Rafalution Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well yeah there was about 2 pages of discussion recently about moving him wide and getting a striker in. nobody in that discussion was saying he wasn't chipping in with goals though? confused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 A lot of dutch say Eriksen hasn't progressed in two years. And with Suso getting game time, I'd rather go with him than spend 15-20 mil on a similar player we dont really need if Suso carries on his good progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 A lot of dutch say Eriksen hasn't progressed in two years. And with Suso getting game time, I'd rather go with him than spend 15-20 mil on a similar player we dont really need if Suso carries on his good progress. To progress, sometimes you need the competition around you to be higher then before for you to progress beyond. I think he goes to a tougher league he will take those next steps because he will have no choice but to otherwise fade away into mediocrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'd genuinely would take Charlie Austin and/or Tom Ince over most of the people we've been linked with so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 You only say Austin so he stands a better chance of getting called up for England so you can win your amazingly long odds b....oh wait, you FILTHY LIAR! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I was actually surprised he didn't get called up this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 So... someone argue with me... We should just give Raheem £40-50k a week because he's value for that. Anything else is age discrimination. EDIT: But we pay for his loyalty ofc. 6 year contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I hate the principle of rewarding someone so heavily when they are so young, done so little and could quite easily go off the boil/off the rails. And going by what Rodgers has said, he hates it too. I really wish overpaying to keep talent wasn't a necessary evil, but I do think if we want to compete again we have to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I don't think it's overpaying. He's playing at least at a £40k a week level now. It's his level of importance to the team. We need him, he's our best winger by quite a bit. Also, any player can go off the boil, no? Regardless of age. Torres isn't exactly earning his £200k pw at Chelsea for example. It's a risk you take with all players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Giving a 17 year old kid who's played 3 months of regular football £40k a week is ridiculously overpaying. And yes, age does matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Why? What's the odds that he would regress dramatically? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Not about odds, but about providing incentive for further improvement. History isn't exactly short of 17yo examples who thought they were all that to wind up playing well further down the pyramid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 That's the reality of things though, if he wasn't quite good enough to get into the first team you'd no doubt be able to give him less money and in a year or twos time he'd be wanting that additional money if he broke through. It's like he's getting punished for developing too quickly. If you won't give young players x money then you may as well give up on bringing young players through because at 17, 18, 19, whenever they will want that money and they'll get it. Hardly any of these players are 'worth' 40K a week or 50K a week anyway so I wouldn't use the fact that senior players are getting x means that younger players can't get y and it's up to the manager to handle the attitude, etc aspect of things. Could also build certain incentives into the contract to get up to 40-50K Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 That's what you do then. At that age they've got zero clue on how to spend that amount anyway. Incentive is to continue to develop, work harder, get better, get rewarded. Not 'break into team, get made for life'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Giving a 17 year old kid who's played 3 months of regular football £40k a week is ridiculously overpaying. And yes, age does matter. It's ridiculous but it's the market you're dealing with. You'll have to offer him that to keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It just shows how big his ego is in my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 whose? Sterlings? what has he said/rejected? I'd probably want to give him a lower amount but with either a high percentage yearly increase or some sort of lump sum deal when he turns a certain age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 All Stirling has said is that its ******** hes asked for that amount. He should be given 20k with 35% pay rise a year plus other incentives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 why 35%? why not 30%? or 40%? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 last season there were rumours he was gonna leave if he didnt get first team games and now theres rumours he wants a massive pay rise. either him or his agent are massive ***** tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Or maybe the rumours are just rubbish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 there can be some truth in most rumours though, not all of them are plucked out of thin air and if they keep coming out about the same player then theres usually no smoke without fire imo. theyre probably half truths tbh and its more than likely coming from his agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 last season there were rumours he was gonna leave if he didnt get first team games and now theres rumours he wants a massive pay rise. either him or his agent are massive ***** tbh. I very much doubt it's him that wants a massive pay rise. He probably doesn't even ask for his wages, I expect it's his agent that does, and he has a massive agenda. I think a lot of these kids are very poorly advised. If he is a massive **** though, I wouldn't want him around. It could all just be nonsense though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 You go back to that Being Liverpool bit when Rodgers cuts him down to size. Unfortunately he has "made it" now, there's no going back, he's now pretty guaranteed to always be in demand by someone and have a good