Replicating Bayern on FM21

[Rashidi]

This is perhaps one of the more interesting challenges on Football Manager, and it is a good exercise in using FM21’s overpowered Focus play instructions to create overloads. Hansi Flick’s Bayern side have great attacking output, averaging around 2.6xG per game, scoring on average 3.19 goals per game with an xGA of around 0.93.

Under Flick Bayern lineup mostly as a 4231, it’s their most frequently used formation. This replication is based on their 20/21 side when they had Tiago Alacantara. This was a side that had Pavard, Alaba, Boateng and Alphonso Davies in defence.

Bayern employ a double pivot with Tiago and Kimmich in midfield. Leon Goertzka is their other option in central midfield, while in attack Sergi Gnabry is the one who takes the left flank with Ivan Perisic as the other option.

In possession Bayern’s fullbacks will push higher up the pitch and provide the width. The wingers tuck inside and occupy the half spaces. Between the two fullbacks the more adventurous one is usually Davies. The side frequently looks like a 2-3-5 in possession.

In attack there is plenty of fluidity. Serge Gnabry and Kingsley Coman sometimes swap positions. Lewandowski will also deep allowing both wide players to attack the box. And with Thomas Mueller given free reign to roam, Bayern’s attack can devastatingly unpredictable. Typical in their movement patterns is the sight of their centre forward dropping deep during their attack phase.

Bayern are narrow in possession allowing them to keep short pass lanes. As a result of this whenever they lose the ball, they are not too far away from the ball when they want to execute their press. Their overloads allow them to win the ball back quickly when they lose it.

When they build their play up they use overloads along the flanks. They shift towards the ball with several players and occupy the  ball near flank and half spaces with six to seven players. This allows them to create a numerical superiority and forces the opposition to commit more players there

Of particular importance is the role of Thomas Muller who operates in a free role allowing him to take part in the overloads and this frees up space for Lewandowski and the two wide players to attack.

Their marking style is fairly aggressive, they defend man against man within the backline.  Lewandowski and Muller can be seen pressing opposition central defenders. While their double pivot does press opposition players, usually one is free to pick up the second ball.

FM21 Replication

The Bayern replication for FM21 becomes an exercise in balancing mentality and using the focus instructions to generate the kind of football I want.

We can use focus play down the flanks to generate the overloads, and since we are using a 4231 I am a bit hesitant about using overlaps. This is one replication which will also study individual mentalities within the tactic.

If I keep the team mentality to Balanced, several roles will still be operating on different mentalities these include:

• Inside Forward: Attacking
• Wingback (A): Positive
• Fullback (A): Positive
• Trequartista (A): Attacking
• Complete Forward (S) : Cautious

My attention is focused on our build-up play. I am keenly paying attention to how we transition the ball from defence to attack paying attention to our overloads, which are expected to happen on either flank when we have the ball, like in the next image.

I have decided to let the assistant manager choose the starting 11 and he has gone with this lineup

As we build up play down the right, note where Muller has ended up, his role is that of a TQ allowing him the freedom to move about in the final third. One of my conditions for this replication is to see Muller drifting around supporting the overloads as this is a core function of his in real life.

Here you can see Muller helping Kimmich who is bombing down the flanks as a fullback. Muller is free to receive the pass and drop a cross into the box for Lewandowski.

These are small attacking patterns that I am paying attention to.

Here Bayern are working the ball down the right flank again, and have an overload down that flank, if we lose the ball in possession it will also allow us to win it back effectively with the counter press!

 

While I can get the movement and all the patterns to work in the game, the one real issue is going to be getting the goal scoring numbers of Lewandowski to match real life. In my games Muller ended up topping the numbers at the club. So while its possible to get the movement, getting the real numbers is a slightly different matter

 

GENERATING OVERLOADS AND FINAL THIRD MOVEMENT

 

In order to generate the overloads I used focus play on both flanks. I avoided the use of overlaps so that I could use the wingback role on attack duty while maintaining the mentality of the IF and the IW. If I had used the overlap/underlap I would have to turn those on attack duty affecting the movement I wanted.

To generate more movement I either went for roaming roles for the front 3 or added the roaming instruction. I also added tight marking for the team in general as a PI and left it on the front 4 players. The CM(D) is given direct passing.

No other player instructions were used in the system.

