nick1408 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I have him signed at Dortmund at the moment. Unfortunately I didn't screenshot him from the start and the above is at 31 October 2013 after being on heavy Wing BCack training since his purchase on 01 January 2013. I plan for him to take over from Marcel Schmelzer in a couple of seasons. I don't think too many people would go down this path but with Dortmund's young attacking strength I felt he could easily dominate the LB position. I also have the luxury of having a very versatile layer and he has held down AMR as an inside forward and MC as a deep lying playmaker in both support and defend. I purchased him for five million pounds, which considering the years of service I feel will pay for itself. I am payinmg him 800k per year but again, I am not concerned considering the service he will provide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 He always scores against me this is what he looks like on mine season season 2016/17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCRONALDO Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I have him signed at Dortmund at the moment. Unfortunately I didn't screenshot him from the start and the above is at 31 October 2013 after being on heavy Wing BCack training since his purchase on 01 January 2013. I plan for him to take over from Marcel Schmelzer in a couple of seasons. I don't think too many people would go down this path but with Dortmund's young attacking strength I felt he could easily dominate the LB position. I also have the luxury of having a very versatile layer and he has held down AMR as an inside forward and MC as a deep lying playmaker in both support and defend. I purchased him for five million pounds, which considering the years of service I feel will pay for itself. I am payinmg him 800k per year but again, I am not concerned considering the service he will provide. Im actually amazed you're training him to be a LB when he has everything for an amazing central midfielder, id train him to dictate tempo and watch him run games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisHolyHighness Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Stick him as an Advanced Playmaker and he will ruin teams. Making him a wingback is such a waste of his talent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manden Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I like the idea of making him a wingback, I'm not keen on playing players who are right/left only as CM's or AM's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo456 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Nothing wrong with making him a wing back, he definitely has the attributes although his creativity would possibly be a little wasted wide. I'm more disgusted how a player of his ability has ended up playing for Stoke, never has a player suited a club less Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1408 Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yeah, as I said, I don't need midfielders at Dortmund as I have plenty of talented young guys to fill these spots. What I don't have is the attacking full backs/wing backs to support them. I sort of knew people wouldn't like seeing this but it was a need and I identified him to fill it. Also, I think it shows the versatility he has in his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marieweaver132 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I would affect the idea of making him a wingback. So keep it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Things Could Get Messi Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Still at Derby in the 2016/17 season on my save. He looks like he is going to be class as his attributes are very good for a 21 year old but for some strange reason he still hasn't been bought by a bigger club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manden Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I bought him with Newcastle in Jan 2014, after 6 months he is now awkward as LB. He has played 10 games at an average rating of 7.18 - which got him called up to the England squad for the world cup, as the youngest member of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Just started a game with Derby. Playing him as an AMs on top of a narrow diamond midfield. Scored 5 goals in the first 12 league matches and had some assists too. Looking good As finances are fairly tight I'm afraid that one day I'll have to let him go in order to make some money unless I win promotion before that day comes. Gor how much does he move in the game, i.e. how much would I be able to make off him if needed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke mark Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I have him at Stoke, bought him for £6 mill in 2014 and he has been excellent. Playing him as an AM in a 4231 formation and his worst average has been 7.31 He is now worth £18.5 mill got 18 months left on his contract but have just offered him a renewed 4 year contract wpaying him £125k p/w Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Was brilliant today irl. All the big boys want to sign him now. Top notch performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Governator Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Signed him for my Southampton side, and he is currently running the starters I had in CM out of their positions. Top quality player, he owns the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirToby Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Decent player for my United team. Scored 15 and assisted 11 last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex_guy2k2 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I see the positives of having him as a wing-back. He lacks the pace and dribbling ability, and he's too one footed to play as an AMC for me... well, for a really top side anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 3m for him in 2016 season, Free transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Cheers. But how much do AI clubs offer for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelBrown Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Great potential and a good player in real life. Definite purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Here he is on my Derby save in November season 2. He has developed really