Football Manager 2018 *Official* Feedback Thread

[fm2020.smith]

lol you guys make me laugh. i got a warning because i mentioned the word coders? i didnt critisice anyone in particular. these forums are a joke nowadays, critisice something and you get castrated, dont agree and get castrated,. my criticism was frustration at playing the game in march and we still have lots of problems. think you mods need to learn how to deal with people and when people are frustrated giving them a warning isnt the done thing !!

Edited March 13, 2018 by fm2020.smith

[XaW]

Just now, jamessmith010101 said:

lol you guys make me laugh. i got a warning because i mentioned the word coders? i didnt critisice anyone in particular. these forums are a joke nowadays, critisice something and you get castrated, dont agree and get castrated,. my criticism was frustration at playing the game in march and we still have lots of problems. think you mods need to learn how to deal with people and when people are frustrated giving them a warning is the done thing !!

That's not the issue here. No one in here have stated you cannot criticize the game. However it should be constructive. If you feel a feature isn't working as you want, then you explain how you think it should work and show evidence to prove your point. For instance, if Pep Guardiola started to play hoofball in every match, then you can easily show that this is erroneous. Or, if you feel there are too few goal celebrations from players then explain show some examples of players doing the same each and every game and that you want to see more variation. Those are just some random examples and if you state WHAT you are unhappy about then at least SI know how you feel and might do something about it further down the line.

If you keep saying "the coding is blah" and "hire someone who knows how to code", when you quite frankly don't even know what you on about, your opinion will be ignored and rightfully so. It's not about the message, it's about how you convey it. If I were a customer at your place and I ran up to you and started to shout expletives at you, would that motive you to do things better? Not likely. You would at least not try to please me. However, if a customer came to you and stated that he felt that your product would be better if you did X or Y then you might listen.

If you are so frustrated that you cannot avoid ranting then take a time of here, go for a walk, hang out with friends of family and then come back in a better mood and calmly explain what you want to change and how.

[fm2020.smith]

3 minutes ago, XaW said:

That's not the issue here. No one in here have stated you cannot criticize the game. However it should be constructive. If you feel a feature isn't working as you want, then you explain how you think it should work and show evidence to prove your point. For instance, if Pep Guardiola started to play hoofball in every match, then you can easily show that this is erroneous. Or, if you feel there are too few goal celebrations from players then explain show some examples of players doing the same each and every game and that you want to see more variation. Those are just some random examples and if you state WHAT you are unhappy about then at least SI know how you feel and might do something about it further down the line.

If you keep saying "the coding is blah" and "hire someone who knows how to code", when you quite frankly don't even know what you on about, your opinion will be ignored and rightfully so. It's not about the message, it's about how you convey it. If I were a customer at your place and I ran up to you and started to shout expletives at you, would that motive you to do things better? Not likely. You would at least not try to please me. However, if a customer came to you and stated that he felt that your product would be better if you did X or Y then you might listen.

If you are so frustrated that you cannot avoid ranting then take a time of here, go for a walk, hang out with friends of family and then come back in a better mood and calmly explain what you want to change and how.

actually if you ran up to me and shouted at me and shouted expletives i would think there was something wrong and find out what it is and put in place something to put it right. thats what you do when you own a company you listen. no matter what the criticism you always listen. you never stop listen otherwise your company stands still and you get left behind. fortunatly for si there are no competitors really but you can see already there issues. i read the forums. i see others criticism. then they shut up as they are warned because they dont say what they are told to say by the mods. its been the same for years, criticise and and you get burnt. 

[XaW]

1 minute ago, jamessmith010101 said:

actually if you ran up to me and shouted at me and shouted expletives i would think there was something wrong and find out what it is and put in place something to put it right. thats what you do when you own a company you listen. no matter what the criticism you always listen. you never stop listen otherwise your company stands still and you get left behind. fortunatly for si there are no competitors really but you can see already there issues. i read the forums. i see others criticism. then they shut up as they are warned because they dont say what they are told to say by the mods. its been the same for years, criticise and and you get burnt. 

I guess you've never worked directly with customers then? I have and I can tell you right now, the old phrase "the customer is always right" is far from the truth. "The customer is an idiot that don't know what they want and will shout at you know matter how good your product is" is a far more correct. When I were a teenager I worked as a casheer at a supermarket while I was a student and I regularly got yelled at because of the prices. Because a 19 year old casheer decides the prices in the store, right? I've also worked at a helpdesk with IT support for a while and I got yelled at a lot because users are idiots. I got a several minute lang rant from a guy because his monitor had become black/white instead of colors and I didn't want to help him change the color cartridge... Chew on that for a while...

