*Official* Football Manager 2013 Constructive non-ME Feedback Thread

[Michael F]

There is a random man on the pitch when I play. He wears a blue top and stands on the pitch in front of the goalpost. I don't know how to do a screen shot but its really weird.

Smurf streaker!

[Bababui]

To be honest, I expected more. But, I have faith that the developers will come through with a final solution....

That would certainly end the moaning..

[Zilkin]

PaulC posted another ME fix in the ME thread http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/320432-Next-match-engine-update-fixes-so-far...%28-updated-20th-November-%29

Match v1318

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- Fixed keepers not reacting to powerful close range shots

Keep it up guys... cant wait for this update to go live!

As nice this is, the fact they are still adding to the patch probably means it's still at least couple days away which isn't so nice!

[DrizzitD]

As nice this is, the fact they are still adding to the patch probably means it's still at least couple days away which isn't so nice!

I guess but I still like to know when they do something and I applaud the update to let us know they are doing it

[Fabio MVP]

Why are people waiting for the update to be released this week when PaulC said yesterday that it will be released sometime next week?

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/324243-*Official*-Football-Manager-2013-Constructive-Feedback-Thread?p=8299419&viewfull=1#post8299419

Or am I missing something?

[Welshace]

Why are people waiting for the update to be released this week when PaulC said yesterday that it will be released sometime next week?

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/324243-*Official*-Football-Manager-2013-Constructive-Feedback-Thread?p=8299419&viewfull=1#post8299419

Or am I missing something?

You're missing something.. he says sometime IN the next week Fabio...

[daylight]

Why are people waiting for the update to be released this week when PaulC said yesterday that it will be released sometime next week?

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/324243-*Official*-Football-Manager-2013-Constructive-Feedback-Thread?p=8299419&viewfull=1#post8299419

Or am I missing something?

He said "sometime in the next week" which is anytime in the next 7 days.

Welshace the ninja

[milnerpoint]

Yeah Fabio, he said in the next week! Come on son!

[Fabio MVP]

You're missing something.. he says sometime IN the next week Fabio...

Given that he said it yesterday, does it mean that he reffers to it being released next week because he said ''in the next week'' or did he mean ''in the next week'' as ''in the next 7 days''?

[Fabio MVP]

Yeah Fabio, he said in the next week! Come on son!

How dare you to correct me?!

[Q.P.R]

A lot of you folk are really expecteing far too much ..

Paul c and his team iv been working on the ME for two years . do you really think that is going to get much better after a extra 2 weeks .. Not a chance in hell

And very fact that paul c has allready pointed out , that it will still not be right , says it all

[milnerpoint]

Why bother waiting around for it then? Just count your losses and move on.

[Q.P.R]

Why bother waiting around for it then? Just count your losses and move on.

And your thinking i am waiteing ..

[Fabio MVP]

A lot of you folk are really expecteing far too much ..

Paul c and his team iv been working on the ME for two years . do you really think that is going to get much better after a extra 2 weeks .. Not a chance in hell

And very fact that paul c has allready pointed out , that it will still not be right , says it all

He said it won't be perfect. We all know that. Nothing is perfect. But, it will most probably be the best ME, so far ever. They will hopefully release another ME update around Xmas time.

[Welshace]

A lot of you folk are really expecteing far too much ..

Paul c and his team iv been working on the ME for two years . do you really think that is going to get much better after a extra 2 weeks .. Not a chance in hell

And very fact that paul c has allready pointed out , that it will still not be right , says it all

No. People aren't expecting perfection.. they are expecting improvements that are needed... that's all.. everyone knows it's a slow process, particularly with this being a rewrite of the ME.

[Spedding]

A lot of you folk are really expecteing far too much ..

Paul c and his team iv been working on the ME for two years . do you really think that is going to get much better after a extra 2 weeks .. Not a chance in hell

And very fact that paul c has allready pointed out , that it will still not be right , says it all

and how long was the last ME in development for and it still wasn't perfect,

give it time it will get better with each update

[roykela]

A lot of you folk are really expecteing far too much ..

