gillsminnow Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Basically had an idea for more info regarding merchandising. Sometimes we get a message saying that when we sign a player it will have an effect on merchandising sales. So how about, in conjunction with the player personality, that players also have another description for marketing and then the figure/sum relating to the amount of money they have contributed to the club so far for that season. It doesn't have to be heavily involved but just give us an indication of how much they're pulling in for the club at any given time for the current season, this should give us a bit more clarity. I've mocked up a screenshot below of how it could look. Could also be a table similar to the richest clubs table that demonstrates the biggest merchandise earners globally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielM_90 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 That would be a quality addition imo, id like to see that added in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 i agree, a good little addition to help you generate more revenue for your club, particularly in lower leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Good idea, viable to do. I particularly like the Marketing Description entry - if a player is in bad form they could be a "boo boy." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markcator3006 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Sounds like a good idea well thought out bud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillsminnow Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Can you mention it to whoever deals with that then please, skorp? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjoggi33 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 good idea. i would really like that in the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLara Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Yeah good idea. well thought out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLara Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Actually i've changed my mind It's a GREAT idea really is! I think it's something id use when looking to buy a player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 good idea Gills, would be a great idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umney Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Pretty cool idea Gills, would be a nifty little feature to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIrelandIsAGnome Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Good idea It'd certainly help in the lower realms of the football leagues! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I dont want to be rep[etetive now but it really is a goos idea.! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uppercut Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 this is a great idea, finally you'd be able to see how much those big signing are earning you, as well as those "big in the far east players" too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Can you mention it to whoever deals with that then please, skorp? Sure, it is now logged in our database with a link to this thread. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillsminnow Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Cheers skorp, appreciated. Have also added a line of text to the opening post about a chart similar to the richest clubs table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I’d like some rough estimates given of money made form players, even if they won’t be definite amounts. Would also be nice if it links to selling a player where you would receive a message from your commercial director saying that you’re likely to lose £xm in lost revenue if you sell the play which could leave you with a dilemma depending on the money on offer. Do you keep your Chinese winger on the books and continue to reap the financial benefits (some of which will be pumped into your transfer fund hopefully), or do you sell him on and bring in that English guy you’re after, but will generate less income in the long run? I’d probably just abuse the system though and make my team up of a money spinning XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almondo Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Great idea gills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 i particularly like the marketing description, as mentioned above boo-boy, club legend. you could even be more advanced and have the region ie Park Ji-Sung would be the far east. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 good idea. p.s. bit of a quiz for you guys, is that aaron ramseys legs or mark randalls in the picture? ; ] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron_AO Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 seems good but i'd rather they fix the 1000000 bugs + develop long term play before adding new stuff which have the possibility of being even more buggy. great idea tho mate. the numbers i'd rather be in the financial department personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
small Mac Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Not sure how realistic it is to have an exact amount of merchandising revenue per player. Also would you only have this info on your own players, or everyone, or players scouted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillsminnow Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Financial info on own players only, description only on players you've scouted. And in the table for the biggest merchandise generators the media would give rough figures that they thought were correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
small Mac Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I like this idea and I think those different levels of information would work well. Again though, even for your own players i'm not sure how realistic it is to have exact figures to the nearest pound. Maybe if it was more of an estimate and rated to the nearest £1k, £10k or even £100k depending on size of club, i feel that would be a bit more realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillsminnow Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Yeah am in agreement, when I did the mock up I just pressed a few random buttons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_132 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Actually i've changed my mindIt's a GREAT idea really is! I think it's something id use when looking to buy a player would the scout be able to tell you whether a potential signing's reputation could create a massive profit from merchandising? good idea btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougess Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Fantastic suggestion Would like to see the scale of the descriptions, ie Global icon, National Treasure / Hero, Local Hero (ie a home-grown fans favourite), etc. I'd really love to see this in