Timmy Howard Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 If Pep does go to City, hopefully Bayern will then go for Mourinho leaving Carlo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Get Mourinho in just before the Norwich game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 It would be funny if Mourinho goes United at the end of the season. I could see it and then you lot winning the league however if you are unhappy about LVG's style of play, then good luck with Mourinho. Mourinho doesn't play attractive football but it's far more attractive style than LVG's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshotbg Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 If Pep does go to City, hopefully Bayern will then go for Mourinho leaving Carlo. Can't see Bayern ever wanting Mourinho. Would be a media disaster for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akura Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Can we all stop saying about Mourinho going to united, why on earth would this ever be a thing after this seasons results for chelsea? LVG has united in a far better state than Mourinho had chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Options are Giggs, Hiddink, Rafa Benitez (when he gets sacked), Tuchel or Mourinho. Bobby Martinez might be an outside shot. Has one thing in his locker none of these more illustrious names have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I like Martinez. Like his demeanor, style and the way his players react to him. Interesting choice, but would we actually make a move like that after Moyes? Two Everton managers seems unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Can we all stop saying about Mourinho going to united, why on earth would this ever be a thing after this seasons results for chelsea? LVG has united in a far better state than Mourinho had chelsea. Is he though? We've just been lucky with results. Displays have been on par, if not worse than Chelsea's as of late. I'm not saying I'm supporting the idea of Mourinho to United in any way, I'm just saying that if Chelsea wanted Van Gaal now, I would drive him personally to Stamford Bridge if I lived in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 God, it says something about the current manager if we're considering Mourinho to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Is he though? We've just been lucky with results. Displays have been on par, if not worse than Chelsea's as of late. I'm not saying I'm supporting the idea of Mourinho to United in any way, I'm just saying that if Chelsea wanted Van Gaal now, I would drive him personally to Stamford Bridge if I lived in England. I mean this in the nicest possible way, but this is very, very, very stupid. The only explanation for a statement like that is having not watched Chelsea this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Chelsea have been atrocious in the league but at least have performed in the CL. LVG has not performed anywhere, extremely average in the league and beyond atrocious in the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I mean this in the nicest possible way, but this is very, very, very stupid. The only explanation for a statement like that is having not watched Chelsea this season. Tbf since September Chelsea have won five matches. We've won four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Tbf since September Chelsea have won five matches. We've won four. Shame about the 5 league games they lost over that period too. CL is a distraction from the horror of their league campaign for Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Oh yeah, they've been abominable. But, though I don't believe it myself, I can see why there's a case that we're in a similar state, particularly based on recent results. Our league standing is significantly skewed by five wins from our first seven games; seven teams of which four have since changed manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 That and the one league defeat since Arsenal. If we'd skipped all our games before October 17th and just started playing then, we'd still only be 2 points behind Chelsea. Like I said, it's not even in the same universe. We've been very poor for the last few months, Chelsea have less than a point a game and -17 GD on us. They're on a whole other planet of bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 why are we wanting Jose after that shower.. and when Pep is available Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I do hope we don't do something crazy like bring him in. If you are really making a move, bring in Carlo. He is fresh and a proven winner. Jose is a great manager, but he seems burned out. Who knows what has been going on over there? With his family? With him? Whatever it is, it looks like he needs some air. Carlo or stick it out with LVG and hope we get a player or two in the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUNGSTEVE Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I know we keep going on about getting the godly Pep, but would he bring any great success to the Premiership. I know anything is better than Van Bore, but Pep only two managerial roles have been two clubs who have a monopoly of funds in their league (Duopoly in Spain) which they for a start wouldn't get here, as all Premiership sides share the Sky money. Yes he would have sufficient funds here, but so will others including Liverpool, where another indulged manager is already finding it is not as easy as many thought. Also although the standard of football is not higher, the way football is played is of a high tempo throughout in nearly all games, which is certainly different to the slower build up play he is used to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 He's also never really had to build a team before. At Barcelona he already had all those great youth team products there, and he took over at Bayern just after they'd won the Champions League. I think we're a lot further from a finished article than either of those teams were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 To be fair, at Barcelona, Pep took over a team on the down, and had to rebuild the team. He sold Ronaldinho and Deco, the two stars of the old team, and rebuilt the team around Xavi. He also promoted many players like Busquets, not to mention bringing back Pique. On the whole, I agree though, there are definitely still questions over whether he can pull off success in the EPL, which is a whole different ball game altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Why would we want Jose? Comes in, may win the league, great for two years and then burns the club to the ground and leaves it in a worse state than when he came. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 I see Muller has signed a contract extension with Bayern, not like we had any chance of getting him in the first place but that surely puts the rumours to bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Has anyone come out and debunked the rumour about Rooney yet? They've been floating around a while and they've made the paper that claimed he came in drunk retract so I assume this would be next. If he really has been battling depression for a while then that would explain a hell of a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Because we've come out of a long term relationship with the perfect woman in Ferguson & we are rebounding all over the place. Moyes was the safe option but she had no personality & was boring. We're now with the crazy girl who does completely mental things but does the bare minimum to keep you interested. Might as well go for the experienced girl that is Mourinho, been around, done everything but knowing it'll only be a short term thing. But those two years? They'll be awesome. Then she guts you & leaves you in a worse state than you've ever been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Has anyone come out and debunked the rumour about Rooney yet? They've been floating around a while and they've made the paper that claimed he came in drunk retract so I assume this would be next. If he really has been battling depression for a while then that would explain a hell of a lot. Depression? First Ive heard of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 We kid ourselves that the Premiership is this hard mystical league that cant be cracked. Pep would be as succesful here as can be possible with the resources at his disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Has anyone come out and debunked the rumour about Rooney yet? They've been floating around a while and they've made the paper that claimed he came in drunk retract so I assume this would be next. If he really has been battling depression for a while then that would explain a hell of a lot. Red Issue seems confident that there is a non-football reason behind his absence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Depression? First Ive heard of it? First I've heard of it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 The last couple of pages in the Rooney thread on Redcafe are full of it, depression and alcoholism. However there's no concrete source on anything so I expected it to have been publically rebuked like the story about him coming in drunk to training was. Hopefully it's not true, pretty horrible thing to have to deal with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Why would we want Jose? Comes in, may win the league, great for two years and then burns the club to the ground and leaves it in a worse state than when he came. Same reasons we should have got him in the first place - he gets us back to winning pots post-Fergie while his successor has a clean-up job rather than having to follow a dynasty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I know we keep going on about getting the godly Pep, but would he bring any great success to the Premiership. I know anything is better than Van Bore, but Pep only two managerial roles have been two clubs who have a monopoly of funds in their league (Duopoly in Spain) which they for a start wouldn't get here, as all Premiership sides share the Sky money. Yes he would have sufficient funds here, but so will others including Liverpool, where another indulged manager is already finding it is not as easy as many thought. Also although the standard of football is not higher, the way football is played is of a high tempo throughout in nearly all games, which is certainly different to the slower build up play he is used to. Lol... 250million worth of players is... "sufficient" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Martial has won the Golden Boy award. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I know we keep going on about getting the godly Pep, but would he bring any great success to the Premiership. I know anything is better than Van Bore, but Pep only two managerial roles have been two clubs who have a monopoly of funds in their league (Duopoly in Spain) which they for a start wouldn't get here, as all Premiership sides share the Sky money. Yes he would have sufficient funds here, but so will others including Liverpool, where another indulged manager is already finding it is not as easy as many thought. Also although the standard of football is not higher, the way football is played is of a high tempo throughout in nearly all games, which is certainly different to the slower build up play he is used to. To say Klopp is not finding it easy with a pretty poor Liverpool side after no more than a few weeks to have worked with them seems a little harsh. He's done very good things in that time. The tempo would be no issue. The Bundesliga is a very fast paced league thanks to sides like Levekusen and Dortmund. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUNGSTEVE Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 To say Klopp is not finding it easy with a pretty poor Liverpool side after no more than a few weeks to have worked with them seems a little harsh. He's done very good things in that time.The tempo would be no issue. The Bundesliga is a very fast paced league thanks to sides like Levekusen and Dortmund. I am not saying Liverpool have a champions elect squad, as they don't, but all we kept hearing was as soon as the great Klopp was here everything would change for the better as he waved his magic wand. Unfortunately, things are not as simple as that, and a couple of incidents recently show that even he loses control rather easy when things don't go to plan. His silly comments/reactions to WBA/Pullis spring to mind. My concerns regarding Pep is not that he isn't a top manager, but that it is a different scenario playing over here, & will not have a monopoly on funds & talent like he is used to. He maybe great, & be the greatest manager ever in these lands, but then until he manages he is an unknown quantity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayUnited Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I am not saying Liverpool have a champions elect squad, as they don't, but all we kept hearing was as soon as the great Klopp was here everything would change for the better as he waved his magic wand. Unfortunately, things are not as simple as that, and a couple of incidents recently show that even he loses control rather easy when things don't go to plan. His silly comments/reactions to WBA/Pullis spring to mind.My concerns regarding Pep is not that he isn't a top manager, but that it is a different scenario playing over here, & will not have a monopoly on funds & talent like he is used to. He maybe great, & be the greatest manager ever in these lands, but then until he manages he is an unknown quantity. Yeah I agree, perhaps Ancelotti could take over? He does have incredible experience at managing top teams and creating a happy cohesive dressing room with his affable personality. Of course this is all wishful thinking, I expect LVG to carry on managing the club and the players displaying his sterile possession football on the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 So, are we going to convincingly beat Norwich today or will this be another nail in the coffin for LvG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViG1980 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 It is one of those days where if we lose it's bad for obvious reasons but it is another step closer to getting LVG out. If we win it is good for obvious reasons but bad in that it gives LVG more time and there is less chance of us getting someone else in we would prefer - Pep, Carlo or whatever we think the answer is (IMO both are a better option than LVG). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUNGSTEVE Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I expect us to beat Norwich today, & even see Rooney score if he plays. Failure to do so will be very bad, as I can only see Aston Villa as being worse than them in the league. On the downside, that will keep LVG in the job longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akura Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Surely a big result today, the players need to step up and get a win to help us keep up with Leicester, they've been way too consistent for my liking, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Rooney starts according to Scowcroft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 That rumor about him appears to be ridiculous, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 It is one of those days where if we lose it's bad for obvious reasons but it is another step closer to getting LVG out. If we win it is good for obvious reasons but bad in that it gives LVG more time and there is less chance of us getting someone else in we would prefer - Pep, Carlo or whatever we think the answer is (IMO both are a better option than LVG). I expect us to beat Norwich today, & even see Rooney score if he plays. Failure to do so will be very bad, as I can only see Aston Villa as being worse than them in the league. On the downside, that will keep LVG in the job longer. Papers saying Carlo going to Bayern. And Jose not interested in taking time. Have to think Pep to Citeh for crazy money. That leaves.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohanzee Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 We'll probably end up with Benitez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (Wrong thread) :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUNGSTEVE Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 We'll probably end up with Benitez With Ferguson looking over his shoulder. Should be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Young starts...at fullback after being ignored for the last few games. Fellaini and Carrick in the middle, oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Young starts...at fullback after being ignored for the last few games. Fellaini and Carrick in the middle, oh dear. Can't afford to lose anymore games so he can't be a moron with the team selection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Carrick playing in midfield by himself today then. Hopefully Mata is back out to start from the right. He isn't very effective from the centre. If we don't win today I will be firmly in the we need a change camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Just highlighting the incomprehensible facts that he's ignored Young as a sub but will start him...nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Martial out right and Mata in the centre Has Fellaini been in any position that anyone would class as centre mid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.