If you take a look at my post history then you will see I have given my inputs on things that don't work in FM or things I would like to see improved and criticized things in the game and I haven't gotten a single warning or message from the mods telling me to stop. I have said I think we are missing transitional instructions in the tactical instructions, too poor information to the user regarding why their tactics aren't working, AI in general and to transfers and squad management in particular. I want the AI to be better at handling "super tactics" and show more awareness (to avoid the "3 fishermen tactics" for example). All these things are critique to the game, but I've posted them in a manner I feel are constructive, but still honest about what's wrong. At the same time I've posted several times what I think works and how other users can get their game to work if they have misunderstood something. Regarding that, I think the game doesn't explain the concepts well enough to the user and there are some counterintuitive explanations in the game, but others, such as @Svenc, have gone far deeper into that in several posts with far better writing than I can.

[themadsheep2001]

50 minutes ago, jamessmith010101 said:

lol you guys make me laugh. i got a warning because i mentioned the word coders? i didnt critisice anyone in particular. these forums are a joke nowadays, critisice something and you get castrated, dont agree and get castrated,. my criticism was frustration at playing the game in march and we still have lots of problems. think you mods need to learn how to deal with people and when people are frustrated giving them a warning isnt the done thing !!

This is a complete lie James. As I said to you, you're allowed to criticise as long as it's constructive and not personal. You failed this on both accounts. 

The rules aren't a point of debate on any account. So this matter is closed, and other posts along these lines will be dealt with accordingly. I suggest we all get back to the point of the thread. 

[fm2020.smith]

what was personal ?

[themadsheep2001]

1 hour ago, diddydaddydoddy said:

Key word there is 'constructive'. If you're not happy with something then fair enough but I wish people would have the decency of cohesively stating what they thinks wrong, what they think it should be and back it up with stats/evidence/examples etc. That way SI have a fighting chance of responding - and if they don't then that's the time to ask why?

This is all they ask, and there's been some really good points made (going to name check the likes of @MBarbaric and @Svenc) they are excellent examples of how to get your point across 

[Lucas]

1 hour ago, jamessmith010101 said:

what was personal ?

You're entitled to air your feedback and frustration is understandable. What it shows is that you're passionate for the game and we get that, passion is welcomed. But the boundary is overstepped when you call out staff, it's unacceptable and one of the reasons [some] devs unfortunately don't engage here. I'd suggest reading this in particular: 

This is a general point but it very much applies here too - Tone and the way in which you express yourself matters, whether that is to us or to anybody else you will meet and interact with. There is no problem here giving your criticism done the right way, but you haven't done that. Please think about how you say things, before you say them. It will go a long way to how other users and people respond to your points if you can express them without going into negative tones and letting your frustrations boil over. Thanks.

 

[Guest]

12 hours ago, jamessmith010101 said:

lol you guys make me laugh. i got a warning because i mentioned the word coders? i didnt critisice anyone in particular. these forums are a joke nowadays, critisice something and you get castrated, dont agree and get castrated,. my criticism was frustration at playing the game in march and we still have lots of problems. think you mods need to learn how to deal with people and when people are frustrated giving them a warning isnt the done thing !!

Completely untrue, I’ve been incredibly critical of FM over the last 18 months & have managed to do so without incurring any warnings or infractions.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, XaW said:

I guess you've never worked directly with customers then? I have and I can tell you right now, the old phrase "the customer is always right" is far from the truth. "The customer is an idiot that don't know what they want and will shout at you know matter how good your product is" is a far more correct.  

So true, always thought I was alone in knowing that the customer is often an idiot.

[XaW]

10 minutes ago, Barside said:

So true, always thought I was alone in knowing that the customer is often an idiot.

Yeah, a year as a casheer at a supermarket and a couple of years as IT support have lead to this conclusion.

Now I'm working with developing software for a customer and I spend a lot of time explaining to the customer their wishes and requests should not be implemented and why. If I had implemented all they asked for I would have broken our product and probably lost the customer because of it. One of the biggest parts of my job is telling the customer "NO" in way to make them feel they are doing the decision. So blindly listening to the costumer is not a good approach when developing software.

