Razor940 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Agora, phnompenhandy disse: Oh bejeezuz, yes ALL my squad, for whom I picked photos and added UIDs to my config one by one are gone You have to put a r- in every id, the problem is with newgan manager, right now seems impossible to use because ids aren't extrated with the "r-". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shj030 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 The game language is set to Japanese, but on the player's individual training screen, the order of ability values seems to be ON even if ``Sort player ability values alphabetically in English'' is turned off. will be displayed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Razor940 said: You have to put a r- in every id, the problem is with newgan manager, right now seems impossible to use because ids aren't extrated with the "r-". So does that mean all those sortitoutsi and D11 facepacks are useless? By "r-" do you mean like this Quote <record from="23501345" to="graphics/pictures/person/23501345/portrait"/> to Quote <record from="r-23501345" to="graphics/pictures/person/r-23501345/portrait"/> Right, I've figured out what I have to do. This will take me all night, and then they'll issue a hotfix that will jigger me again Edited November 30, 2023 by phnompenhandy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shj030 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 If the in-game language is Japanese, the nationality display will be marked with "の". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, alian62 said: Only see short name fix and extinct nations but thats ok . Will check later You know what, you're right, I think I knew of the two issues (kits and short name) and just saw the kits one despite it not being there. It is fixed though, checked on the editor prior to the change list coming out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLdRoN Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 44 dakika önce, angelo994 said: My manager profile picture isn't there anymore. The option also seems to be removed from the settings as well, as far as I can see. Same issue here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conardo Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Hell, the DFB Cup winners list has been updated ...Leipzig has now officially won the 2023 Cup against Frankfurt :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightworker Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 17 minutos atrás, shj030 disse: The game language is set to Japanese, but on the player's individual training screen, the order of ability values seems to be ON even if ``Sort player ability values alphabetically in English'' is turned off. will be displayed. I confirm, this is also happening in other languages. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, xLdRoN said: Same issue here. I'm in mourning. RIP 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiigman Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Anyone know why the flood lights still just stay on regardless? of where the camera is? Just bright lights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kcinnay Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Has pass success percentage been lowered? Even with extreme hoofball settings, it was very rare to get less than 80%. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) Nice list of Improvements, Well done. However, I'm scared that I'm about to find out my overachievement with Colchester and my Philosophy of "You score 3, I'll score 4" is now nerfed and I'll be out of a job come this evening EDIT: I will be disappointed if my Faces have disappeared though Edited November 30, 2023 by KillYourIdols Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conardo Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 vor 2 Minuten schrieb phnompenhandy: I'm in mourning. RIP Wow, 19 £ - did you win something? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napolitanos21 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 So its time for -football- manager? We can finally start a normal save! (I want to believe and praying for that to the God of Football...Diego Armando Maradona help us!). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Conardo said: Wow, 19 £ - did you win something? That was the start of my save. Four years on, and I've won £0 prize money. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diLLa88 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Anyone else have this issue where the post-match analysis only has 1 item instead of multiple items including pass map, etc.? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealRed Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, diLLa88 said: First game since update: At least not a high scoring game, so that's refreshing. Also more substitutions by the AI, good! What worries me a bit are the 22 corners, but let's give it a few games before coming to conclusions. It doesn't worry you that you had 26 shots, 22 corners, x of 2.77 and ZERO goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza79 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, xLdRoN said: Same issue here. this needs sorting, why remove that option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diLLa88 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, RealRed said: It doesn't worry you that you had 26 shots, 22 corners, x of 2.77 and ZERO goals? I do, but I want to give it a bit more time before blaming the match engine. My next game ended 1-1 with 3.47XG (see post earlier above), so that seems slightly worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conardo Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 If you click on opponent analysis in the match report about the next opponent, you still end up in your own team overview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jack Joyce Posted November 30, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, diLLa88 said: I do, but I want to give it a bit more time before blaming the match engine. My next game ended 1-1 with 3.47XG (see post earlier above), so that seems slightly worrying. Just so people are aware, FM's xG model is trained on FM match data from the latest engine. So the xG stat will adapt to the finishing of the current engine automatically and is not likely to be representative of any changes to finishing or chance conversion between versions. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balthaci Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 11 dakika önce, diLLa88 said: Anyone else have this issue where the post-match analysis only has 1 item instead of multiple items including pass map, etc.? Same for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The About Average Jake Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, diLLa88 said: I do, but I want to give it a bit more time before blaming the match engine. My next game ended 1-1 with 3.47XG (see post earlier above), so that seems slightly worrying. 