Icelander83 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Zlatan is Cantona We need someone like Zlatan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 He's a mixture of Cantona and Henrik Larsson, what's not to love? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I would immediately buy an Ibrahimovic-United shirt online if it actually happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Talk of James Wilson going out on loan as well. Surely that can't happen or else you just won't have any players left! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 We're not getting anyone else today either way. Just have to pray that Rooney finds/maintains form and doesn't get an injury. That said, the Euros are next year so he's due a metatarsal break sometime after Christmas... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdevil Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 It's true, I don't deserve Zlatan Yea, his character and reputation would do us good now. He's also a good team player which I've noticed particularly when playing for Sweden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Watched some of replay of PSG v Monaco. Martial or whatever his name is was playing left mid in a 442. Didn't factor much in last 20 I watched. ADM looked very good and had an assist btw. Sigh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Watched some of replay of PSG v Monaco. Martial or whatever his name is was playing left mid in a 442. Didn't factor much in last 20 I watched. ADM looked very good and had an assist btw. Sigh. And what an assist it was. Suppose that's what happens when you play him in his best position and not upfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham_aka_stam Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Something's definitely off. The only transfers in have been completely unknown until they were about to happen, so we know we can keep things quiet. So things like the very vocal Neymar pursuit etc. are obvious PR moves. How thin is the squad? ST: Rooney, Martial, Wilson AMR: Mata, (Martial), Lingard AMC: Herrera, Fellaini, (Mata), Pereira AML: Memphis, Young CM1: Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin CM2: Carrick, (Blind) (Fellaini) RB: Darmian, Valencia CB1: Smalling, Jones, McNair CB2: Rojo, (Blind) LB: Shaw, Blind GK: DDG?, Romero If Wilson is considered good enough to be a part of the squad, why was Hernandez getting games ahead of him? Likewise with Januzaj and Periera/Lingard? Surely it wasn't purely to increase their value/desirability? And hopefully it wasn't a last minute decision on the back of their performances. Just seems very strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 And what an assist it was.Suppose that's what happens when you play him in his best position and not upfront. Infuriating. Just trying to be happy they are not in our group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Something's definitely off.The only transfers in have been completely unknown until they were about to happen, so we know we can keep things quiet. So things like the very vocal Neymar pursuit etc. are obvious PR moves. How thin is the squad? ST: Rooney, Martial, Wilson AMR: Mata, (Martial), Lingard AMC: Herrera, Fellaini, (Mata), Pereira AML: Memphis, Young CM1: Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin CM2: Carrick, (Blind) (Fellaini) RB: Darmian, Valencia CB1: Smalling, Jones, McNair CB2: Rojo, (Blind) LB: Shaw, Blind GK: DDG?, Romero If Wilson is considered good enough to be a part of the squad, why was Hernandez getting games ahead of him? Likewise with Januzaj and Periera/Lingard? Surely it wasn't purely to increase their value/desirability? And hopefully it wasn't a last minute decision on the back of their performances. Just seems very strange. He has done this too many times to call it shop window. It is almost as if he still doesn't know what he has. Getting tiresome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham_aka_stam Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 What was the size of the squad like at Bayern when he was there? I understand the idea, small squad, but almost everyone can play in multiple positions, but there are too many question marks about too many of the backup players IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Why did you let RvP go? I don't understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 So, De Gea definitely staying. What a mess! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 UEFA announce that David de Gea "will 100% remain a @ManUtd player" - the Champions League group stage squad deadline has passed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 "Sky Sources" reckon Madrid not appealing to the league either Oops ... well done, United ... you showed them with your handling of this Who's that git that sent the email they couldn't open? Got 'arry Redknapp on work experience It's time to make nice and DDG get back in goal. Hopefully, he's up to the task knowing he'll be at Madrid next summer with dollar bills bulging out his pockets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 "Sky Sources" reckon Madrid not appealing to the league eitherOops ... well done, United ... you showed them with your handling of this Who's that git that sent the email they couldn't open? Got 'arry Redknapp on work experience It's time to make nice and DDG get back in goal. Hopefully, he's up to the task knowing he'll be at Madrid next summer with dollar bills bulging out his pockets So none of this is on Real, it's all on United? Interesting, nonsensical view of the situation, really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Giggs is getting a hell of a crash course in management here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Man how bad is all this? Navas will be RM's number 1 knowing they don't want him. DDG will be at Man Utd, Man Utd know he does not want to be there, LVG has not picked him this season. God knows what both these players are thinking, will certainly be interesting to see how both fair from now until the end of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 "Sky Sources" reckon Madrid not appealing to the league eitherOops ... well done, United ... you showed them with your handling of this Who's that git that sent the email they couldn't open? Got 'arry Redknapp on work experience It's time to make nice and DDG get back in goal. Hopefully, he's up to the task knowing he'll be at Madrid next