fast and as you can see is getting high ratings as an AMC in my first season in the prem. Scored 15 goals in the championship from midfield last season but is playing a little deeper now behind 3 strikers in the prem. Plays some awesome through balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeesterCat Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Just picked him up for £6 million in my Liverpool save. I'm going to get Gerrard tutoring him and mould him into a DLP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idol1 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 what ppm's have people had success in teaching him? signed him for Birmingham first season, has been largely disappointing for me so far as an AMa in an 4-2-3-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisHolyHighness Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Looks to play the killer ball is one I taught him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idol1 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Yeah i have him 50% of the way to learning "tries killer balls often", Guess i'll just have to persevere with him. It's a shame there is nobody to really tutor him in the Birmingham squad. unless i can get somebody in after promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlivierL Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I Just bought him in my Man utd save for 5milj (euro) + 5 milj (paid over 18 months) and extra 15 milj if he plays 20 EPL games. over paid ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeesterCat Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I Just bought him in my Man utd save for 5milj (euro) + 5 milj (paid over 18 months) and extra 15 milj if he plays 20 EPL games.over paid ? Possibly. I'm not sure which season you're in, but as I posted a few days ago I have just bought him for my Liverpool team at the beginning of the second season. He cost £6million in total, £4million upfront and £2million based on league and international appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 He's just gone to WBA on my game 2016 for £13.75 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapaJr Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 whats the best position to play him? his technique and flair isnt the greatest and his physical attributes are pretty good so i think its best to play him in MC and not AMC, and as a deep lying playmaker. what do you guys think? also, what is his PA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Governator Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 whats the best position to play him? his technique and flair isnt the greatest and his physical attributes are pretty good so i think its best to play him in MC and not AMC, and as a deep lying playmaker. what do you guys think? also, what is his PA? Having played him in around 20 games as a CM and 20 as an AMC, I can say that in my personal experience he has been a decent playmaker from the CM position, but when put further forward he becomes an assist-making machine. He was pivotal in helping my team secure a Europa League spot. I'd go AMC - Advanced Playmaker with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlivierL Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Possibly. I'm not sure which season you're in, but as I posted a few days ago I have just bought him for my Liverpool team at the beginning of the second season. He cost £6million in total, £4million upfront and £2million based on league and international appearances. I'm at the start of my third season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Valued at 12 million now for me in March season 2 and just ripped Arsenal a new arse at their place in the league playing as an advanced playmaker in the AMC position, scored two and assisted 1 in a 3-0 away win with the mighty Derby Have him set as playmaker and my central striker as target man, run onto ball, and he threads balls through the back line like Gazza!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopfan1977 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 This kid and also Mason Bennett from Derby are two awesome talents. I have tried for a couple of months now to sign both, but derby always refuse (even a 12mil cash bid) but then they went and got promoted which made it even harder to try and sign them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Things Could Get Messi Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Into 2018 now and he is an England regular. He moved to Celtic on a free transfer from Derby in 2017 and was far too good for the SPL. I found this quite disappointing really as he should of been moving to a better league (no offence Scottish readers) and Derby had just got into the Premier League as well. Luckily, he only stayed at Celtic for a year before Fulham paid 8m for him. Will be interesting to see how to does in the English Premier League but he very much looks the part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marling Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Here he is on my save, I've had him since season 2 he was AMCL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Andy T Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The hair always puts me off, great player tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezisaram Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 he plays as a cm for me, 3rd season still improving, talented player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Tempted to retrain him as a left back also, or just play him as AML. I find him far too one footed for a central role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhill89 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 signed him at start of second season for Spurs (£4.4m). Is he good enough to start matches or worth sending on a season long loan? Or get him tutored by a Spurs player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo456 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I would start him in European games, but probably isn't physical enough to play Prem every week yet. If he gets enough games though, second and third season can be his breakthrough year, and will cut teams open if given the chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Have my scouts looking at him start of second season, but we're being quoted prices