Why balanced mentality? I start on Balance and keep it for most matches, unless I need to push for a result. I also add Defensive Narrow width or as its known in FM21 force opposition outside for away matches against difficult competition.

If you want to get Lewandowski banging in the goals then just change his duty to attack, you might lose some of the movement from him, but he will occasionally drop and swap positions with Muller

***This may not be a perfect replication for Bayern but I wanted to achieve several facets of their play which I am confident I did***

- Fluid attacking movement
- Counterpressing successfully through overloads

Naturally there is an inclination to copy these onto other teams and hope that this can be achieved, that is always going to be a challenge. This is a team with very good players, so its relatively easy to get this done with them. However the challenge goes up a lot if i wanted to do this with Arsenal for example. There I may need to consider changing the roles in midfield. I would still maintain the roles in the final third to get the movement I want and to use the roam player instruction as well. Of particular importance is the Trequartista. While the game says it won't tackle, surprisingly I get good defensive numbers out of him in my matches. I was really after the movement we get with the role to support players and also to achieve his late runs into the box. 

I thought of using the shadow striker as an alternative, but then he may not end up supporting play as wide as the corner flag.

Attributes needed for the system:

Generally a system like this depends on a host of mental attributes:Decisions, off the ball, anticipation, teamwork, work rate. These are all going to be important. One feature that they have is acceleration and to get the right kind of attacking patterns out of the wingback we will need pace and acceleration in quite a few roles: Wingback, IF and IW. 

There are going to be times when the centre is vulnerable and if i meet sides that play with aggressive AMCs or central attacking overloads I may consider dropping my defensive width to force the opposition wide as I have done in the tactic above.

I will be updating this thread over time as I continue this replication and I will also take it to other teams to see how they do and whether I need to make slight modifications. I am pretty sure I will need to. There is a livestream on my youtube channel where i will be doing creating this and showing how I adapt if I need to later on my youtube channel. You can find links to that in the community links channel.

This is just one of the attacking movements I was after.

 

[Aquaplex]

Fantastic work Rashidi.

[yonko]

Great work. 

For me the most devastating thing Bayern do is the way they attack the penalty box and how they play the ball there. Liverpool do pretty much the same thing as well from a slightly different framework. 

[Gegenklaus]

What does the instructions "Focus play down ..." actually do and why are these overpowered? 

[Rashidi]

Focus play focuses passing down a specific area, players will also move towards these areas to support the passing focus. You can see from the images I linked above, when i build my play down the right flank, i create overloads down that flank. And as I explained the overloads allow me to counterpress very effectively when i have the ball. Naturally the quality of my counterpress will depend on the kind of players that i have. 

[ashlfcowen]

I have applied some of this theory into my current save and it has turned my CM(A) into an absolute machine. 

[Egecann]

There isn't any PI's right ?

 

Now i see it can't delete sorry

Edited November 24, 2020 by Egecann

[SixPointer]

Having explored overloads in my first save game of fm20. Am also delighted to see the improved focus play! Great work as always Rashidi. 👏🏻

[LucasBR]

Great, unfortunately I couldn't watch your live yesterday. I'll try to replicate this on my save in Brazil.

One thing that I didn't understand, you give the instruction roam from position to the striker and wingers?

 

Thanks!

[w_x]

37 minutes ago, LucasBR said:

Great, unfortunately I couldn't watch your live yesterday. I'll try to replicate this on my save in Brazil.

One thing that I didn't understand, you give the instruction roam from position to the striker and wingers?

 

Thanks!

I think that the front 4 either have roaming as part of the role (trequartista, complete forward) or have it added as a PI

[blj-fabolous]

Have you asked yourself the question: what is the objective of Bayern's offensive movements?

Because what makes the difference between the offensive animation of Bayern and others teams is their ability to find players in a position to center.

Bayern's goal is to find the free player with a dangerous center angle, usually looking for the far post.

And you never allude to that.

Sorry for the english, it's google translation.

 

[Gegenklaus]

5 hours ago, Rashidi said:

Focus play focuses passing down a specific area, players will also move towards these areas to support the passing focus. You can see from the images I linked above, when i build my play down the right flank, i create overloads down that flank. And as I explained the overloads allow me to counterpress very effectively when i have the ball. Naturally the quality of my counterpress will depend on the kind of players that i have. 

Okay, thanks. But why are these instructions overpowered? 