Edited March 14, 2018 by XaW

[penza]

56 minutes ago, Barside said:

Completely untrue, I’ve been incredibly critical of FM over the last 18 months & have managed to do so without incurring any warnings or infractions.

yeah same .... but it is also true that a lot of feedback gets ignored i.e. free kicks have been an issue since BETA, long shots are not realistic, Messi/Coutinho should not be shooting to the corner flag regardless of instructions, all these issues are there since BETA .... next year I will wait for "19.3" before I buy it as its just become ridiculous, I waited 3 months for these issues to be fixed (from 18.2 to 18.3) patch comes out ... nothing has changed unbelievable! it is is what it is ... its a game but what a shame, even if SI are working on fm19 and maybe these issues will be fixed.... but from BETA to 18.3 you have to wait 6 months for a decent game! whats the point......

Edited March 14, 2018 by penza

[forameuss]

1 hour ago, Barside said:

So true, always thought I was alone in knowing that the customer is often an idiot.

Absolutely not alone in that.  The old "customer is always right" line is usually only rolled out when the customer is being inherently unreasonable.

57 minutes ago, penza said:

yeah same .... but it is also true that a lot of feedback gets ignored i.e. free kicks have been an issue since BETA, long shots are not realistic, Messi/Coutinho should not be shooting to the corner flag regardless of instructions, all these issues are there since BETA .... next year I will wait for "19.3" before I buy it as its just become ridiculous, I waited 3 months for these issues to be fixed (from 18.2 to 18.3) patch comes out ... nothing has changed unbelievable! it is is what it is ... its a game but what a shame, even if SI are working on fm19 and maybe these issues will be fixed.... but from BETA to 18.3 you have to wait 6 months for a decent game! whats the point......

I think it's a bit harsh to say ignored.  I completely get why some people would think that, as once you report something, it's a black box that either ends with a fix or nothing.  That black box may contain them just ignoring it, but it's far more likely to contain them working to solve it, but either unable to find a solution, or just unable to find one that doesn't break something else.  ME issues in particular.  

Of course, if communication was better at that stage, the black box itself would become a bit more transparent, but certain people ruined that for everyone, so I doubt that'll change.

12 hours ago, jamessmith010101 said:

what was personal ?

You said, and I quote, "just get some people in who can code properly".  Can you really not see why that would be considered personal? 

[CaptainSa]

Can at some point someone address the 'I've been playing since the x days' meme. No one cares that you're old enough to have the played the game on the amiga, jeez.

[HUNT3R]

2 hours ago, penza said:

yeah same .... but it is also true that a lot of feedback gets ignored i.e. free kicks have been an issue since BETA, long shots are not realistic, Messi/Coutinho should not be shooting to the corner flag regardless of instructions, all these issues are there since BETA .... next year I will wait for "19.3" before I buy it as its just become ridiculous, I waited 3 months for these issues to be fixed (from 18.2 to 18.3) patch comes out ... nothing has changed unbelievable! it is is what it is ... its a game but what a shame, even if SI are working on fm19 and maybe these issues will be fixed.... but from BETA to 18.3 you have to wait 6 months for a decent game! whats the point......

Nothing was ignored regarding free-kicks. 

https://community.sigames.com/topic/426773-long-shots-and-shooting-in-general/?do=findComment&comment=11255759

[MrPompey]

19 hours ago, jamessmith010101 said:

why do we have to wait until 2019 for them to get it right ? just get some people in who can code properly and get the game doing exactly what it says on the tin. this game is going backwards each year in terms of the me and by the time they fix it ish he next onne is out and we go round and round in a circle again 

We have had the last update for FM18, thats the Winter Update with the Winter transfers and data updates and minor changes. there were no ME changes mentioned in the SI confirmation of the update. This is generally how the whole process works. What we have now for FM18 is just that

I expect they will be focusing on FM19 now and hopefully that includes some of the key elements we have mentioned in this thread

 

 

[MrPompey]

22 minutes ago, HUNT3R said:

Nothing was ignored regarding free-kicks. 

https://community.sigames.com/topic/426773-long-shots-and-shooting-in-general/?do=findComment&comment=11255759

I dont think the number of free kicks or their conversion is the issue (well maybe for some it is  ). Goals scored from free kicks in real life is low I believe, I think last season the highest number scored in the premiership by one team was 3 (liverpool?)

