bell Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Using Ngog as a counter argument is just as bad. Did he ever look like being anything other than a flop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Using Ngog as a counter argument is just as bad. Did he ever look like being anything other than a flop? My point exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Bit harsh calling Ngog a flop considering he cost 1.5mill and we sold him for 3.5mill. He was a gamble and improved whilst he was here, but did people expect him to turn out to be a world superstar? If he cost 15mill then yes he would be considered a flop, but he cost very little and did an admirable job covering for Torres at a time when we had nobody else. He played 94 games (many as a sub) and scored 19 goals - hardly a flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Heh, just looking at Ngog at Liverpool and compared with Torres at Chelsea: Ngog - 94 games 19 goals - cost 1.5mill Torres - 100 games 26 goals - cost 50mill Dare say Torres started more games than Ngog too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Should use Neil Mellor for your argument instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Neil Mellor is 30 now (and retired). That's crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Does he do anything for the club now? He is always tweeting about the youths etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Always on LFCTV as well, but otherwise I'm not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 on henderson, you could see when he came in that his youth training purely consisted of the same training routine for years, which he clearly became very good at because he made it as a pro. when he came to us that was all he had, one touch lay offs for 90 minutes. i think credit has to go to rodgers for identifying he wasnt good enough, took all the pressure off him and started to train him to actually play football before he started getting a chance to play. i think the lad has the capacity to learn whatever he's taught so given the right training theres no reason he cant get better and better over time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Results for the 5 teams around us have all went in our favor bar Arsenal who play tomorrow. Not the worst weekend to play Utd it would seem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Howard Webb is officiating mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Howard Webb is officiating mate indeed, suarez will get sent off for walking down the tunnel and they will get a penalty in the 15th minute of added on time if they aren't winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We were never going to get a result, it is just going to be worse than we expected. Our only hope is that RvP gets injured prior to kick-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 They really should completely destroy us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 wouldnt say completely destroy but i have been saying 0-3 all week. if they counter attack us they have a good chance of destroying us as this is whats made us look totally inept in defence in our recent defeats. some of our defending was outstandingly bad when our defence had no help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Well we are lining up 3-5-2 apparently ala Stamford Bridge. Trying to counter the counter. Reina, Skrtel, Carra, Agger, Henderson, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Sterling, Suarez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I will honestly be suprised if we don't concede less than four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I just hope Rodgers picks a side to get at them rather than sit back because their defence is awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I will honestly be suprised if we don't concede less than four. Prepare to be amazed, have some faith man. EDIT: Anyone still hoping for villa can forget about it http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8393554/ Was never a likely target anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Well we are lining up 3-5-2 apparently ala Stamford Bridge. Trying to counter the counter. Reina, Skrtel, Carra, Agger, Henderson, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Sterling, Suarez. weird line up that, if i were rvp i'd isolate myself with carra all day, he'll have him for breakfast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 That line up just reads rape me down the wings to me, particularly as I assume Johnson is left wing back there, and Henderson right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Howard Webb is officiating mate I didn't mean that we would get a result. I was implying that since everyone around us didn't win then it should soften the blow of playing Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Although it's pretty irrelevant, if the season started on the 28th September, Norwich at home, ie not inc the fixtures West Brom (A), Man City (A), Arsenal (H), Sunderland (A), Man United(H), then we would be sitting 4th in the table right now. We aren't as bad as you think. It's our start to the season that killed us off, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Prepare to be amazed, have some faith man. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to be amazed, I just think RvP will have a field day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 will be so difficult to get anything from today, would be over the moon with a point. we've given all the top sides a good game so i don't expect a complete mauling for us like some are tbh. good results for us yesterday so even if we do lose it'll take abit of the sting off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Dropped 10 points out of 42 so far from teams below the top 6 which isn't bad. I dont think our first 11 is bad but its the replacements should we get injuries that are bad although downing has started to play well as has Henderson though Shelvey has gone off the boil lately. I can't see us getting anything today but results went our way so its not too much of a loss we just have to keep picking points from the games we expect to win and build on in the summer. Only got Man City and Arsenal to play away from home out of all the top 10 teams after today. I think we should aim for 6th anything else is a bonus, said that since start of the season. Key players signing contract extensions, youngsters getting first team experience, consistency against bottom half sides in the league and improvement in the league positioning means seasons hasn't been that bad. Only games we played awful and deserved to lose are West Brom, West Ham (lucky win) Stoke, Arsenal, Chelsea (lucky draw). I think we should have been 3 or 4 up against Villa before going on to lose the game. Spurs we were sloppy first half better second half while we were unlucky against United at Anfield. 5 points taken out of a possible 30 from sides in the top 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 5 points from 30 in the top 10 is awful. Imagine if we won today? Amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Imagine if we won today? Amazing. I would probably make love to my girlfriend and make her wear a Luis Suarez mask while we do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I think she'd want you to be the one doing the diving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 eyyyyyyyyy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Read in a few places that we are going to hijack Galatasaray's move for Sneijder. Would be insane if we got him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 As in insanely stupid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 As in insanely stupid? No denying that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonus1010 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Read in a few places that we are going to hijack Galatasaray's move for Sneijder. Would be insane if we got him. Wont get £200k a week in Turkey, we wouldn't pay him £200k either. Would probably be closer to £150k a week, which is still a huge salary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I wouldn't pay anything like that for him. Don't think he's the kind of player we need, and he's not the great player he once was, or once could have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Reina, Wisdom, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Downing, Sterling, Suarez. No 5 at the back shenanigans. Jones, Carragher, Henderson, Sturridge, Borini, Shelvey, Robinson. 2 strikers on the bench what trickery is this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Sturridge to come off the bench and net the winner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 i expect sturridge to come on for our worst performing winger at some point. i wouldnt mind seeing both him and suarez on the same pitch tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Happy with that side, just hope we get in amongst them and play at a high tempo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Would rather Henderson in for Allen, but it's an otherwise good side. Least Shelvey isn't starting to get sent off early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Wisdom looks like a bit of a risk today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm very optimistic, 3-3. Suarez, Sterling and Skrtel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Have to revise instead of watching the game Their midfield looks quite poor and could be got at today. Let's hope I miss a stormer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Gerrard will most likely get sent off. Best we can do is a draw in my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Borini back on the bench too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Silly attempt at a nutmeg from Suarez then. Really really stupid and now they have a corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Nice work there glen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Way too easy, maybe we will come out and play a bit now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Wasn't great defending from Agger. It was all too easy wasn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hmmmmmmmmmmmpf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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