Paul c and his team iv been working on the ME for two years . do you really think that is going to get much better after a extra 2 weeks .. Not a chance in hell

And very fact that paul c has allready pointed out , that it will still not be right , says it all

It'll never be right.

FM12 ME was better but that wasn't right either. It'll forever be developed.

The moment it won't that's when it might start going the wrong way.

[milnerpoint]

And your thinking i am waiteing ..

So if your not waiting for the patch, why are you coming on here saying the update wont be that good? Why not just stop coming on here and take up a new game?

[StewartJRobertson]

I have tried. I am now on my fourth save after being sacked twice and on the verge of being sacked once. I am failing badly.

I have been playing these games for roughly 20 years now. I have always been able to tweak or change my tactic to at least find a relatively decent level of consistency. What I am finding most frustrating about FM2013 is that no matter what I try, nothing seems to have any reasonable effect. If I tweak my tactics during a game, it always ends with me losing. Usually losing heavily. If I try and keep things simple and consistent, I seem to flit from one extreme to the other.

My Blackburn team just beat Bolton 5-1 away from home. I praised them in the press and in the dressing room. They responded positively to my team talks. I made only one change to the starting eleven (due to suspension I dropped Rhodes for Gomes) and yet I lose the next game 4-0 to Derby at home. This is not even surprising, its just an example of how my games have been going for me.

Whether it's my tactics, my ability, my line-up, my coaching, match prep etc... or whether this game is just ridiculously harder than it has been in previous years... it doesnt matter.

The fact is I'm no longer enjoying the experience.

[Fancy Gaffot]

A lot of you folk are really expecteing far too much ..

Paul c and his team iv been working on the ME for two years . do you really think that is going to get much better after a extra 2 weeks .. Not a chance in hell

And very fact that paul c has allready pointed out , that it will still not be right , says it all

I just want the tax issue fixed. I don't have many problems with ME in my games, only in simulated games (Stoke always in top 5 and target men like Dzeko, Crouch and Fletcher are always top scorers). Also in World Cup 2014 France, Spain, Germany, Argentina and Italy couldn't even qualify from their groups and Senegal won the WC, very unrealistic.

[Korleone]

Stiil 15 goals from corners in premier league and 9 in anothers competions (in one year)

another good season (already nine/12 matches! ).. seems it works my set pieces

[Eugster]

No chance of the patch tomorrow is there? I'd rather wait for the patch before starting but I don't wanna wait much longer.

[Kriss]

Don't keep asking, it will be here when it's here, end of!

[Sikker]

FM13 just got updated.

[Neil Brock]

New update out now - http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/331343-UPDATE-13.1.3-RELEASED-for-Football-Manager-2013?p=8305456#post8305456

Changelist included in that link.

[Neil Brock]

May as well post it here too:

Changelist 13.1.3

The new build includes, but is not limited to, the changes below:

MATCH ENGINE

v1313

· Refined position of d-line and also the lines in front of it when defending

· Brought wingers a bit deeper when defending

· Weaker players more likely to favour direct passes quicker

· Improved short pass accuracy slightly

· Tried to increase number of crosses slightly

· Fine-tuned shot accuracy

· Fixed some minor player on ball decision bugs

· Improved trajectory of medium length kicks like free kick shots and corners

· Made players better at offering out ball to team mate

· Tried to improve player reactions to deflected balls or tackles

· Made players more willing to slide tackle when opportunity and need arises

· Fixed some unnatural save directions from keepers

· Fixed keepers trying to save ball at wrong point when its heading for post or bar

· Made players slightly better at turning body while on the run

· Made strongest player stand ground when 2 players collide while going for a header

· Made goal celebration paths a little bit more varied

· Fixed commentary saying ball well wide when not really that far wide

· Some ball physics collision tweaks

· Some team talk fixes

v1314

· Further tuned team shape and d-line position when defending

· AM strata now comes back to defend unless set to "all-out attack"

