it’s here to stay beyond winter update? Well, I hope I'm wrong, but unfortunately yes. They've done their data development work and now it's about fixing bugs. This seems like a major issue which is not just simply fixed by toggling down some sliders. Let's also not forget that this has been an issue for a long time in FM - long term attribute development has always been favourable to physical attributes, but it still had a good enough improvement in the technicals. Now we're at an extreme version of that, where technicals are barely improving at all. Why would anyone be confident that this will be fixed when the issues before haven't been resolved? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I know the matchday UI has been absolutely awful since the touchline tablet was introduced years ago (designed to bring more information to you but ironically makes it harder to get the information you want in a clear fashion) but for the poor people who won't go on to use a skin... Can you at least make the latest scores at full time a bit more presentable? Look at all that space to just cut off names with more than 6 letters? And to be skewed to the left just looks so messy. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jlboybeamer Posted October 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) Football Manager 2023 match engine way too many long balls. SI seems to have trigger happy with the new bouncy balls physics. Surprised they haven’t included this as a feature. My main gripe is that the squad planner feature is a downgrade to what was the squad depth , squad planner doesn’t even automatically include on trial players in the hierachy like squad depth used to , so you were able to see easier which on trial player was better than your current crop of players , it also gives less info about the squad depth in general , I can’t even see the youth prospects unlike before , you can clearly see which player who was up and coming from the youth system in each position. Why couldn’t they have just kept the squad depth feature and added the squad planner on the side ? It seems senseless. Features are meant to help and improve on things , this just made things more complicated and unclear. The attributes in most of the players are unchanged from last year. Will there be a data base update with the final release ? Who ever designs the UI needs sacking , I have had to click more to get to certain information , text being cut after 6 letters etc. The usabality of the original skin has gone downhill each FM for the past 3 years , Thank God for skins. For the love of God Sports Interactive listen to your community and ACCEPT constructive criticism. Edited October 23, 2022 by jlboybeamer 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertygod Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Red cards.......Red cards......literally every single game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, qwertygod said: Red cards.......Red cards......literally every single game I've not seen a single one for or against yet in 16 games! Also not a single penalty... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, qwertygod said: Red cards.......Red cards......literally every single game Not here. I have seen a few double bookings and maybe one straight red card this first half season I've played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, jlboybeamer said: Football Manager 2023 match engine way too many long balls. Can someone explain this to me Is it for or against you? Which sort of roles and tactics are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertygod Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Domoboy23 said: I've not seen a single one for or against yet in 16 games! Also not a single penalty... i dont think it's a game issue to be fair i know its just a bad run as its just came out of nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcfc1894 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Troels Jensen said: Not here. I have seen a few double bookings and maybe one straight red card this first half season I've played. 25 yellow cards for walker something defiantly does need tweaking 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I need people's help. I have been playing with the squad planner and trying new ways to configure it to see what works best. I cleared my list of Fullbacks, thinking I'd start again. Above is my young defensive player and you can see I've added him to the DR role via his profile. The confusing thing is that when I tried to add him to the planner from the squad screen I didn't have an option to add him as a DR. The only option was WBR. It's as if the 'add to squad planner' option from the squad screen was using a different tactic. I only have one tactic currently. Now, I didn't get a screenshot but I swear the list didn't have DR. I have gone back to my save I loaded in to and tried to recreate this issue to no avail. Has anyone else experienced this? I wanted to bug it but without proof I can't, not would it help if I can't recreate the issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onurt3 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 -Regarding requirement for rotation: This is understandable idea, however if you are a club only plays in leage (not in continental competitions), substitute players (who are outside of first 11) are underperforming and are not contributing at all to the scoreline. I didn't have to change startin 11 ever for 20 matches. You may give room to surprises a little more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFM Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I don't know if this is something new to this years game or not but it's the first time I've saw it happen and it's now happened in both transfer windows. My key players are being looked at by big PL teams such as City and Arsenal - in the final day of the transfer window, they approach with loan offers with mandatory buy-in clauses at the end? Never came across this before and I'd assume their budgets would be able to afford my players (managing in Scotland) so just not sure why their trying to the loan option first. Happened twice now, once in the summer by City and now in January by Arsenal. Anyone else had this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post albertluque Posted October 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2022 NOBODY GONNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HAALAND GETTING 98 GOALS? 