[Gee_Simpson]

On 24/11/2020 at 17:39, Gegenklaus said:

Okay, thanks. But why are these instructions overpowered? 

Yeah I'd like to know the answer to this too? Is it an exploit or is it okay to use? @Rashidi

[keysea]

55 minutes ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Yeah I'd like to know the answer to this too? Is it an exploit or is it okay to use? @Rashidi

Hi,

Think you all misunderstood what RASHIDI meant talking about "overpowered" focus play ... IMO he just meant that once you have a clear vision of what you wanna achieve, roles and duties needed to do so, you can make the most of it using the right focus... We have now more control on what we wanna achieve ... Hope RASHIDI will confirm i'm right ... 

[Gegenklaus]

On 23/11/2020 at 22:16, Rashidi said:

This is perhaps one of the more interesting challenges on Football Manager, and it is a good exercise in using FM21’s overpowered Focus play instructions to create overloads.

This is what he wrote @keysea. And I just wanted to know why he states that the Focus Play instructions are overpowered. 

[Rashidi]

I don't mean it as an exploit, it just feels overpowered because I now feel like I have more control of how the overloads are meant to happen. On hindsight I should have rephrased that.

[Rashidi]

On 25/11/2020 at 00:39, blj-fabolous said:

Have you asked yourself the question: what is the objective of Bayern's offensive movements?

Because what makes the difference between the offensive animation of Bayern and others teams is their ability to find players in a position to center.

Bayern's goal is to find the free player with a dangerous center angle, usually looking for the far post.

And you never allude to that.

Sorry for the english, it's google translation.

 

Yup exactly, the fluidity of the movement and the way Muller drops to support the overloads allows them to find open players on the opposite flank.

[Gegenklaus]

Just now, Rashidi said:

I don't mean it as an exploit, it just feels overpowered because I now feel like I have more control of how the overloads are meant to happen. On hindsight I should have rephrased that.

Okay, thanks for your answer. :-)

[Gee_Simpson]

11 hours ago, Rashidi said:

I don't mean it as an exploit, it just feels overpowered because I now feel like I have more control of how the overloads are meant to happen. On hindsight I should have rephrased that.

Phew 

As you know I was planning to use this, so I'm glad you have cleared this up 👍🏻

[jdubsnz]

@Rashidi this looks really interesting. I'm in pre-season on season 2 of an Arsenal save.  Had a decent season with my own 4-2-3-1 (2nd in the league, FA Cup final, Europa League final) but looking for something a bit different this season.  I'm not sure who could play Trequartista though - I did buy Depay who could potentially work there? do you feel this formation would only work with Bayern? thanks!

[Gee_Simpson]

21 hours ago, jdubsnz said:

@Rashidi this looks really interesting. I'm in pre-season on season 2 of an Arsenal save.  Had a decent season with my own 4-2-3-1 (2nd in the league, FA Cup final, Europa League final) but looking for something a bit different this season.  I'm not sure who could play Trequartista though - I did buy Depay who could potentially work there? do you feel this formation would only work with Bayern? thanks!

It was created for Bayern obviously, but I see no harm in trying it with other teams. I'm going to use it for my main save as Man Utd, and Utd need way more surgery on the squad for it to work well imo, but I'm still going to disable the first window anyway!

It's the CM (D) and CM (S) roles especially that you need to find the right players for, and Arsenal have good all-rounders that can play there already, whereas Utd don't. Man Utd do have better Treq options though. Depay could certainly play there imo as long as you don't expect much from him when it comes to pressing due to his low(ish) teamwork and work rate. It's not absolutely awful but at 12/11, not great.

It would be really interesting to see someone else use this especially with a different team from me 

Edited November 29, 2020 by Gee_Simpson

[beverage1982]

@Rashidirrallu interesting tactic and enjoyed the stream too. I know you mentioned Bayern play narrow which is why you went narrow. But what would the impact of playing wider be? Would you lose some of the overlaps as players aren't as close together. Or gain something as there is more space

[Rashidi]

I think if I had gone wider, the first pass in most cases would be out to the flanks and I would see a more concerted attempt to use the wider players. The players would be further away in turning making the counterpress slightly harder to pull off. Counter pressing is easier on narrow formations

[Bot Makel]

@Rashidi I have a doubt about Muller as a Trequartista. The role set "dribble more" but Muller does not have a good value in dribbling and also in reality very hardly dribbles the man. Wouldn't it be appropriate, also given its exceptional mental attributes, to set it as AMsu with roam from position?