summer with dollar bills bulging out his pockets Was that what happened or Madrid just messed up? The sky guy thinks they got cold feet with 2 very good keepers in their ranks and the fans not really wanting the deal to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Was that what happened or Madrid just messed up? The sky guy thinks they got cold feet with 2 very good keepers in their ranks and the fans not really wanting the deal to happen. Yeah, they'd hate having a better one in their side for a relatively small fee right enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Man how bad is all this?Navas will be RM's number 1 knowing they don't want him. DDG will be at Man Utd, Man Utd know he does not want to be there, LVG has not picked him this season. God knows what both these players are thinking, will certainly be interesting to see how both fair from now until the end of the year. Navas goes back to being great for Madrid and when he does falter they have Casilla who was the best in the league last year. LvG persists with Romero even when he kills Smalling and blinds Blind while Valdes and DDG model the latest suits from the stand. They both leave for free to CL clubs in the summer as does LvG and our new manager is left with a squad that is mainly Rooney, Toni V and some 13 nobodies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 So none of this is on Real, it's all on United? Interesting, nonsensical view of the situation, really There's obviously two sides but United are the club that wanted a record fee for a keeper for him or they won't sell .. then Ramos as well ... then last minute 'ok, we'll sell for less than that record and earlier reported fee' and then messed that up and now you'll get nothing. DDG probably not particularly happy so may take a few weeks to get his head straight Madrid come out of this ok as they were going to get what they wanted either now, winter or next summer but no record fee and Ramos has a new deal and United look a bit panicing with all this last minute stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Yeah, they'd hate having a better one in their side for a relatively small fee right enough. They will now get him for free in the summer. De Gea is not going to be a decider in their success this season. They get him for free in 11 months and then have both him AND Navas rather than one or the other. Makes sense.....no! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham_aka_stam Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Madrid made their first official bid 11hrs before the window closed... They had months to sort it out. They want the player, they have to make an offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Was that what happened or Madrid just messed up? The sky guy thinks they got cold feet with 2 very good keepers in their ranks and the fans not really wanting the deal to happen. I am sure it'll all come out soon and maybe Madrid sandbagged it, for now, who knows. For what was a straightforward deal a couple of months ago looks a bit rubbish the way it's not-happened and United lose out financially and in terms of 'face' which is what they seemed to be saving by this not being bullied by Madrid It is sky sources though ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 There's obviously two sides but United are the club that wanted a record fee for a keeper for him or they won't sell .. then Ramos as well ... I actually back Woodward and LvG on that bit, they may have ballsed up a bit but I like the grit they showed and eventually they will become better at this negotiating lark. They almost got him for a lot more than the £11m Real were offering all summer till Madrid did some computer foul ups....deliberately or not, no one is sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahno6 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Get him back in the sticks for the Liverpool game please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Champions League tweet re: DDG has been deleted. Curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I don't see an issue with things from DDG's side at the moment. Let him go away on international duty, then get him back, sit him down and say that you know he wanted to leave, and he would have had Real not done whatever it is they did to screw it up. Then tell him that he'll be number 1 if he gets his head down and gives them one last great season, and he can go in the summer if he still feels that way. He'll want to be playing football given the Euros are coming up, so I'd like to think he's a decent enough guy who isn't completely thick. Seems the most sensible course of action, so of course it won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Madrid made their first official bit 11hrs before the window closed...They had months to sort it out. They want the player, they have to make an offer. I don't believe anyone can be so naive that there was no interest until 11 hours ago ... this has all been done via agents and 3rd parties all summer and probably before. If United accepted the price floated around a couple of months back I am sure the deal would have happened This is how deals are done now, especially high profile and it's probably Mendes as the go-between, as usual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 It is sky sources though ... The same source that had called it all through including all the terms of the deal and got it spot on. Yes we ridicule the fella but he was on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Madrid made their first official bit 11hrs before the window closed...They had months to sort it out. They want the player, they have to make an offer. United's fault they didn't bid earlier though /razzler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 The papers are reporting that Valdes has made up with van Gaal after the Facebook change. What are we going to do? Rotate him with DDG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If United accepted the price floated around a couple of months back I am sure the deal would have happened So we should have taken £11m, I would rather he goes on a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Champions League tweet re: DDG has been deleted. Curious. The one thing I thought was funny is that tweet, it said he would be 100% at Man Utd, of course the chances of him going anywhere else are of course zero, he could in theory still move to a club in England..... or indeed Celtic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I actually back Woodward and LvG on that bit, they may have ballsed up a bit but I like the grit they showed and eventually they will become better at this negotiating lark. They almost got him for a lot more than the £11m Real were offering all summer till Madrid did some computer foul ups....deliberately or not, no one is sure. I think the grit was fine up until the last minute panic to make the deal happen. That's where it looks weak as **** They said 11m and you said 36m ... I am sure a deal could have been but you didn't want to blink ... then last night of deadline you go blinking away like mad men! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Madrid made their first official bit 11hrs before the window closed...They had months to sort it out. They want the player, they have to make an offer. This really. Real knew all along what we wanted and only bid right near the end. It wasn't what we were holding out for but it was a good fee plus a replacement player. Couldn't knock that. De Gea will sort himself out and start the Liverpool game or the one after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I think the grit was fine up until the last minute panic to make the deal happen. That's where it looks weak as ****They said 11m and you said 36m ... I am sure a deal could have been but you didn't want to blink ... then last night of deadline you go blinking away like mad men! Because they put a good deal on the table. What's the problem with blinking when you finally get something good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 So we should have taken £11m, I would rather he goes on a free. It's a little something called negotiating. Jeez At that time the club rejected it (obviously) but set their price super high ... telling me there's no middle ground? Of course there is but neither was budging. Fine, DDG stays ... then United blink at the last minute in a game of chicken Be interesting to see what comes out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Because they put a good deal on the table. What's the problem with blinking when you finally get something good? Because he wouldn't be sold for less than a record fee. I think you could have wrung a better deal out of them before 5 to midnight, don't you? No one thought he was ever going for 11m, I doubt Madrid did either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 United's fault they didn't bid earlier though/razzler Yeah, that is what happens with these deals. Execs sitting by the phone waiting for it to ring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 It's a little something called negotiating. JeezAt that time the club rejected it (obviously) but set their price super high ... telling me there's no middle ground? Of course there is but neither was budging. Fine, DDG stays ... then United blink at the last minute in a game of chicken Be interesting to see what comes out But only one club should be negotiating. Alrighty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham_aka_stam Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I don't believe anyone can be so naive that there was no interest until 11 hours ago ... this has all been done via agents and 3rd parties all summer and probably before. If United accepted the price floated around a couple of months back I am sure the deal would have happenedThis is how deals are done now, especially high profile and it's probably Mendes as the go-between, as usual There was interest, but until they make a bid, there's nothing to accept ffs "This is how deals are done" = bollocks, vast majority of clubs receive offers before the final day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 ADM interview... In an interview with French newspaper L’Equipe today he has accused Louis van Gaal of having “no philosophy”, which makes it “difficult to adapt to his system.” “Everyone does what he wants,” Di Maria said. “I started very well with him, and then we had some clashes. “Things did not go well and I was changed position. It is the coach who decided that, and in the end I found myself on the bench." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 There was interest, but until they make a bid, there's nothing to accept ffs "This is how deals are done" = bollocks, vast majority of clubs receive offers before the final day. I am sure there was plenty going on in the background to make this deal happen or sort a price out. It's not like nothing and then a bid comes in. The bid is the last thing and with someone like Mendes involved I reckon everything is agreed and that's why the bid is then 'official'. If you guys all think that was handled well then cool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 ADM interview...In an interview with French newspaper L’Equipe today he has accused Louis van Gaal of having “no philosophy”, which makes it “difficult to adapt to his system.” “Everyone does what he wants,” Di Maria said. “I started very well with him, and then we had some clashes. “Things did not go well and I was changed position. It is the coach who decided that, and in the end I found myself on the bench." Di Maria is a fantastic player as he proved at Madrid and will also show at PSG. LVG is the donkey that plays an awful system that doesn't allow creative players to express themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Close to just putting Razzler on ignore tbh. He doesn't half talk some rubbish. Look to the left and there his name is after a 'strange' post, time and again. Actually glad DDG is staying, although we'll likely get nothing for him now. As long as LVG does the sensible thing and plays him, we're better off with him in the team than anybody else not named Neuer. So then, 5 hours till we all spit our dummy? The transfer window started so brightly with some solid purchases, so I really hope it will end in similar fashion. Squad looks paper thin now, even factoring in youth players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Awww didums, did I say bad things about United Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If I was DDG now, and wanted to go to Real as much as he probably did, I'd be pretty P'ed off at Real, and perhaps asking some questions about how much they really wanted me. They knew 3 months ago what was required, and fecked about for 3 months. Not like they've spent a boatload of cash this summer either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.