The issue is how they are displayed by the ME graphically.  Virtually each one going over the bar is not right. Should be some close, should be some wayward,  some wide of gioal, some deflected, some should be side netting, should be roof netting, should be easy GK save, should be medium GK save, should be great GK save, woodwork etc. Need to match some of the football realities that we see in real life where possible

[fm2020.smith]

thats not right though surely @MrPompey ? we should expect a game better than 2017 shouldnt we or am i alone in thinking you pay 30.00 for something worse than before ?

also lets touch on a few of your points here. @forameuss

your attack on customers and they aare not right does not surprise me one bit. you should always listen to a customer regardless of your point of view. 1 its your job and 2 they may have  valid point amongst their rantings to not listen shows an unproffessional approach to customer services and arrogance that has no place in any company.

when something does not go right the customer does something called the sarah approach, we all do it. wether you have to deal with grief, a game going wrong, putting up n argos wardrobe or anything that gets you frustrated. shock. anger. resistance. acceptance. healing/hope. the customer may not always be right but they should always be listened to and to ignore that is a failure of any company.

also boys allow me to let you know what personal is. as per google and the dictionary.....belonging to or affecting a particular person rather than anyone else.   stating coders is not a personal attack on anyone as it was not personal. if your going to quote something or try to be clever and issue warnings for being personal then get it right 

 

 

Edited March 14, 2018 by fm2020.smith

[HUNT3R]

@jamessmith010101 give it a rest, please. Lucas has linked you to a thread that explains what it's all about.

--

And to everyone, let's stick to feedback (constructive feedback, positive or negative) on the game, please.

[penza]

1 hour ago, HUNT3R said:

Nothing was ignored regarding free-kicks. 

https://community.sigames.com/topic/426773-long-shots-and-shooting-in-general/?do=findComment&comment=11255759

a feedback saying: its the same as real life (every season is different so how can you base this on stats?) is basically ignoring it, if in-game there is a 'free kick specialist' as a regen/created player I would expect him to score a lot more than 1 free kick in 3 seasons (which is an issue from BETA i.e. 6 months ago)

Edited March 14, 2018 by penza

[Etebaer]

A Link to a pretty recent german article regarding Goals form "Standards" as the german term is (includes Corners and Free Kicks, sometimes also penalties)

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1802/Artikel/standardsituationen-in-der-liga-im-ruhenden-ball-liegt-die-kraft.html

German Bundesliga has Close to 40% of the Goals happen from a "Standard".

Premier League has Close to 25% of the Goals happen from a "Standard".

Other leagues are in between - the articel does not Show how much Goals are from direct free kicks but individual Players score direct or assist more than 3 times a Season for sure.

SC Freiburg scores more than 60% of their Goals from Standards thx to Lars Voßler.

Not to optimize the usage of "Standards" is a great negligence and leaves success potential unexploited!!!

[penza]

3 minutes ago, Etebaer said:

A Link to a pretty recent german article regarding Goals form "Standards" as the german term is (includes Corners and Free Kicks, sometimes also penalties)

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1802/Artikel/standardsituationen-in-der-liga-im-ruhenden-ball-liegt-die-kraft.html

German Bundesliga has Close to 40% of the Goals happen from a "Standard".

Premier League has Close to 25% of the Goals happen from a "Standard".

Other leagues are in between - the articel does not Show how much Goals are from direct free kicks but individual Players score direct or assist more than 3 times a Season for sure.

SC Freiburg scores more than 60% of their Goals from Standards thx to Lars Voßler.

Not to optimize the usage of "Standards" is a great negligence and leaves success potential unexploited!!!

In FM in no way 25-40% of goals come from corners, free kicks and/or penalties, I hardly score from corners/free kicks .. only penalties are quite often! 

[XaW]

Well, to give a bit more concise feedback now that we are back to it:

1. In general I'm enjoying the game and think FM as a series keeps improving. While there are certain things I would like to be improved, my more than 500 hours played have resulted in me getting value for my moneys worth.

2. I would like to se more contextual feedback regarding tactics. As many have stated both in this thread and elsewhere, it's not very easy to know what is working and what is not with tactics unless the user spends a lot of time researching how tactics work in FM specifically. I would like to see the assistant give better advise and explain why X isn't helping and we should do Y instead. Example: Issue is too many long shots. Feedback from the assistant: "We are shooting from range too much. The reason seems to be too few options in attacking positions as seen in the shot at 58:30 in the last match (link to highlight). If we were to give the fullbacks more freedom to go forward and stay wider then they might give the attacking players more options, at least in matches we dominate. This might leave us more open to counterattacks though, so we might also want to have one of the central midfielders drop deeper to remedy that".