[Johnny Ace]

1 hour ago, Bot Makel said:

@Rashidi I have a doubt about Muller as a Trequartista. The role set "dribble more" but Muller does not have a good value in dribbling and also in reality very hardly dribbles the man. Wouldn't it be appropriate, also given its exceptional mental attributes, to set it as AMsu with roam from position?

I wouldn't worry too much about that to be honest. Dribble More doesn't mean every time he has the ball he'll make a run, it just gives him the instruction to look to run on the ball more & he's certainly intelligence enough to know when to run or not. Taking the Trequartisa  off of him will mean he'd lose the "ball magnet" effect & see less of the play which could have a huge effect as a whole 

[Bot Makel]

10 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said:

I wouldn't worry too much about that to be honest. Dribble More doesn't mean every time he has the ball he'll make a run, it just gives him the instruction to look to run on the ball more & he's certainly intelligence enough to know when to run or not. Taking the Trequartisa  off of him will mean he'd lose the "ball magnet" effect & see less of the play which could have a huge effect as a whole 

Dribble more ok doesn't have much influence even though Muller carries very little of the ball and plays more within a few touches. I don't think muller actually attracts the ball to himself, quite the contrary. His role is to find the right space and in that moment receive the ball and make the play. He will not always be given the ball, even in difficulty.

[Johnny Ace]

15 minutes ago, Bot Makel said:

Dribble more ok doesn't have much influence even though Muller carries very little of the ball and plays more within a few touches. I don't think muller actually attracts the ball to himself, quite the contrary. His role is to find the right space and in that moment receive the ball and make the play. He will not always be given the ball, even in difficulty.

Very interesting point, maybe one for Rashidi to consider 

[Gee_Simpson]

I think Rashidi goes for the Treq role because of the unique movement it offers, which is similar to how Muller moves irl going from his posts.

[lanewalk]

On 23/11/2020 at 21:16, Rashidi said:

I also added tight marking for the team in general as a PI and left it on the front 4 players

Can you please clarify what this means? I see that the Use Tighter Marking is used as a TI, does this just mean same applies to the front 4 without any PI adjustment?

[Rashidi]

11 hours ago, lanewalk said:

Can you please clarify what this means? I see that the Use Tighter Marking is used as a TI, does this just mean same applies to the front 4 without any PI adjustment?

Yes

[jdubsnz]

On 29/11/2020 at 03:02, Gee_Simpson said:

It was created for Bayern obviously, but I see no harm in trying it with other teams. I'm going to use it for my main save as Man Utd, and Utd need way more surgery on the squad for it to work well imo, but I'm still going to disable the first window anyway!

It's the CM (D) and CM (S) roles especially that you need to find the right players for, and Arsenal have good all-rounders that can play there already, whereas Utd don't. Man Utd do have better Treq options though. Depay could certainly play there imo as long as you don't expect much from him when it comes to pressing due to his low(ish) teamwork and work rate. It's not absolutely awful but at 12/11, not great.

It would be really interesting to see someone else use this especially with a different team from me 

@Gee_Simpsoncheers. Bought Aouar and played him as Treq in second game of the season. Was man of the match! Depay also played really well in the first. @Rashidireally interesting approach, will let you know how the Arsenal save goes

[Delial]

Hi everyone,

I found this map of the average position during the buildup for last year Bayern's team.

How do you think you can translate this into FM?

IMHO, the hardest parts would be the DM pairing (Kimmich and Thiago were definitively DMs as they were building from really deep) and the upfront pairing Lewangoalski - Muller.

To be honest, I'm struggling on which mentality use to replicate their buildup. It is pretty slow from deep, Thiago broke lines with long passes and things were getting hectic in the last third.

[StewG]

Thanks for the ideas in this thread, has really helped me to accomplish the style I wanted for my Rangers save.

[kandersson]

6 hours ago, Delial said:

Hi everyone,

I found this map of the average position during the buildup for last year Bayern's team.

How do you think you can translate this into FM?

IMHO, the hardest parts would be the DM pairing (Kimmich and Thiago were definitively DMs as they were building from really deep) and the upfront pairing Lewangoalski - Muller.