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertygod Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, ScottishFM said: I don't know if this is something new to this years game or not but it's the first time I've saw it happen and it's now happened in both transfer windows. My key players are being looked at by big PL teams such as City and Arsenal - in the final day of the transfer window, they approach with loan offers with mandatory buy-in clauses at the end? Never came across this before and I'd assume their budgets would be able to afford my players (managing in Scotland) so just not sure why their trying to the loan option first. Happened twice now, once in the summer by City and now in January by Arsenal. Anyone else had this? If that was real life it would sound like a circumventing of the current years FFP - maybe that is the reason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Anyone else finding the performance review's too harsh? I won the Canadian league with a team predicted to finish second from last, and the performance review from both board and supporters is still at C+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertygod Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, albertluque said: NOBODY GONNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HAALAND GETTING 98 GOALS? 98 goals meh - should be getting that in one month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamyKaze Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, david_kax said: With all due respect, I don't know where you see those dribbles and that IF/IW work properly... When IF/IW see a defender, stop and pass. Off ball they move well, when there is no defender nearby and they can do one on one in front of the goalkeeper they cut inside and face the goalkeeper (In FM22 they turned and passed back, it was much worse)... But when they receive the ball with a defender close they almost never try to dribble him, they make a first movement inside but there they almost always look for the pass and very rarely continue driving the ball by running inside or trying to dribble. I have seen more than 20 videos, some with several matches, and I have seen in total 4/5 plays of IF/IW trying to dribble their defender. More than FM22? Yes. Enough? absolutely not I'm glad others can enjoy the game even though this role is broken, I wish I could too, but if we accept that a completely broken role in FM22 in FM23 is a little less broken, we say it works great, they will never fix it. What do you mean?? I see plenty... from the AI wingers... not from mine... 1 hour ago, callamity said: No the trap isnt set inside. Passing lanes are blocked inside, funneling the play outside and trapping the opposition outside. Just don't bother. He lives on his own little world.. This seems a bit extreme no?? Might be worth as bug report Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertluque Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, KamyKaze said: What do you mean?? I see plenty... from the AI wingers... not from mine... Just don't bother. He lives on his own little world.. This seems a bit extreme no?? Might be worth as bug report nufc had to do this once due to notting hill carnival. played europe thursday and away to chelsea on saturday iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2feet Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, callamity said: No the trap isnt set inside. Passing lanes are blocked inside, funneling the play outside and trapping the opposition outside. Ah I see, thanks. Edited October 23, 2022 by 2feet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevjim Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, albertluque said: NOBODY GONNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HAALAND GETTING 98 GOALS? 35 assist for B Silva too. Absolutely insane numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andu1 Posted October 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2022 AI Liverpool beating AI Watford 14-0. Sorry Miles... I think 3 at the back is bugged right now. I think 3 at the back 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 9 hours ago, MaxeyN17 said: Any word on MS Store early access? There is no early access for the gamepass version. 4 hours ago, Johnny Ace said: It is the Beta to be fair, we're supposed to be finding issues tbf, you can make a good argument that a bug such as players technicals not developing as they should, should be something that is flagged up at the QA stage and sorted before releasing the beta early. 4 hours ago, trueblue.85 said: Was looking forward to a save in Uruguay this year as never played previously as they didn't have a cup, and they have finally introduced one this season but not in the game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Uruguay That's a shame. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 With scouting 'packages' being replaced by 'range' is it correct to assume that a 'world range' means every player in the game is available in our scouting database? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1977beyond Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I'm well up for buying this version. The cup draw module for me, although superfluous for some is a game changer. Really makes those cups special again, but...I do fear this game is broke in some way. Tom FM simulated 100 years and the top flight was littered with lower league teams and Costa Rica winning the league. Seeing Liverpool win above by such a ridiculous margin is alarming too. Plus in a game by a streamer, Conte got the sack from Spurs. It's here I discovered apparently the game isn't good with defensive/moderate tactics? No wonder I've scored 1 goal in 5 in FM22 using a similar methodology I employed in FM18...a methodology I had to employ as the players get tired quickly. I really want to be positive but fearing the worst at the moment 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachalxnder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, KillYourIdols said: Yes. If its going to have a minimal Impact (I belive it will be savegame compatible, but no retro active fixes) I'll start my save now. As above. Thanks for the info. It will be save compatible. Are you doing an Arsenal save? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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