like £17 million for him and considering some of the more experienced players who are rocking up on the transfer list going in to christmas I doubt we'll be making a move for him yet. Will keep him shortlisted though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJoe Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I have managed to sign him in my first season on my Newcastle save for $4M, bargain price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake_robinson Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Signed him as a free transfer in 2015/16 on a Dortmund save. Now 3 seasons on in 2018/19 but I still can't see him as a first choice CM or AM because attribute wise he's just consistently good but not excellent at everything. Each season he's not part of my first team plans at the start so I tend to send him on money spinning loan deals, however this season he went to Bayern on loan and was tearing up so recalled him as he was helping their title challenge too much. But since returning he's my only player averaging under 7.00. Loan Record: Liverpool (5m loan) - 38 apps; 11 goals; 6 assists; 7.32 rating Everton (2.5m loan) - 32 apps; 10 goals; 10 assists; 7.50 rating Bayern (half season 2.2m loan) - 16 apps; 9 goals; 2 assists; 7.60 rating For me: Dortmund - 11 apps; 0 goals; 3 assists; 6.98 rating I tend to play a staggered midfield with a DM (Busquets/wonderkid regen), RCM (Vidal/Gundogan), LAM (Bittencourt/wonderkid regen) so in theory he could actually be my ideal RCM as being left-footed he can attack nicely. And with Vidal & Gundogan both on the brink of starting to decline as footballers (Gundogan's also had a poor season) it could work out nicely, but he's just not cutting it at the moment. For AM Bittencourt has developed into a fantastic player and I can't see Hughes ousting him. After seeing this thread I'm now considering a foolish idea of training him to LB & training Alaba to take over in RCM... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboola Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I've had him as a WBL in the past and until some pretty major injuries he was really coming on. Certainly worth a punt and a retrain, just a shame he looks like the lovechild of Boris Johnson! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake_robinson Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I had a bid of 45m from Barcelona at the end of that season which was just far too good to turn down. Enabled me to sign Thiago Alcantara instead who has been a huge improvement for CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Manager. Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Nothing wrong with making him a wing back, he definitely has the attributes although his creativity would possibly be a little wasted wide.I'm more disgusted how a player of his ability has ended up playing for Stoke, never has a player suited a club less I'm sure that comes with experience of watching him every week with your derby county season ticket! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab_11 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Signed him as a free transfer in 2015/16 on a Dortmund save. Now 3 seasons on in 2018/19 but I still can't see him as a first choice CM or AM because attribute wise he's just consistently good but not excellent at everything. Each season he's not part of my first team plans at the start so I tend to send him on money spinning loan deals, however this season he went to Bayern on loan and was tearing up so recalled him as he was helping their title challenge too much. But since returning he's my only player averaging under 7.00. Loan Record: Liverpool (5m loan) - 38 apps; 11 goals; 6 assists; 7.32 rating Everton (2.5m loan) - 32 apps; 10 goals; 10 assists; 7.50 rating Bayern (half season 2.2m loan) - 16 apps; 9 goals; 2 assists; 7.60 rating For me: Dortmund - 11 apps; 0 goals; 3 assists; 6.98 rating I tend to play a staggered midfield with a DM (Busquets/wonderkid regen), RCM (Vidal/Gundogan), LAM (Bittencourt/wonderkid regen) so in theory he could actually be my ideal RCM as being left-footed he can attack nicely. And with Vidal & Gundogan both on the brink of starting to decline as footballers (Gundogan's also had a poor season) it could work out nicely, but he's just not cutting it at the moment. For AM Bittencourt has developed into a fantastic player and I can't see Hughes ousting him. After seeing this thread I'm now considering a foolish idea of training him to LB & training Alaba to take over in RCM... Is it possible for you to upload a screenshot of your tactic? I've just started what i think could be a similar tactic on my United save. How has it gone for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellos Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I signed him for Newcastle at the start of season 2 for £5.75m and he rotates with Sissoko and Cabaye as an advanced playmaker in CM. Screenshot taken in July 2015. He's done a lot of developing and still has a way to go according to my coaches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneyhero Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Sgned him at start for qpr, slowley bled him in, by 4th season was first choice, now won everything with me barring champs league and captains england. Worth 19 million, so consistant 7.86 av over 52 apps last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akuji2012 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 bought him for 12 million 2nd season for Blackburn. won league and got into Europe but he wasn't happy and wanted a higher profile team to play for. sold him for 40 million middle of 3rd season to Chelsea. one of the best players in the game imo had him alongside goreztska in the heart of my midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrun Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Bought him for £3m for my Swansea team in January of the 14/15 season. Went straight into my first team and has remained there since. Its now the 17/18 season and he's worth £25.5m and is easily one of the best players in the Premiership. Unfortunately his contract is up at the end of the season and I can't afford his wages. Waiting for a suitable offer to come in before I sell. Will Hughes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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