· Made d-line shift up when opposing player with ball is successfully pressed

· Made d-line shift back quicker when attacking player is running with pace at them with the ball

· Some tweaks to marking of opponents in own area

· Fixed defenders shifting across as full back engages winger in last third causing bad shape

· Tried to reduce instances of players heading ball they could control a split second later

· Some minor fixes relating to player interception of ball

· Some refinements to off ball movement around ball player

· Some general tweaks to pass choice and on ball decision making

· Some more minor keeper save fixes

· Fixed some instances of woodwork hit not being registered

· Fixed player not waiting to get up before running off to celebrate after scoring a diving header

v1315

· Fixed ultra-rare crash when player shoots from close range

· Further small refinements to on ball decisions and pass choice

· Improved direct free kick trajectory slightly

· Improved crossing aim AI

· Fine-tuned pass and shot accuracy slightly

· Improved player reaction and awareness of ball generally

· Improved defensive tracking of player running with ball

· Slight reduction of player reaction time to fast curling balls

· Slight reduction of player reaction time when ball a long way away from them especially if not facing it

· Improved defender lateral positioning when defending wide ball

· Fixed winger not staying wide when asked to hug touchline and ball on his side in advanced position

· Goalkeeper should narrow the angle better when a play is running at him at speed

· Goalkeepers should try to move under the ball path even if they think they can't reach it.

· Fixed a bug where the keeper fails to catch a ball if it has just hit the crossbar/post

· Fixed keeper turning ball over bar described as turning it round post

· Fixed some player collision avoidance issues

· Fixed a bug where an offside is given instead of a free kick for a foul

· Stop a rare teleport bug with goal celebrations

· Fixed animation issues whilst player argues with ref

· Fixed small anomaly in team selection AI

v1316

· Fixed bug causing players to occasionally react too late to pass

· Improved pressing of opponents slightly

· Made players more willing to go for a riskier interception if ball receiver is in a goal scoring position

· Tweaked keeper positioning when facing down attacker

· Reduced pointless passing slightly

· Fine-tuned chance of speculative passes slightly

· Refine kick inaccuracy algorithm slightly

v1317

· Fixed defenders not turning quick enough when tracking player running onto through ball

· Reduced likelihood of players making pass when in clear cut shooting position

V1318

· Fixed keepers not reacting to powerful close range shots

GENERAL/PERFORMANCE

· Improved processing speeds

· Fixed rare crash when pressing ‘Set for Release’

· Fixed sole crash using edited database in network game

· Fixed interface slowdown when scouting hundreds of players at once

· Fixed issue where teams were being overcharged Tax

COMPETITIONS

· Fixed Russian Cup final clash with World Cup call-ups

· Fixed Spanish registration window in 2015/16 season

· Fixed user taking control of friendly, when assistant set to

CONFIDENCE

· Fixed board confidence in relation to ‘Give youth a chance’ promise

· Fixed board expectations not reflecting those set in meeting

· Improved international managerial appointments

GUI

· Fixed live league table widget not holding position

· Fixed attribute colour state saving

· Fixed coaching assignment state saving

· Fixed scrollbar reverting top top when adjusting individual training

· Fixed squad depth chart displaying PA over CA

· Fixed up/down keys not responding post-match

· Fixed new position training state saving

· Fixed custom background pictures not showing

NETWORK

· Added ‘Show only friends’ option to network lobby

· Fixed inconsistent behaviour of timers

· Fixed pre-match force continue proceeding too far

· Fixed client scouting assignments

· Fixed client match vs host, when host on holiday

· Fixed flickering/slowdown on client transfer list screens

TRANSFERS & CONTRACTS

· Staff in FMC now signed onto rolling contracts

· Fixed agents offering players for £200m

· Fixed French transfer values

· Fixed rare instance of transfer news with no option to respond

· Fixed loophole allowing Rangers to break transfer embargo

[jamez91]

Wow I just loaded FM up at 22.06 and it updated. Great news guys

[Altair]

Yeah patch is finally out!

