Suede2 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I am after a list of once big clubs that have fallen on hard times. I feel like trying to restore a club to it's former glory. Anyone make any suggestions for clubs outside the British Isles that would fulfill that criteria? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo123 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Someone else asked the other day, there must be a thread somewhere, but some suggestions could be Real Oviedo, Verona, Strasbourg, theres probably others but cant think of any more at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Monaco, River Plate, Reims, Torino, Pro Vercelli as a starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo_rune Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 There's Ajax of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmufc Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 AS St-Etienne would be a good challenge this year, dominant in hte 60's and 70's not much since then, try and knock off PSG and Lyon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich10 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 If you are after a proper challenge, apart from the usual Sheffield Wednesday/Nottingham Forest type suggestions...try this: http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2011/2/6/the-fallen-giants-of-spanish-football.html Does FM12 go down as far as 'Segunda Division B'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeoe Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 There's Ajax of course. yea it's a ******** atm but hey we are probably through into the next round in the CL though :O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJapp Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Feyenoord? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntelaar19 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Got to be the 'sellick' ! SPL will be easy but, definitely a challenge to get them back where they belong and repeat 1967 ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Vercelli Pro Vercelli won Serie A 7 times a long long time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucasa Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Luton town FC of England. Holstein Kiel of German. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Gonzo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Racing Strasbourg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec2k Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Red Star Belgrade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeChesters Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 River Plate is the one that springs to mind, only due to recentley having fallen out the Argentine First Division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Boavista from Portugal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mije1983 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Torino maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb10billion Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Torino maybe? I did Torino back in FM10. Always look out for them IRL. Might have to go back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamielvo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I am after a list of once big clubs that have fallen on hard times. I feel like trying to restore a club to it's former glory.Anyone make any suggestions for clubs outside the British Isles that would fulfill that criteria? Queen's Park! They've won the Scottish FA Cup more times than any other non-Old Firm club, were one of the first Scottish dominant forces and play at Hampden Park. ...however they refuse to give up their amateur status and pay players - their club motto is "to play for the sake of playing". Now there's a challenge! Edit---> Oops... just noticed "outside the British Isles". Sorry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alw02005 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Holy hell what happened to Strasbourg?! They've fallen on hard times. Challenge accepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suckerkevin Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Leeds United. Liverpool. Nottingham Forest. Sheffield Wednesday. Newcastle United Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfive Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Queen's Park!They've won the Scottish FA Cup more times than any other non-Old Firm club, were one of the first Scottish dominant forces and play at Hampden Park. ...however they refuse to give up their amateur status and pay players - their club motto is "to play for the sake of playing". Now there's a challenge! Edit---> Oops... just noticed "outside the British Isles". Sorry! Yeah, I got as far as the Premier with 'em in fm2011 before definetely giving up as I was still waiting for them to turn pro and didn't know they were programmed to stay amature... You've got the editing option though if you want to... I just didn't felle it was right You've got Red Star 93 in French national (3rd division) also as a nice challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCook Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I can't find Strasbourg in Championnat National. Is it some bug? Nvm. Wiki isn't updated and they're playing even lower now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Stade de Reims is a good example and sounds perfect for what you want. 2 times Champions League/European Cup finalists, once the dominant side in their country and had one of the greatest attacks in the history of the game with Just Fontaine and Raymond Kopa and now a struggling second tier team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I can't find Strasbourg in Championnat National. Is it some bug? No bug, they're in the league below Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourcuff20 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Steaua Bucharest from Romania - once won the Champions Cup and European Super Cup and soon after lost another Champions Cup Final. Five years ago they were also in the semi-final of the UEFA Cup and almost got through to the Final with Sevilla. You could try it, they are not too happy with their latest Romanian League results either and they have an incisive chairman, who sacks coaches in a matter of few lost games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Brøndby IF from Denmark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 +1 for Steaua Bucharest in real life they changed alot of players, and they have like 5 managers per year, total nuthouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manager Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Boavista and Belenenses were the only teams outside of the top 3 of Portugal to win the league belenenses is in the 2nd tier boavista is in the 3rd tier Boavista won theirs in the 2000's and only fell through the leagues due to financial problems if am not wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightonrock Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Leeds United.Liverpool. Nottingham Forest. Sheffield Wednesday. Newcastle United How exactly are Liverpool a fallen giant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mije1983 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 How exactly are Liverpool a fallen giant? Surely the question should be 'since when are these teams outside the British Isles?' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alw02005 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Surely the question should be 'since when are these teams outside the British Isles?' That would involve reading the OP, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 FC Petržalka 1898 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machetero Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Dinamo Kiev) But we are still hoping for better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraowww Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Sampdoria Borussia Mönchengladbach Eintracht Frankfurt IFK Göteborg Parma Anderlecht Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverboot81 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 If you want something exotic check out Oulun Palloseura (OPS). It's former Finnish giant. They won Finnish championship twice in 1979 and 1980. Also they fought 1-1 draw with Liverpool in European cup in 1980 (though they lost ugly in Liverpool ) Currently they are playing in Finnish 1st division and definitely fighting for promotion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Whippy Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Strasbourg will be a good challenge, it'll take a while but worth doing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew the Cookie Eater Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Deportivo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperManager Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 +1 for River Alania in Russian First Division won the Premier League and stayed at the top for a while in the 90's and are now bottom of their current league. Same with Torpedo Moscow. There was also a Hungarian side Puskas played for that were HUGE in his time, before he went to Real Madrid. Can't remember who though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machetero Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 There was also a Hungarian side Puskas played for that were HUGE in his time, before he went to Real Madrid. Can't remember who though. He played for Honved. Though you most likely mean Ferencvaros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorando Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 SampdoriaBorussia Mönchengladbach Eintracht Frankfurt IFK Göteborg Parma Anderlecht How is Anderlecht a fallen giant? Sure they haven't won the champions league lately but they are leading the Belgian league and are currently the only team in the europa league with a perfect record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamgannon Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 napoli. although they are improving, they are not yet where they once were. I'm going into my fourth season with them and its been my best save in years. It makes it fun if you do what they do in real life, only sign italian and argentinians, makes for a robust team with oodles of flair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonUnit Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Luton town FC of England.Holstein Kiel of German. Lol Luton town may of fallen, only buy 2 leagues, plus LT was never a giant, with the very small fan base they i say league 2 is about there lvl. TBH Luton town is such a small and poor town they should dissolve and put there resources into helping MK Dons out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranquelme Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I would love to make River Plate a giant again. But I always had a dislike to them as I preferred Boca Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 If you are after a proper challenge, apart from the usual Sheffield Wednesday/Nottingham Forest type suggestions...try this:http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2011/2/6/the-fallen-giants-of-spanish-football.html Does FM12 go down as far as 'Segunda Division B'? Yes, all four divisions of the Segunda B are featured. Some good "fallen giants" to try: 2ªB1 - Real Oviedo, Tenerife, Albacete 2ªB2 - Alavés, Real Unión (four times Spanish Cup winners, pre-1930) 2ªB3 - Lleida Esportiu (formerly just Lleida) 2ªB4 - Cádiz Meanwhile, next step up in Liga Adelante, most prominent "fallen giants" would probably be: Celta Vigo, Real Valladolid, Deportivo de la Coruña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suckerkevin Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 How exactly are Liverpool a fallen giant? They was a big team, you cant really say they are a giant now. They are a team fighting for CL spot. A really big team back then. Sure they did won UCL few years ago. But when was the last time won the league? 18 titles and no more. I doubt they will win the league in the next 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbentley22 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Bradford Park Avenue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimitar Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Borussia Mönchengladbach - Germany Bologna and Genoa - Italy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 What about Torino? I don't know if they were truly big, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeeboy15 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Celta Vigo and Deportivo La Coruna both once Champions League Outfits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightonrock Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 They was a big team, you cant really say they are a giant now. They are a team fighting for CL spot.A really big team back then. Sure they did won UCL few years ago. But when was the last time won the league? 18 titles and no more. I doubt they will win the league in the next 3 years. Of course they're a giant, if they're a side in contention for European qualification, they're still spending £20m+ on players like Suarez, Carroll, Downing. They've only 'fallen' from the best team to the 5th or 6th best in 20 years. Not exactly a meteoric descent is it. Leeds/Notts Forest are sides who have reached European finals, playing in lower divisions, that's what quantifies a fallen giant. And besides, the OP did say non-British teams. Deportivo are a good example; Champions League regulars only a few years ago. THAT's a fallen giant. If Liverpool get relegated this season, then they'd qualify. Not finishing in the top 4 doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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