the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverride Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What a refeshing change this is. Not only a geniunely good idea that could really affect deciding which player to sign but not one negative/stupid respone Good idea Gills hope to see it in 2010:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukegjpotter Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 It could be a hidden Attribute like Consistency, but change in-game like Reputation. Then somebody could set up a challenge to create the modern day galactoes (sp?) like Madrid were with Beckham, Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo and Raul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Pats on the back for GillsMinnow! Great idea mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeLikeFM Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 best idea ive seen on these forums in a while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair_Athlete Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 It would be good to see if a player you bought is bringing in much money from jersey sales etc. or helping with deciding which of two back up players to sell but I can't imagine clubs giving out information on how much money a player brings in from merchandise sales to other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillsminnow Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 Any idea if this is being included? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avine Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 so here is where ideas come from:p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr_ironside Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I think if the figures were approximate it would be great.. Particularly for LLMs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemeures Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 would really like to see this implemented more to the op soon. Think its likely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskiew Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I would love to see this implemented too. Too often we have balls idea if a particular player helps our merchandising sales, especially if he has good reputation worldwide and from the same country as our feeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Thought this would of happened by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz32 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Just realised this thread is 3 years old, get this feature in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I think if the figures were approximate it would be great.. Particularly for LLMs As a LLaMa it wouldn't be of any value to me, my starting club don't have enough fans to fill a bus let alone offer any merchandising income. As for the original idea I can see that it would be very useful for some FM'ers, not something that I'd give any attention too as I have never based my decision of player movements on how much income they generate. If they can play football they're in, if they couldn't identify a ball in a ball-pit they're out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby_McDonald Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'm along Barside's thinking here. I don't want the income they bring in, but I do like the popularity description. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr3D@T0r Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'm along Barside's thinking here. I don't want the income they bring in, but I do like the popularity description. The extra income is fine I think, and it would be fun to negotiate image rights % shares etc. but it should not become a dominating feature. Anything to add to the immersion is a great addition for me. It would give those of us who like statistics and get pleasure out of the profit/loss margins a little bit extra to play with! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I do actually try turning a profit but never seem to manage it, this might help with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 As a LLaMa it wouldn't be of any value to me, my starting club don't have enough fans to fill a bus let alone offer any merchandising income. As for the original idea I can see that it would be very useful for some FM'ers, not something that I'd give any attention too as I have never based my decision of player movements on how much income they generate. If they can play football they're in, if they couldn't identify a ball in a ball-pit they're out. I'm along Barside's thinking here. I don't want the income they bring in, but I do like the popularity description. I don't see why it can't be of help to LLM, if you sign a lower league star/has been they're likely to bring in more ticket sales (albeit very little) but every little counts in LLM, right? It's like the A-League in it's current state, signing the like of Kewell, Emerton and in the past, Robbie Fowler in order for merchandising and ticket sales to go up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby_McDonald Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I don't see why it can't be of help to LLM, if you sign a lower league star/has been they're likely to bring in more ticket sales (albeit very little) but every little counts in LLM, right? That's where the popularity rating/description comes in. Both Barside and myself agreed that is a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckz Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Sure, it is now logged in our database with a link to this thread. Cheers Does this database by chance get wiped every year, or did it just 'not warrant inclusion yet', or has the idea been rejected for the sake of security through obscurity, or? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 This is a great idea. Why it hasn't been implemented yet I'll never know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterWolf Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Different clubs could have different types of player that become likely to be fan favourites (either based on players' personality or style of play). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I'm liking the idea as well. Would be nice little useful addition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 In theory it is a good idea. But how could you calculate the contribution? For me in real life it would be impossible, or certainly very difficult. So in FM then it would be even harder. Merchandising is not just shirt sales. An example would be The Manchester United player Park Ji-Sung. It was believed he brought lots of money into the club through the 'Asian' market... But could we allocate £xm per season to him etc etc. We would be plucking figures from out of the sky. It is the extent to wish a player will contribute. And for me it would be very hard to calculate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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