Insipidus Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Still absolute knee-jerk bollocks in here after a defeat then? who's knee jerking? i dont rate allen, i dont rate sturridge and i dont rate rodgers. theyre consistent views from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipidus Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 But it helps you have him. Suarez has more of a free-role and the formation with Sturridge as CF has showed it can work. Also his finishing was bad against Spurs but he caused them a lot of problems with this movement. It may not be you who said that he was a good buy but his first few games, a lot of people on this thread thought it was an excellent signing. Me as a Chelsea fan think you have a terrific CF in him. Just needs a whole season to prove it. He is selfish sometimes yes but it is good that someone can take away the burden of Suarez. well thats debatable. it may help free up suarez (although i would argue it just means hes deeper with the same amount of "freeness" now, rather than being "free-er"), but it means the entire shape of the team needed to be altered to fit him in and stop suarez having to play from wide. we look a lot less balanced playing 4231 than we did in a 433. thats my number one concern here, and my concerns with sturridge as a player are all secondary to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Still absolute knee-jerk bollocks in here after a defeat then? So hard to resist the temptation of a rant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Still absolute knee-jerk bollocks in here after a defeat then? Did you expect any different? Absolute joke at times this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Can't see how people are saying Insipidus is knee jerking with his reactions, I don't agree with his points on Stirridge but both Allen and Rodgers are poor in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Can't see how people are saying Insipidus is knee jerking with his reactions, I don't agree with his points on Stirridge but both Allen and Rodgers are poor in my opinion. So the answer is get rid of Rodgers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Win a game = "We can get fourth!" Lose a game = "Rodgers out!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Win a game = "We can get fourth!"Lose a game = "Rodgers out!" This pretty much sums it up. It is like reading things posted by primary school kids in this thread at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 It's not childishness, it's passion. Aren't Liverpool doing a lot better than last season, going by that game on game table anyway? Wonder what some fans want, not like Rodgers has been able to make massive changes with what he inherited, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 It's not childishness, it's passion. No!!! All of us have passion, but the expectancy of some people is laughable. We played really poor today and I am not hiding that but those wanting Rodgers out just need a bit of a slap really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 not like Rodgers has been able to make massive changes with what he inherited, Spent £40m. Not a bad amount. You lot were never going to get 4th this season anyway so it was a case of steadily improve on last season which he has done (To a certain degree). The real test is next season when he gets to put his stamp on the defence more. That is where it will be make or break for him as a Liverpool manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Jesus christ. pearcey actually says something sensible . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Jesus christ. pearcey actually says something sensible . Just need you to do the same now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Just need you to do the same now Cheeky swine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Just need you to do the same now Ditto . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Ditto . Now hey!!!! Feck, can't infract mods can we Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Spent £40m. Not a bad amount. if the figures on the wiki are accurate its more like £47m, and that is not counting whatever loan fee that was spent on ŞahinFabio Borini £8m Joe Allen £15m Oussama Assaidi £2,5m Samed Yesil £1m Daniel Sturridge £12m Philippe Coutinho £8,5m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Now hey!!!! Feck, can't infract mods can we Isn't Icelander saying the same could be said for CP, rather than agreeing with him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Isn't Icelander saying the same could be said for CP, rather than agreeing with him? I was indeed, but SRL taking it to mean him makes it so that it can certainly be meant that way and it still fits beautifully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Isn't Icelander saying the same could be said for CP, rather than agreeing with him? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I was indeed, but SRL taking it to mean him makes it so that it can certainly be meant that way and it still fits beautifully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Ditto . Go back to world domination you git! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 if the figures on the wiki are accurate its more like £47m, and that is not counting whatever loan fee that was spent on Şahin He sold some players too which was around 8m so works out about £40m in end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He sold some players too which was around 8m so works out about £40m in end.then why did you not mention you was talking about net spending in your first post on the subject? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Only person I detest out of that game is Skrtel. May not have been the worst on the pitch, but looked the least bothered, constantly let runners go, left players unmarked. Completely inept under this system, needs to be sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 From player of the year.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Ho hum usual knee jerk bollox from the usual suspects get a grip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipidus Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 This pretty much sums it up.It is like reading things posted by primary school kids in this thread at times. can you stop peddling this nonsense? one liverpool fan saying one thing after one game, and another saying something different after another IS NOT FLIP FLOPPING. really annoying, this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 When people stop with utter tosh such as wanting 'Rodgers out' then maybe I will stop saying people are acting like primary school kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipidus Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 oh i see. not allowed an opinion unless i give it whilst blindfolded then. im not going into it again because ive given my views on rodgers plenty in here, but i just dont think hes the man to take liverpool forward. what exactly is wrong with stating that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I don't think anyone has said that based on this game alone. Some have said he (including me) badly messed up the line up yesterday (which he did), and only one so far has said he's never wanted him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Numerous have said that they don't want Rodgers. Not just one. But either way, we've improved on last season, so based on that, in a manager's first year, I'm ****ing baffled as to how anyone can claim he's doing a bad job. Isn't improvement what we are looking for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 The Rodgers out brigade, along with the slating Sturridge platoon, need their heads examining. We've improved a lot this season, and as frustrating as it is to watch, consistency is the hardest thing to find in football. Rodgers team selection was **** poor yesterday, and he needs to learn from it as much as the players need to learn from a defeat. What would getting rid of him at the end of the season accomplish do we think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Wow, finally watched the highlights from yesterday and EVERY attacking highlight for Soton (I was basically just watching him), Skrtel was absoloutely terrible Looks like he'd been plucked off the street to fill in, so little awareness of what was happening around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 got to give enrique some credit. playing miles better than the rest of the back 4 in recent weeks. what was lucas doing for their 3rd though? half arsed tracking back and lazy, didnt even have the excuse he was tired. he's there to protect the back 4 and that 'attempt' was awful. or am i not allowed to say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 RESULTS COMPARISON CHART 2012/13 Reading = Bolton Southampton = Blackburn West Ham = Wolves Points Last season This season Diff Now Last -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18/08/2012 West Brom v Liverpool W 0-2 L 3-0 -3 26/08/2012 Liverpool v Man City D 1-1 D 2-2 -3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 02/09/2012 Liverpool v Arsenal L 1-2 L 0-2 -3 15/09/2012 Sunderland v Liverpool L 1-0 D 1-1 -2 23/09/2012 Liverpool v Man Utd D 1-1 L 1-2 -3 29/09/2012 Norwich v Liverpool W 0-3 W 2-5 -3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 06/10/2012 Liverpool v Stoke D 0-0 D 0-0 -3 20/10/2012 Liverpool v Reading W 3-1 W 1-0 -3 27/10/2012 Everton v Liverpool W 0-2 D 2-2 -5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 04/11/2012 Liverpool v Newcastle W 3-1 D 1-1 -7 11/11/2012 Chelsea v Liverpool W 1-2 D 1-1 -9 17/11/2012 Liverpool v Wigan L 1-2 W 3-0 -6 24/11/2012 Swansea v Liverpool L 0-1 D 0-0 -5 28/11/2012 Tottenham v Liverpool L 4-0 L 2-1 -5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01/12/2012 Liverpool v Southampton D 1-1 W 1-0 -3 08/12/2012 West Ham v Liverpool W 0-3 W 2-3 -3 15/12/2012 Liverpool v Aston Villa D 1-1 L 1-3 -4 22/12/2012 Liverpool v Fulham L 0-1 W 4-0 -1 26/12/2012 Stoke v Liverpool L 1-0 L 3-1 -1 29/12/2012 QPR v Liverpool L 3-2 W 0-3 +2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01/01/2013 Liverpool v Sunderland D 1-1 W 3-0 +4 12/01/2013 Man Utd v Liverpool L 2-1 L 2-1 +4 19/01/2013 Liverpool v Norwich D 1-1 W 5-0 +6 30/01/2013 Arsenal v Liverpool W 0-2 D 2-2 +4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 02/02/2013 Man City v Liverpool L 3-0 D 2-2 +5 09/02/2013 Liverpool v West Brom L 0-1 L 0-2 +5 23/02/2013 Liverpool v Swansea D 0-0 W 5-0 +7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 02/03/2013 Wigan v Liverpool D 0-0 W 0-4 +9 42 42 09/03/2013 Liverpool v Tottenham D 0-0 W 3-2 +11 45 42 16/03/2013 Southampton v Liverpool W 2-3 L 3-1 +8 45 42 30/03/2013 Aston Villa v Liverpool W 0-2 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 06/04/2013 Liverpool v West Ham W 2-1 43 13/04/2013 Reading v Liverpool L 3-1 46 20/04/2013 Liverpool v Chelsea W 4-1 46 27/04/2013 Newcastle v Liverpool L 1-2 49 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 04/05/2013 Liverpool v Everton W 3-0 49 12/05/2013 Fulham v Liverpool L 1-0 52 19/05/2013 Liverpool v QPR W 1-0 52 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyh21 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Interested to know in the prem era if or when was the last time before 16th March (as was true last night) this was the case? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Rafas first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyh21 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Rafas first season. But yeah winning CL that season werent a bad consolation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim82 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 got to give enrique some credit. playing miles better than the rest of the back 4 in recent weeks. what was lucas doing for their 3rd though? half arsed tracking back and lazy, didnt even have the excuse he was tired. he's there to protect the back 4 and that 'attempt' was awful.or am i not allowed to say that? He has (re Enrique). Even when we've been winning our defence hasn't been on their game. Sounds like yesterday they had zero help from midfield too, and i'm guessing they tried to play Allen in the Lucas position again.Anyone see how well Sahin played yesterday? Baffles me that we couldn't do anything with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 playing him out of position more or less every game he played didn't really help things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 he couldnt get up to the speed of the prem, the few games i saw him the game just passed him by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Like I said earlier, Sahin could had the pace and physicality of the Premier league, from what I could tell anyway. With Spurs losing, that terrible defeat didn't cost us as much as it should of done. It's the old "we can get 4th" jinx though. Didn't Gerrard say something similar last season, followed by using going on a monumentally bad run in? Should stop tempting fate ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim82 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 With Spurs losing, that terrible defeat didn't cost us as much as it should of done.The idea is that we should capitalise when other teams get beat, and we rarely do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 We won't. Just lets focus on finishing above Everton . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajj 7 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 We anihilated you first half, should have been four up easily. You were ok for a spell second half but barely created much. So glad when I heard Lucas was on the bench, couldn't barely see Joe Allen, actually forgot he was playing and Gerrard, well he was awful. Barely moved, didn't track back and spent most of the game humping it to an offside Sturridge. My Liverpool supporting mate who was with me at the game (I was annoyingly surrounded by about 6 Liverpool fans in the home section) reckons Gerrard was coasting because he didn't want to get injured or knacker himself with England duty coming up. He reckons he cares more about England these days because Liverpool are unlikely to do much in the time he has left, whereas he could get to another World Cup with England and will be Captain. Countiho looked good again but was starved of supply and Clyne generally kept him quiet, he needs to get a bit stronger I reckon, he might also be better in the hole than out wide. Thought Sturridge was poor, fairly lazy, offside too much and his first touch let him down most times. Suarez barely got the ball (credit to our midfield) plus our players wound him up and got to him. Skrtel just wasn't up for the battle, Lambert just owned him and won pretty much every header and physical battle, if he;s not match fit then you should have played Carragher, I rekcon he would have competed better physically with Lambert and you have no pace worries against him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Gerrard has had his best season in years, the idea that he doesn't care as much is just nonsensical, he just doesn't always run the midfield like he used to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He was shocking on Saturday, but I agree with Rafa on all points he made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Countiho looked good again. Yes, Coutinho scored, but Nathaniel Clyne dealt with him very easily throughout the game. Coutinho simply didn't have the pace to threaten Clyne and it looks like England got their right back selection wrong and Clyne should be in the senior team not the under 21's. Nathaniel Clyne looked twice the player of Glen Johnson (who made mistakes throughout). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Yes, Coutinho scored, but Nathaniel Clyne dealt with him very easily throughout the game. Coutinho simply didn't have the pace to threaten Clyne and it looks like England and England under 21's got their right back selection wrong. Nathaniel Clyne looked twice the player of Glen Johnson (who made mistakes throughout). Unfortunately international squads are not picked on the one and only game before they're announced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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