I´m gonna try to start a long term save...

[Vladel]

This is fantastic news!! It's a shame i have to go to bed though

[Candre168]

Taxes not fixed?

[Nico877]

Was just gonna ask. I see no mention of anything tax-related in the list.

[SuperStevieG]

No chance of the patch tomorrow is there? I'd rather wait for the patch before starting but I don't wanna wait much longer.

I'd say no chance at all considering there has been one tonight

[OxfordUnitedFC]

Taxes not fixed?

It says not all fixes are listed below, im sure the tax fix is in there.

[PaulC]

The tax bug fix is included.

[Candre168]

Can you confirm the Italian tax fix is NOT save game compatible? Or is it save game compatible? Thanks.

[Herbert Fandel]

Can you confirm the Italian tax fix is NOT save game compatible? Or is it save game compatible? Thanks.

It is SaveGame compatible, but you wont get lost money back, you will just not lose any more

[Boydy9]

The tax bug fix is included.

Thanks to all for the work done getting this fixed, I liked the ME before though so you better not have broken it :)

[iknowniknuk]

Late night for me then. Thanks SI.

[Neil Brock]

Can you confirm the Italian tax fix is NOT save game compatible? Or is it save game compatible? Thanks.

You won't get money back but you won't be charged further so yes, it is save game compatible.

[Sikker]

Thanks for all the hard work you've been putting in to make a great game even greater.

[Welshace]

Update applied... black screen of death upon loading the game will verify cache etc and let you know how it goes ...

[Herbert Fandel]

Update applied... black screen of death upon loading the game will verify cache etc and let you know how it goes ...

Can report that that isn't universal! Really hope you get that fixed soon welshace

[ScottGooner]

SI what kind of dirty trick are you playing, releasing the patch at 10pm, so much for going to bed early!

Cheers for all the hard work.

[Welshace]

Can report that that isn't universal! Really hope you get that fixed soon welshace

Ahh it'll be fine... just a reinstall if all else fails ..

[Rhophon]

guys, just checked tutorial again, and achievement not unlocking with this update, so it wasn't fixed.

[Robsy1990]

New patch is good, pleased with ME changes, but I've posted about that in the ME thread. Just wanted to ask, are the see-through window panes normal? I now I'm currently using a 3rd party skin (Steklo X) but it happens even on the default skin. I'm talking about the windows that say 'Advice From' and the 'Individual & Positional Team Talks'. It was happening before the patch but I've only just thought to bring it up.

[Nico877]

Something happened with the previous patch that made all players currently away on loan appear in the first team rather than in the reserves. Before the previous patch they were in the reserves, but it changed. "Problem" is still present in tonight's patch.

[Neil Brock]

guys, just checked tutorial again, and achievement not unlocking with this update, so it wasn't fixed.

Not everything has been fixed, only the most important issues I'm afraid.

[Herbert Fandel]

New patch is good, pleased with ME changes, but I've posted about that in the ME thread. Just wanted to ask, are the see-through window panes normal? I now I'm currently using a 3rd party skin (Steklo X) but it happens even on the default skin. I'm talking about the windows that say 'Advice From' and the 'Individual & Positional Team Talks'. It was happening before the patch but I've only just thought to bring it up.

Pretty sure this doesn't happen if you don't have 3rd party skins installed, even if you are using default one. as in your skins folder is empty and the cache has been reloaded. Sorry if that isn't the case, but I'm fairly sure it is

[Lucas]

New patch is good, pleased with ME changes, but I've posted about that in the ME thread. Just wanted to ask, are the see-through window panes normal? I now I'm currently using a 3rd party skin (Steklo X) but it happens even on the default skin. I'm talking about the windows that say 'Advice From' and the 'Individual & Positional Team Talks'. It was happening before the patch but I've only just thought to bring it up.

Try clearing your cache (http://www.sigames.com/faq/fm13.php?id=68)