To be honest, I'm struggling on which mentality use to replicate their buildup. It is pretty slow from deep, Thiago broke lines with long passes and things were getting hectic in the last third.

I think DM pair should be HB (Kimmich on DMCL) and RPM (Thiago/Goretzka on DMCR). Even if it's not a Bayern replication, I think @Ö-zil to the Arsenal!nails some key aspects of Bayern tactics with an asymmetric 424 (actually inspired by Pelé and 1970) in his Caixa/Benfica thread, including DM pair and AMC/ST partnership. Long thread, but worth reading 

Edited December 3, 2020 by kandersson

[CM]

Perfect tactic this. Switched to this with Brentford and haven't lost a game since then. Having above average players also helps I guess but players (particularly wide ones) really tire out towards the end of games 

[robterrace]

Been doing a little bit of work, trying to mix this with some total football stuff with my Chesterfield team in League One.

Theres some really fantastic passing football getting played at times, and I can see a lot of what Rashidi is aiming to do in the way my side set up, even if I'm doing it with some slightly different roles in the AM/ST areas (mainly because my players aren't as skilled as Munichs )

 

 

[robterrace]

Made reference to it.. I love the recycle here.

Broken into bits below.

Ball gets cleared out by their CM.

Intercepted by RCM, who then squares to LCM.

Ball passed back to RCM, who rolls pass back to LDC who moves into space to collect ball.

LDC gets closed down by 18, which leaves ball to LB (45) or risky pass into channel for AMC(7) or LW(39).

LB collects pass, and moves back before turning and going outside opposition RW(34). In the centre, players start moving into space again.

LB checks his run, AMC(7) and LCM(4) have dropped into space for the pass inside.

Ball is passed to AMC, LB continues his run, leaving 34 with a choice of closing AMC down, or following LB.

He chooses the former, which allows the pass to spring LB into space.

 

Continuing his run, LB has large space to move into, heads for the byline and hits a cross.

In the box, LW, ST and RW are engaging 3 defenders, with the 2 wingers having a small amount of space.

RW finds a bit of space, having dropped behind the LB(15), and hits a header back across goal into the far corner.

 

 

 

[Rashidi]

9 hours ago, robterrace said:

Been doing a little bit of work, trying to mix this with some total football stuff with my Chesterfield team in League One.

Theres some really fantastic passing football getting played at times, and I can see a lot of what Rashidi is aiming to do in the way my side set up, even if I'm doing it with some slightly different roles in the AM/ST areas (mainly because my players aren't as skilled as Munichs )

 

 

I love this, the game offers so much, when people evaluate what they want from their players then look for the roles that come closest to getting it done. Understanding what your players are capable off in relation to the rest of the league often makes things a lot easier.

[robterrace]

27 minutes ago, Rashidi said:

I love this, the game offers so much, when people evaluate what they want from their players then look for the roles that come closest to getting it done. Understanding what your players are capable off in relation to the rest of the league often makes things a lot easier.

Thanks.

Its something that I love doing, and, I think FM21 has it better than previous years. The interplay I've seen in the build up to changes is excellent, and, for once, it seems that players actually use a little bit of intelligence in their passing options when given the chance.

I have got a player coming through at AMC who prefers to play as an enganche, so I may give that a go in the next few games and see what happens.

[BrickCommo23]

Really interesting thread - something I am also trying to replicate with Arsenal in season one. Will keep an eye out.

Of course if @Rashidi was to do Arsenal on here then....swwwooooooooonnnn 

[BrickCommo23]

@Rashidi - just out of interest what sort of possession stats do you tend to get with this?

[Riziger]

I've been trying out ideas from this tactic, specifically the TQ/CF(s) and roaming on the front 4 in my Liverpool save. I understand the Narrow+Focus Flanks is meant to create the overloads down either flank. Have you guys sometimes found (even though my team predictably walked the league) that the extreme narrow width can cause too much congestion when the opponents sit deep and narrow as well?

Also... I think this system has similarities to how Liverpool line up in a 4231. I've done some adaptations - Salah at AMR to a IF(A) and Trent at FB to CWB(S). The CM(D) making up for that flank. I also tend to play on positive mentality. I wonder if this upsets the balance as I'm also worried about giving the LB an attacking duty (WB(S)). What do you guys think?