Of course, it's then up to the user to make the changes and see if the changes give the desired result. This needs to be suited to the actual issues the user have and might require a better AI to handle.

3. Regarding better AI. I would like the AI to understand why their own tactics keep getting busted by things like "the three fishermen" that are quite common this time around. Not that the AI will perfectly counter whatever the user are doing, but recognizing huge flaws in their own tactical aspect rather than switching between different pre-set tactics (if that is the case now, it seems like it). This will help out with the assistant advise above as well.

4. Better AI squad management and transfers. When playing for a lot of years in game a lot of squads are unbalanced with too many players in certain positions and not enough players in others. The AI also seem to prefer "real" players ahead of newgens in ways I don't quite understand. How AI managers train players is also an issue and it seems AI managers don't suit training to fit their own favored formations. E.g. a manager using wingbacks, but keep buying AML/AMR and then just transferlisting them after a short while since they don't fit the formation.

5. Newgens more suited to the actual formations the user plays. As someone who plays a lot of youth challenges I really enjoy developing youth players. However it seems the newgens that come through are totally unfamiliar with the 1st team tactics when coming through the ranks. E.g. if I play without an AMC, then the game regularly gives me players in that position and the player are not at all suited to any of the real roles I'm using. This might happen every once in a while, but the youth players should be, before they enter the FM world, trained with a long term aim of playing for the first team, then the youth teams would try to tailor the player into a player that the first team might actually have need of. Another part of this are players who are completely unsuited statwise for their position. If I'm at a top club I shouldn't get a goalkeeper at 1,60 meters. Nor a centerback at that height. A defensive midfielder who cannot tackle isn't very suited either.

6. I've suggested this in the suggestion subforum, but I'll say it once again. Transitional instructions is needed. We are not capable of implementing things like how the team should do transitions and thus it's not possible to do things like Klopp's Liverpool. "When the ball is lost high closing down all over the pitch for a short while, if the opponent plays it of, retreat into own half and close down normally". "If ball is won and it's a chance of a counterattack, very high tempo, forwards runs from all players and play much more direct, should the defending team stop the counter, go back to playing short passes and slow tempo". Different tactical instructions based on transitional phases.

I'll think some more and add to this should something else come to mind.

[MrPompey]

1 minute ago, penza said:

a feedback saying: its the same as real life (every season is different so how can you base this on stats?) is basically ignoring it, if in-game there is a 'free kick specialist' as a regen I would expect him to score a lot more than 1 free kick in 3 seasons

Only 3 clubs in the premiership scored 3 goals from direct free licks in the 2016/2017 season, see link below. I'm not sure what the stats are for other leagues

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/inglaterra/2016_2017/ranking/equipos/goles_favor_falta_directa/

 

[penza]

8 minutes ago, MrPompey said:

Only 3 clubs in the premiership scored 3 goals from direct free licks in the 2016/2017 season, see link below. I'm not sure what the stats are for other leagues

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/inglaterra/2016_2017/ranking/equipos/goles_favor_falta_directa/

 

but thats the problem with 'stats' one season coutinho could score 8, the next 1 ... you cant base a game on stats its completely wrong, by the way its still a lot more than in my games... in serie A there was maybe 5-6 free kicks scored in TOTAL in 1 season

Edited March 14, 2018 by penza

[MrPompey]

4 minutes ago, penza said:

but thats the problem with 'stats' one season coutinho could score 8, the next 1 ... you cant base a game on stats its completely wrong

Well I think to enable you to understand if this is wrong then you need to check real life stats. I expect most people will be surprised how few goals are scored these days

Again, for the premiership, only 1 player in the last 6 or so years has scored 4 goals from a direct free kick in a season. The average appears 2 to 3 a season....in the premiership

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/att_freekick_goal

You can't ignore what happens in real life There will be exceptions irl as there will be in FM I'm sure. i agree you need to allow  for freedom for events such as Leicester winning the premiership irl

 

[penza]

1 minute ago, MrPompey said:

Well I think to enable you to understand if this is wrong then you need to check real life stats. I expect most people will be surprised how few goals are scored these days

Again, for the premiership, only 1 player in the last 6 or so years has scored 4 goals from a direct free kick. The average appears 2 to 3 a season....in the premiership

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/att_freekick_goal

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/italia/2016_2017/ranking/equipos/goles_favor_falta_directa/

nearly 30 free kick goals.... in my game 5 ... where's the link between them? come on there is a point where enough is enough defending a game which is not realistic

[themadsheep2001]

2 minutes ago, penza said:

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/italia/2016_2017/ranking/equipos/goles_favor_falta_directa/

nearly 30 free kick goals.... in my game 5 ... where's the link between them? come on there is a point where enough is enough defending a game which is not realistic

This doesn't make sense. You just said he can't base a game on stats, but you're using stats to make your own point...