12 minutes ago, RealRed said: It doesn't worry you that you had 26 shots, 22 corners, x of 2.77 and ZERO goals? This is the story of my save so far since the beta. I'm worried now as apart from one or two high scoring games (which I considered realistic) I've always had high xG/low scoring games, or no goals at all. It's actually been very frustrating. Watching my team consistently waste chances. Edited November 30, 2023 by The About Average Jake 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealRed Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jack Joyce said: Just so people are aware, FM's xG model is trained on FM match data from the latest engine. So the xG stat will adapt to the finishing of the current engine automatically and is not likely to be representative of any changes to finishing or chance conversion between versions. but the lack of goals scored are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Popular Post Jack Joyce Posted November 30, 2023 SI Staff Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, RealRed said: but the lack of goals scored are. You can believe what you like, but I'd suggest that you need a lot more than one or two matches to draw any sort of conclusion over there being a lack of goals in the new engine or not. You don't have to go back very far to see real-life matches with these exact sort of situations - PSG v Newcastle only a couple of days ago had an xG of 4.54 for PSG, and they needed a very questionable penalty to even score once. If a team never performed under their xG then football would be very boring! 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzaflow10 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jack Joyce said: Just so people are aware, FM's xG model is trained on FM match data from the latest engine. So the xG stat will adapt to the finishing of the current engine automatically and is not likely to be representative of any changes to finishing or chance conversion between versions. Is this saying it takes time for the xG model in your game to adjust to the latest model? Or that matches played prior to the update do not reflect the current xG model (i.e. the game doesn't adjust those values post hoc)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtic_fc Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) Has the database been updated at all in terms of individual players? Was told Scales and O'Riley's CA would be looked at and they don't appear to have been touched. Waited almost a month for the update and the Celtic squad is still a mess. O'Riley still has a lower CA than Ideguchi. Scales still default transfer listed because his CA is so low. Palma nowhere near Forrest or Haksabanovic in terms CA or PA. Yang's CA miles behind Mikey Johnston. Edited November 30, 2023 by celtic_fc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jack Joyce Posted November 30, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, wazzaflow10 said: Is this saying it takes time for the xG model in your game to adjust to the latest model? Or that matches played prior to the update do not reflect the current xG model (i.e. the game doesn't adjust those values post hoc)? We run a ton of simulated matches via an automated tool which updates our xG data. We then push that data into the next update so all your xG will update immediately for the next match you play. Old matches played on an older ME will use the old xG data still, any new matches will use the new xG data. What it means though is that if finishing was better in a new engine, the xG would be higher per shot to reflect that, so you can't really use xG to identify better or worse finishing from a game balance POV since it's baked into the data in the first place. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ven-Eno Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Razor940 said: My regens got the ids changed and now I can't use newgan manager because it uses the ids without the "r-" I agree... I don't understand the intention of ruining what users do to create a more immersive game. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Ven-Eno said: I agree... I don't understand the intention of ruining what users do to create a more immersive game. Gonna take me all night to put my faces back in my Scottish save. Why??? Was it something to do with adding Japanese faces or something? Any why remove the ability to add a photo to y our manager profile? That's just plain mean. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1977beyond Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Quote Competitions and Rulegroups [Argentina] Competitions now identify the correct winners [Asia] VAR is now used from the Group Stage onwards in the Asian Champions League [Brazil & South Africa] Updates to scheduling to ease fixture congestion [England] Fixed issue where Championship Playoff and FA Cup final would take place on same day [Germany] Update to squad number restrictions [Greece] - Fixed an issue where Greece Super League 2 teams could participate in both championship & relegation group phases [Indonesia] Update to foreign player restrictions [Japan] Updates to match rules and squad registration [Portugal] VAR now to being used in all rounds of the Portuguese League Cup [Serbia] Updates to loan and squad rules [UEFA] Clubs from same nation now kept apart in League Phase of new UEFA Competition format [UEFA] Fixed issue where correct seedings weren't being applied for EUROs [USA] Further fix to MLS international slots disappearing [Various] Further updates to substitution rules to reflect real world Are these parts of the update not saved game compatible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w3t Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) vor 42 Minuten schrieb Kcinnay: Has pass success percentage been lowered? Even with extreme hoofball settings, it was very rare to get less than 80%. Would also love to know if pass completion now has more variance depending on tactics and quality of players. Edited November 30, 2023 by w3t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akinozcan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I don't know if it's just me, but the appearances of the players on the field are different from those in real life. For example, Haaland has black hair, De Bruyne has black hair and is bald on top, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twostepsaway Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I don't really know what people are on , literally now you can play gun-ho without getting punished... ! Even making this hotfix on corners imho wasn't the smartest way possible, but i do appreciate it. Beside that, this M.E. ASTONISHING, gameplay improved, everything improved. If people complain even about that, you should start to learn how to play this game, it's very simple, everything start from player selection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzaflow10 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jack Joyce said: We run a ton of simulated matches via an automated tool which updates our xG data. We then push that data into the next update so all your xG will update immediately for the next match you play. Old matches played on an older ME will use the old xG data still, any new matches will use the new xG data. What it means though is that if finishing was better in a new engine, the xG would be higher per shot to reflect that, so you can't really use xG to identify better or worse finishing from a game balance POV since it's baked into the data in the first place. Got it. Thanks for the explanation. Find it really fascinating it's trained on itself - that's got to take for ever to determine if its "right". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trviggo Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Can I run a save on two different versions of the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jack Joyce Posted November 30, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, wazzaflow10 said: Got it. Thanks for the explanation. Find it really fascinating it's trained on itself - that's got to take for ever to determine if its "right". It's certainly unique but we feel it creates the best metric - if we based our xG numbers on real life finishing then it's never going to be as accurate within an FM world as when trained on FM data, even though we obviously always strive to make our finishing as close to real life as possible anyway, there'll always be slight differences. But it also gives us a lot of added benefits when covering leagues where data coverage isn't the best, for example in lower leagues or in womens football it's very difficult or nigh on impossible to get the level of real-life data our xG models require. But when training using FM data we can play all the matches we like, as many times as we like with all the data that we could possibly ask for. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor940 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutos atrás, Jack Joyce disse: It's certainly unique but we feel it creates the best metric - if we based our xG numbers on real life finishing then it's never going to be as accurate within an FM world as when trained on FM data, even though we obviously always strive to make our finishing as close to real life as possible anyway, there'll always be slight differences. But it also gives us a lot of added benefits when covering leagues where data coverage isn't the best, for example in lower leagues or in womens football it's very difficult or nigh on impossible to get the level of real-life data our xG models require. But when training using FM data we can play all the matches we like, as many times as we like with all the data that we could possibly ask for. Is it normal that in the portuguese translation the attributes in the development hub are sorted like the english one? It's kinda odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jack Joyce Posted November 30, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Razor940 said: Is it normal that in the portuguese translation the attributes in the development hub are sorted like the english one? It's kinda odd. I have no idea sorry, I'm all about the Match Engine so when it comes to this sort of thing I know as much as you do. Best to report it as a bug in the bugs forum and someone will let you know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor940 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 29 minutos atrás, Ven-Eno disse: I agree... I don't understand the intention of ruining what users do to create a more immersive game. Because there was a problem where a lot of regens were robbing existing faces from the cutout facepack and etc. Anw, in the Zealand discord they got a workaround for newgan manager: Citar This is a temporary fix for NewGan breaking on the new update. (I recommend waiting for the official fix as this might cause other issues. Do it at your own risk) Go to: C:\Users\(YouUser)\AppData\Local\Programs\NewGAN-Manager\app Open profile_manager.py in an editor of some sort. Edit line 80 from xml_string.append("<record from=\"{}\" to=\"graphics/pictures/person/{}/portrait\"/>".format(dat[1]+"/"+dat[2], dat[0])) to xml_string.append("<record from=\"{}\" to=\"graphics/pictures/person/r-{}/portrait\"/>".format(dat[1]+"/"+dat[2], dat[0])) Copy your current config and store it elsewhere incase of issues. Rerun the NewGan profile on preserve to keep previous data. Big props to Brogan 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Zachary Whyte Posted November 30, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted November 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, Steve1977beyond said: Are these parts of the update not saved game compatible? Yes, you will need to start a new save game to benefit from the data and Competition/Rulegroup updates. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODNAME Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 After the patch i have a bug in the 3rd Engine that all the players have the same faces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oko030 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) Conveniently, the SI Staff have ignored all the comments highlighting the fact our managers' custom profile pictures have reverted to the generic 3D-newgen ones (guessing because of the 'r-' unique ID changes), and that the ‘Change Profile Picture’ option has now disappeared from the preferences menu, to enable us to get our real png faces back in game for our controlled manager. Why? And how/where can we reupload our custom manager pics? Edited November 30, 2023 by oko030 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Zachary Whyte Posted November 30, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, GOODNAME said: After the patch i have a bug in the 3rd Engine that all the players have the same faces Hello, can you please verify your game files and clear your cache and preference folder. You can see how in the links below. https://support.sega.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19454389352593-How-to-verify-the-integrity-of-Football-Manager-s-files- https://support.sega.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19454208745745-How-to-remove-my-caches-and-or-preferences-folders-in-Football-Manager- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jack Sarahs Posted November 30, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted November 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, akinozcan said: I don't know if it's just me, but the appearances of the players on the field are different from those in real life. For example, Haaland has black hair, De Bruyne has black hair and is bald on top, etc. Hi There I've just checked this internally for you and it seems fine for us? Can you try closing the game, clearing your cache and starting it up again to see if this fixes it? https://support.sega.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19454208745745-How-to-remove-my-caches-and-or-preferences-folders-in-Football-Manager- Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitza Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Newgens will no longer generate incorrect faces I'm not sure if this referred to the dirty faces but I reloaded my skin and they haven't changed yet. (good regen alert) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurbf10 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 First match after new patch: 4-1 win, with 3 goals from attacking throw-ins lol. Btw I'm not saying the patch didn't work, it's just funny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womaz Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Scared to relaod my save if all of the Negen faces are lost. I have soent so long getting this done. Can I stop automatic updates ? If I lose my Regen faces I dont think I can play FM as this current save will be totally ruined Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest83 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minuto atrás, Womaz disse: Scared to relaod my save if all of the Negen faces are lost. I have soent so long getting this done. Can I stop automatic updates ? If I lose my Regen faces I dont think I can play FM as this current save will be totally ruined If you do this to the Config file present on the NEWGAN facepack, all will be good for the faces you have already. Open the config.xml with a text editor and use "search/replace" to change "200" to "r-200". It worked fine for me. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdragon Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Worrying. Still. Very worrying. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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