Alternatively... what are your thoughts about 4231 but with deeper DMs as mentioned above. HB/RPM or Anchor/RPM, or DLP(D)/RPM? Then literally turn Trent into Kimmich and play him in the RPM role.

[Rashidi]

53 minutes ago, Riziger said:

wonder if this upsets the balance as I'm also worried about  giving the LB an attacking duty (WB(S)). What do you guys think?

Alternatively... what are your thoughts about 4231 but with deeper DMs as mentioned above. HB/RPM or Anchor/RPM, or DLP(D)/RPM? Then literally turn Trent into Kimmich and play him in the RPM role.

Its always good to try things out and see what happens, nothing inherently wrong with what you propose, plus congestion in the central areas was necessary for my initial design because i wanted the flanks free for the wider players. The 4231deep version is actually what I did in the Controlled Block Preset thread. That tactic was a derivation of this one. So its entirely possible to play with 2DMs the key are the 3 central mids. The one i posted is very aggressive, because that is the style i like, a more reckless one. Conservative styles may include a DM/DLP/AM(S) combo I would avoid the anchorman because he could  stay too deep in a system that still needs to bridge the gap between DM strata and AMC strata.

[Riziger]

1 minute ago, Rashidi said:

Its always good to try things out and see what happens, nothing inherently wrong with what you propose, plus congestion in the central areas was necessary for my initial design because i wanted the flanks free for the wider players. The 4231deep version is actually what I did in the Controlled Block Preset thread. That tactic was a derivation of this one. So its entirely possible to play with 2DMs the key are the 3 central mids. The one i posted is very aggressive, because that is the style i like, a more reckless one. Conservative styles may include a DM/DLP/AM(S) combo I would avoid the anchorman because he could  stay too deep in a system that still needs to bridge the gap between DM strata and AMC strata.

Thanks @Rashidi. Yeah will give them a try this evening. I really like your use of the SV(A) REG but I think for this version those are not considered a 'double pivot' right? Instead here we let the fullbacks bomb forward. Might go with the HB RPM and see first, but might change the HB to DLP (either D or S).

Going a little off topic here slightly - if the goal scorer instead comes from the flanks i.e. Salah/Mane. Is the logic of focus play through the middle to 'release' the flanks correct? I realise that this changes the dynamic of the tactic quite a bit as this Bayern version is kind of meant to draw teams from side to side.

[Rashidi]

5 minutes ago, Riziger said:

Going a little off topic here slightly - if the goal scorer instead comes from the flanks i.e. Salah/Mane. Is the logic of focus play through the middle to 'release' the flanks correct? I realise that this changes the dynamic of the tactic quite a bit as this Bayern version is kind of meant to draw teams from side to side.

Yes exactly, so whenever i apply a focus my eyes are on the side where the focus was not applied to. Essentially how do players and roles work in areas that have more space.

[Gegenklaus]

Thanks for opening my eyes for the focus play-instructions, @Rashidi I love how you with the right roles can create natural overloads then see the side switch where the space has opened up. Love how even a CM-s comes wide or into the half space to build the play and lurk the opposition on one side. 

[ThomasHK1979]

Is it possible to replicate this in some sort of 433 DM formation?

[frukox]

                      TA

IFS                                         IWS       

              BBM       MEZA

                     DMD  

WBS         CD         CD          WBS

                       SKS

Maybe this?

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by frukox

[Paulz]

Really great topic, I have been trying this with At. Madrid as I thought Felix would be good for the TQ role but I'm struggling to get him involved, he isn't scoring, creating chances and he's getting low ratings. Maybe its due to his Teamwork and Work Rate being fairly low (12/11).  

I'm going to try changing his role to an AM(A) to see if he improves and is less of a passenger, but are there any other roles that could fit or he just isn’t suitable for this formation?

Edited December 21, 2020 by Paulz

[cez]

13 hours ago, Paulz said:

Really great topic, I have been trying this with At. Madrid as I thought Felix would be good for the TQ role but I'm struggling to get him involved, he isn't scoring, creating chances and he's getting low ratings. Maybe its due to his Teamwork and Work Rate being fairly low (12/11).  

I'm going to try changing his role to an AM(A) to see if he improves and is less of a passenger, but are there any other roles that could fit or he just isn’t suitable for this formation?

im using a shadow striker role, find him a bit more active overall