[MrPompey]

1 minute ago, penza said:

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/italia/2016_2017/ranking/equipos/goles_favor_falta_directa/

nearly 30 free kick goals.... in my game 5 ... where's the link between them? come on there is a point where enough is enough defending a game which is not realistic

I dont see your point. Juventus aside the other clubs are 2 to 3 each or less. You need to look at the club averages over multiple seasons 

[penza]

in 2016-2017 there was over 20 free kicks scored in EPL... 12 in 2017-2018 it varies too much to base this on stats but 2017-2018 could easily get to 20 you never know

[penza]

1 minute ago, themadsheep2001 said:

This doesn't make sense. You just said he can't base a game on stats, but you're using stats to make your own point...

no SI keep pointing to the stats saying 'we are aligned to the stats' what stats? 

[penza]

1 minute ago, MrPompey said:

I dont see your point. Juventus aside the other clubs are 2 to 3 each or less. You need to look at the club averages over multiple seasons 

i am talking about 'overall' i see 10 free kicks or less in every league while most leagues have 20 average i am not talking about 'by team' AND the fact that if you are to have a regen with 'great free kick abilities' greater than any in-game player you should see him scoring more.... which isnt the case

[MrPompey]

1 minute ago, penza said:

in 2016-2017 there was over 20 free kicks scored in EPL... 12 in 2017-2018 it varies too much to base this on stats but 2017-2018 could easily get to 20 you never know

but the highest for 1 club was 3, that was Liverpool. Look at the 2nd link I posted for the averages over multiple seasons

[penza]

I just give up...this isn't a feedback thread anymore , there isn't a long shot problem, free kicks are perfect well done SI  

[MrPompey]

Just now, penza said:

i am talking about 'overall' i see 10 free kicks or less in every league while most leagues have 20 average i am not talking about 'by team' AND the fact that if you are to have a regen with 'great free kick abilities' greater than any in-game player you should see him scoring more.... which isnt the case

You have completely ruined your statements. first you are talking about players scoring free kicks per seaon, then a club, then total free kicks scored in a league

Why should you expect a player to score on a rough average more in FM than in real life.  Sorry mate but you have ruined your own argument. You wont convince SI or anyone with those posts Im afraid

[penza]

Just now, MrPompey said:

You have completely ruined your statements. first you are talking about players scoring free kicks per seaon, then a club, then total free kicks scored in a league

Why should you expect a player to score on a rough average more in FM than in real life.  Sorry mate but you have ruined your own argument. You wont convince SI or anyone with those posts Im afraid

totally i completed ruined my statements! sorry for posting I retract everything.

[Svenc]

Cheers for the mentions guys. I personally think the major issue still in the apparently superior FM17 was a pretty big one, but apparently it didn't cause as much of a stir, even though it allowed fourth division sides to decently control the pitch against top division teams on the occasion. It also was postponed and only adressed by FM18 likewise, and I personally can completely understand why it was done (though I am still curious about it). Key bit is probably to recognize and accept that different players value differnt things. Plus, also may see things differently. At some point there's only this much you can argue, plus it's acknowledged that there's stuff to improve either ways.

I think this thread needs a bit of a comic relief of kinds. #diffusing the drama bomb #calling Miles to the rescue.
 

 

Edited March 14, 2018 by Svenc

[herne79]

6 minutes ago, Svenc said:

I think this thread needs a bit of a comic relief

 

40 minutes ago, MrPompey said:

Only 3 clubs in the premiership scored 3 goals from direct free licks in the 2016/2017 season

MrPompey way ahead of you there svenc, form an orderly queue for your direct free licks before FIFA ban them .