wage. He can't be threatened with falling in to obscurity with the other academy lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I very much doubt it's him that wants a massive pay rise. He probably doesn't even ask for his wages, I expect it's his agent that does, and he has a massive agenda. I think a lot of these kids are very poorly advised.If he is a massive **** though, I wouldn't want him around. It could all just be nonsense though. couldnt disagree with that. sure he does deserve a payrise, he's an international now at 17 too which isnt bad but it should be regulated by his age to some degree. theres a pretty good argument that it ruins good players as once theyve 'made it' the desire and hunger for the game is lost at an early age. look at balotelli, absolutely outstanding in the euros and showed he actually can be pretty damn good but 99/100 he just couldnt give a ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 [video=youtube;Pd99wPNk14I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Pd99wPNk14I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopra_hill Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 was out last night and joe allen was out (hammered). talking to him and i said why didnt you all celebrate with suarez. he looked at me as if to say why do you think then started laughing and said we were all tired. i laughed and said does anyone like him, he rolled his eyes and said what do you think. then asked him if liverpool were gunna beat wigan on the weekend and he said probably not he was ****ed haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Have not seen much of Liverpool this year, how is Sahin doing at the mo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 was out last night and joe allen was out (hammered). talking to him and i said why didnt you all celebrate with suarez. he looked at me as if to say why do you think then started laughing and said we were all tired. i laughed and said does anyone like him, he rolled his eyes and said what do you think. then asked him if liverpool were gunna beat wigan on the weekend and he said probably not he was ****ed haha. love it. do wales not have an international today then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 was out last night and joe allen was out (hammered). talking to him and i said why didnt you all celebrate with suarez. he looked at me as if to say why do you think then started laughing and said we were all tired. i laughed and said does anyone like him, he rolled his eyes and said what do you think. then asked him if liverpool were gunna beat wigan on the weekend and he said probably not he was ****ed haha. Does that mean he's saying that nobody likes Suarez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopra_hill Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 love it. do wales not have an international today then? nah. they were in wales for a team meeting in the morning then played golf and went out. joe allen, ashley williams, james collins, david vaughan, chris gunter and david edwards were the ones i seen. Just surprised coleman wasn't out ... and we wonder why we never qualify Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 At that age they've got zero clue on how to spend that amount anyway. Child support? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morology Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Have not seen much of Liverpool this year, how is Sahin doing at the mo? He looks like a classy player, and gets into the box fairly often which is great because we don't have many midfielders who make those runs. On the other hand, he seems to go missing for long periods and doesn't impose himself on games the way a player of his ability really should. Probably what Mourinho meant when he said Sahin was missing something that he would hopefully learn by playing in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 He looks like a classy player, and gets into the box fairly often which is great because we don't have many midfielders who make those runs. On the other hand, he seems to go missing for long periods and doesn't impose himself on games the way a player of his ability really should. Probably what Mourinho meant when he said Sahin was missing something that he would hopefully learn by playing in the PL. Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Does that mean he's saying that nobody likes Suarez? Pretty sure that it means they do like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Hes probably bored with mentally handicapped people coming up to him, chatting about inane stuff about Suarez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Suarez with a superb goal tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Better than Ibra's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/3-1-uruguay-quality-finish-luis-suarez-v-poland/ Not the best quality. Alright on the close up replays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Better than Ibra's? Much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The assist for Cavani is loads better. [video=youtube;5nHi3NhBjnU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5nHi3NhBjnU#! EDIT: Than his goal, not Zlatan's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Cavani in January? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted November 14, 2012 Author Share Posted November 14, 2012 Must have £40m down the back of the sofa... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Man City linked with a £40 million bid for Suarez, Tony Barret is the person who originally reported the story which will be in tomorrows paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 There we go then, £40m to buy Cavani. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Why do they need him? **** off City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 https://twitter.com/joehart84/status/268836590036611073/photo/1 Link but as I say it was the times that originally broke the news via Tony Barret. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'd laugh. I'd want 60. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Just signed a new contract and seems to love the club. If we were to let him go I'd literally give up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Don't even start with these sort of rumors please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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