VamPook Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 It'll be especially tasty when he ends up like another Bellion rather than Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 No doubt LVG will suck the life out of him even if he is a very talented player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Many are reporting £36m PLUS £20m add ons. Regardless if the fee means anything to us or not, The going to have to be exceptional or mentally untouchable to put up with the scrutiny he's going to be under for that fee. When a lot of the French football guys are saying technically he is great but it's the mental/consistency side of the game he struggles with it's a bit of a worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Edit - Just look at our first team squad and tell me we are not cutting fat. It ain't the fat being trimmed people are looking at, it's the fact there is not much meat left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Panic buy definition will have an image of him in a few years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Martial is another transfer that's come out of nowhere. British press have absolutely no idea who we're after, do they? Don't think it's set in stone that the club do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 De Gea will be staying. Real do not want to pay a fee for him so will wait to get him on a free especially know De gea is happy to do so. De Gea is happy to stay in order to pick up a huge signing on fee. The only loser in this deal is United. De Gea should have done the decent thing of handing in transfer request in may. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 It'll be especially tasty when he ends up like another Bellion rather than Henry No chance imo. I have watched him. Quality player. Dribbling, pace, strength and is only going to get better. Ripped Arsenal apart last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 When a lot of the French football guys are saying technically he is great but it's the mental/consistency side of the game he struggles with it's a bit of a worry. Do you really expect much else from a 19 year old? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Do you really expect much else from a 19 year old? No, Which is exactly my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 It ain't the fat being trimmed people are looking at, it's the fact there is not much meat left. Oh I agree, no one awash with cash as some think we are lets their squad get gnawed down so bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBC#1 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Podolski - under 2 million; Pedro - 21 million; Cech - 10 million; Deulofeu - 4 million; Adama Traore - 7 million; Anthony Martial - 36 million :O :O I think it is madness, he is undoubtedly a very bright player but he has 4 goals in 12 games for France U-21s, scored only 11 goals in a less competitive league last season. People are saying that he is worth this money because he got the better of Bellerin (who is also a 'rookie' in professional football terms and was even more inexperienced last year). Podolski is a world cup winner, Pedro is a CL, WC and Euro winner, Cech has been a fantastic goalkeeper since 2004. I would place him in the same bracket as Deulofeu and Traore in terms of experience and reputation (has shown quality but still plenty of room to develop) and look at the prices both have gone for... Maybe they should send James Wilson on loan to France for him to grab a few goals and then sell him for a similar price... What is the difference in quality between Martial, Hernandez, Wilson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The fact that we sold Champions League winning, Argentine international Angel Di Maria for £44m to a French team shows how ridiculous the fee for this guy is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Podolski - under 2 million;Pedro - 21 million; Cech - 10 million; Deulofeu - 4 million; Adama Traore - 7 million; Anthony Martial - 36 million :O :O I think it is madness, he is undoubtedly a very bright player but he has 4 goals in 12 games for France U-21s, scored only 11 goals in a less competitive league last season. People are saying that he is worth this money because he got the better of Bellerin (who is also a 'rookie' in professional football terms and was even more inexperienced last year). Podolski is a world cup winner, Pedro is a CL, WC and Euro winner, Cech has been a fantastic goalkeeper since 2004. I would place him in the same bracket as Deulofeu and Traore in terms of experience and reputation (has shown quality but still plenty of room to develop) and look at the prices both have gone for... Maybe they should send James Wilson on loan to France for him to grab a few goals and then sell him for a similar price... What is the difference in quality between Martial, Hernandez, Wilson? Only? He is just 19 and scored some of those goals when he was 18. Falcao struggled to get more than 4 goals altogether last season. Martial was not an automatic starter as well at first and sometimes he played out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdevil Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Isn't he a replacement for Mata on the right? I'd have thought that would be where LVG is looking. And for that price it appears to be rip-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Did they make that much of a big deal about it back then?I do remember players moving for the million but I don't think it was such a massive deal, when the deals hit the 10 million it was made out how crazy it was, they were right as well. Now it seems it is normal to be spending 20, 30 million on a player, it is only when it hits the 100m now a big fuss is made. Man City signed 2 players this summer for around the 50m mark each and hardly an eyebrow raised about it. Oh yes. The furore over signing Robson for 1.5m was huge. Complete waste of money etc etc. of course time told the story on that one. Keane was another the press went to town over - 3.75m! If only these days. Now we're spending 36m on a player I've never heard of. Only Mata and Di Maria have cost more and least said about Di Maria the better I think. Other big spend players, Berbs and veron weren't ultimately successful. Rio and Rooney have been the only successful ones we've paid big bucks for iirc. Football has become silly money, when the TV costs get too much, I worry the bubble will burst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 £36m you say? Is Mendes his agent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 £36m you say? Is Mendes his agent? Ding ding ding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Fee rumoured to be £21m for DDG. Should have just sold him sat the start of the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBC#1 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Only? He is just 19 and scored some of those goals when he was 18. Falcao struggled to get more than 4 goals altogether last season. Martial was not an automatic starter as well at first and sometimes he played out wide. That is why I brought in the comparison with Deulofeu and Traore... I am a neutral football fan and I have no doubt Martial is a good player and may well become a brilliant player, I hope he succeeds, I really do... You cannot just assume because a player is younger that he will follow the same career trajectory as another... My issue is not his age but simply the fact that he has not proven his quality in senior football over a sustained period.. When you buy a senior player the guarantee is that there will probably be another team willing to take a punt on him and recoup most of the fee - Di Maria - because he has shown that he can perform at the highest level and that his spell at Man Utd is a blip... With Martial costing at least £36 million - you would expect given that you are paying for potential - he will be worth £100 million or become a player that delivers performances worth £100 million in his peak... Adjusting for inflation over time it would place him in approx. the top 30 of world record transfers which is insanity for a 19 year old with 11 league goals... Are you telling me that he is worth what Wayne Rooney was at the same age? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Fee rumoured to be £21m for DDG. Should have just sold him sat the start of the window. £24m + Navas according to SSN. (reliable!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Navas? Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Navas? Really? Well 3 of your keepers could be off by the end of this window, Navas is a lot better than that clown that is in goal now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Despite all the posturing of telling everyone we're not going to sell him, we're selling him at the end of the window and getting Real's cast off? Excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Despite all the posturing of telling everyone we're not going to sell him, we're selling him at the end of the window and getting Real's cast off? Excellent. Exactly, it's like United are a shell of the Fergie era. It's a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 To top it off, Navas doesn't even want to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 That is why I brought in the comparison with Deulofeu and Traore...I am a neutral football fan and I have no doubt Martial is a good player and may well become a brilliant player, I hope he succeeds, I really do... You cannot just assume because a player is younger that he will follow the same career trajectory as another... My issue is not his age but simply the fact that he has not proven his quality in senior football over a sustained period.. When you buy a senior player the guarantee is that there will probably be another team willing to take a punt on him and recoup most of the fee - Di Maria - because he has shown that he can perform at the highest level and that his spell at Man Utd is a blip... With Martial costing at least £36 million - you would expect given that you are paying for potential - he will be worth £100 million or become a player that delivers performances worth £100 million in his peak... Adjusting for inflation over time it would place him in approx. the top 30 of world record transfers which is insanity for a 19 year old with 11 league goals... Are you telling me that he is worth what Wayne Rooney was at the same age? Fair enough but what I have seen from him, he reminds me very much of Henry. Monaco really don't play an attractive brand of football as well. Especially last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Well 3 of your keepers could be off by the end of this window, Navas is a lot better than that clown that is in goal now. Is he better than De Gea? No, obviously not but the ******* about has seen Romero in goal now for far too many games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Just got this exclusive footage from inside Van Gaal's office. [video=youtube_share;jgonBt1oa9Y] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm just happy we left all this until now. Nothing like 4 games into the season to sort things out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm just happy we left all this until now. Nothing like 4 games into the season to sort things out. We should have got things things done sooner. I still think the transfer window should close the Friday night before the Community Shield game. Everything done before the season starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 To top it off, Navas doesn't even want to come. To be accurate, he doesn't want to leave Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 To be accurate, he doesn't want to leave Madrid .. which means... he doesn't want to come? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 De Gea will be staying. Real do not want to pay a fee for him so will wait to get him on a free especially know De gea is happy to do so. De Gea is happy to stay in order to pick up a huge signing on fee. The only loser in this deal is United. De Gea should have done the decent thing of handing in transfer request in may. Quality post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bournemouth are increasingly confident of winning the race to sign QPR hot-shot Charlie Austin. We waited too long and Bournemouth have snuck in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 £24m plus Navas would be a cracking deal considering the circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham_aka_stam Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please stop quoting Sid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Fee for Martial is less than £25million including the add-ons. Can't believe some people believed the £36million + up to £20million add-ons stories. Clearly just Monaco trying to lessen the blow to their supporters. Also seen the fee for De Gea is €35million, which is £25.5million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bah, why can we never have a categorically good transfer window? Always something to ruin it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Fee for Martial is less than £25million including the add-ons. Can't believe some people believed the £36million + up to £20million add-ons stories. Clearly just Monaco trying to lessen the blow to their supporters. Where did you see that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bah, why can we never have a categorically good transfer window? Always something to ruin it. We're terrible at these now. We have signed good players over the last three summers, but it always looks a bit messy and unprofessional. Teams like Chelsea and City streets ahead of us in this respect. (Aswell as most others, to be honest). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 £24m plus Navas would be a cracking deal considering the circumstances. probably. people forget navas is the best keeper in spain, which he also proved at the world cup. i'd be happy with him + romero as backup if that ends up happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Where did you see that? Tom's shagging Woodward, classic case of pillow talk here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Tom's shagging Woodward, classic case of pillow talk here That's just adorable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Tom's shagging Woodward, classic case of pillow talk here Thought it was Bill the pest control man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Lindegaard has gone, De Gea seems to be going, and Valdes is still not on a talking basis with Van Gaal. What are the chances of signing a new keeper (hopefully ahead of Romero)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Thought it was Bill the pest control man? You sure as hell do get around, Tom! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Lindegaard has gone, De Gea seems to be going, and Valdes is still not on a talking basis with Van Gaal. What are the chances of signing a new keeper (hopefully ahead of Romero)? Where have you been the last hour? Navas... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 You sure as hell do get around, Tom! Technically a single man...kind of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Januzaj loan confimed. The fact the squad is paper thin and that he's started the majority of matches so far this season makes this another odd decision. Our squad is smaller than last year where we struggled with injuries and had less matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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