[MrPompey]

Free licks are helpful when you have a tikka Messalla in midfield

Not seen that clip (with a "p" not a "t" before I go on about free licks again). Thats pretty funny 

[MrPompey]

PS - in FM we still want to see the randomness of football we see in irl in FM e.g. a Div 1 side beating the to be runaway winners of the Premiership this season

[MrPompey]

23 hours ago, penza said:

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/italia/2016_2017/ranking/equipos/goles_favor_falta_directa/

nearly 30 free kick goals.... in my game 5 ... where's the link between them? come on there is a point where enough is enough defending a game which is not realistic

I'm not defending the game, I'm actually asking for free kick variation. I just mentioned FM stats to Premierships stats for direct free kick conversion in response to a query someone had regarding player stats for free kicks (or licks :)).  I've not looked at other leagues

I've also posted extensively in the bug forums with pkms of examples around defensive positioning and marking  and closing down ball carrier as have others etc so I am sure SI are aware. How easy to resolve if believed to be an issue is a different matter but we know the ME is complicated

On the other side of the coin I posted a fair bit over 2 releases about the issue of top 10 player average ratings favouring DL's and defensive players in general. Fair play to SI's Nick as he worked with us and got this resolved this release for both full fat ME and half fat ME

As in life working together is the key bit rather than against each other

[kandersson]

Ok after 18.3.2 this is still an issue, this is incredibly annoying and disappointing as this was working before patch 18.3. This is pretty much game breaking for me and while I do appreciate the help and possible workaround given by a moderator in the skinning forum I'm not really thrilled to spend hours (it would be hours for someone with no editing skills or experience like me) to learn how to fix something that's supposed to be working and was actually working before 18.3. Please SI provide a fix or a solution, a minimum resolution for this game was never announced, I've had a number of unannounced issues and limitations (all reported since beta) with my 1360 x 768 resolution, which was already disappointing (as there were no hints or warnings) but this one is game breaking for me. FM 18 has been so frustrating for me it's actually become quite funny.

 

[kingjericho]

I don't know if was caused by the 18.3.1 hotfix, but I've been on the same save since October and last week I had the game crash for the first time, 3 times in the space of a week. I haven't played with the new fix yet but I'll keep an eye on this.

[The Wet Jigsaw!]

I've only just purchased the game, but the bug where you can't mark the man on the edge of the box for opposition free kicks gets real old, real quick.

[Altair]

Im having crashdump all the time since last patch (summer 2019) what a disaster edition is this fm2018.

[Prej]

Hi there, I didn't get an answer from SI over in the FMT section, so I'd like to ask here (maybe it's the same issue with FM).

Why is the option to view past managers gone from "Landmarks" in team history? Is this a feature? A bug? Is this intended?

[Guest]

Possible reason could be to save memory allocation.

[fm2020.smith]

contructive feedback. in march about 4 or 5 patches down. so i have players who have joined me and still play for their old clubs ? i cant pick them as they are always inelligible to play as already played or too tired. i have players who are cup tied for me despite never actually playing for anyone else ?

the crossing bug is still there, when i looked at how and why it became obviose as the opposition were scoring by actually going through my players for easy headers. ie it was lilke my players were invisible as the opp just went right through them.

premiership teams dominating far too much in europe, this seems to be mainly to do with the poor transfer system in that barca madrid munich psg just arnt buying any big name players. 4 champs league finals all english

players dont seem to be progressing ie re gens at other clubs. so few young players have good stats for their positions. ie wingers hardly any young if any are good at dribbling or crossing. strikers lacking basic finishing or pace or off the ball. midfielders lacking bite or passing or vision. when you do a search you get the same older players coming up all the time.

players asking to play or they leave so you play them except if they are injured and then  because you didnt play them when they were out for a few weeks they ask to go 

full back still slowing down when tracking attacking players allowing the easy cross. this has been an issue for the years, cant understand why they dont fix, is a cause of the cross and goal bug too many easy crosses when the fb looks like he has control

data analyst view, still cant see the ball despite this being an issue since beta. there are no shadows so you have no idea wether the ball has gone high or low or anything 

also half the time you cant see the ball at all it just blends into the grass so you have to guess where its gone 

Edited March 16, 2018 by fm2020.smith

[kosecki99]

Update ME, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Altair]

hace 19 minutos, kosecki99 dijo:

Update ME, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It wont be another update. This is how they works: 1 patch one month after release, another one in Christmas and the last one end February/March with the winter transfers update.

You better wait for FM19 another $60 and better luck next year.