Kopite Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 There should be a Kopite thread to discuss my ramblings by the looks of things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Or richardson6 thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Bloody sewing circle, the lot of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 40 - S. Downing has delivered 40 accurate crosses this season, more than any LFC player. Also, more than Messi, Hazard or C. Ronaldo. Tidy Maybe if we had a striker who could finish people wouldn't hate on Downing so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Downing's still ridiculously average. Pretty much exactly the same as I called when we signed him. £20m on him was a joke, just not quite as much of a joke as £16m on Henderson or £35m on Carroll. I wish we could pack Kenny off into a DeLorean and make him redo the past 15 months. GREAT SCOTT! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 i think it's telling that Suarez' heading has been much better than Carroll's this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 That Downing stat is amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 calling ******** on that downing stat tbh. no way he's delivered 40 accurate crosses (how do they even measure this?). he simply doesn't deliver the ball at the right time and when he does manage to get a cross in it's usually too deep. been such a nothing player for us and i had such high hopes on him being the wide player we've been crying out for. the guy has the ability i reckon just doesn't look mentally up to the job, happy to go missing far too much. been some encouraging signs recently but it's too little too late. hope for a more consistent and settled season next year i guess but you don't expect to splash 20m on a ready proven premiership player and reap the rewards 12 months after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 how do they measure it? by the fact that it got to one of our players. wide players that hug the touchline are useless when you have no one in the box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulliner Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 In fairness that's only about one and a bit decent crosses a game - not totally beyond the realms of realism surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 i guess not, but i find it highly unlikely after watching him all season that he's created 40 good chances just from crosses alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Jose Enrique has made 50 successful dribbles this season, 3 more than Cristiano Ronaldo who has made 47. Control. Stats ftw, eventually they'll find a stat for the whole team that beats Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Once a game he puts the ball on to someone's head. Seems reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 how do they measure it? by the fact that it got to one of our players.wide players that hug the touchline are useless when you have no one in the box Does that include crosses that sail over the head of everyone in the box and are picked up by full-backs on the other side of the pitch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I actually don't mind Downing, I think he's got a decent footballing brain, he actually tries, he's still fairly fast and fit and he can put in a decent cross as well as a bit of dribbling. I think he's performed well below what we expected in terms of goals and assists and I think we paid over the odds for him, but he's probably the best left winger we've had for a decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7630252/Carroll-hails-Gerrard Love the user comment at the bottom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Not exactly great praise being the best left winger in a decade when you've had little to no competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Other then Riera we haven't really had a left winger have we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 tbf to downing you have to have some idea and understanding of where your striker is gonna be when you do cross and with suarez always dropping deep i dont think anyone on the planet knows where carroll is ever likely to be as the guy doesnt even know himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Patrik Berger? Was he winger enough for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 was he still here 10 years ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Kewell > Downing when fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Everton 1-0 up against Sunderland in the replay, guessing the majority would prefer to play Everton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 That Downing stat is amazing Particularly amazing as I am sure I heard a stat that he's had the most crosses of any player in the Premier League that haven't reached a player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 tbf to downing you have to have some idea and understanding of where your striker is gonna be when you do cross and with suarez always dropping deep i dont think anyone on the planet knows where carroll is ever likely to be as the guy doesnt even know himself. When Carroll is on the pitch I am pretty sure everyone knows where he'll be when a wide man has the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 When Carroll is on the pitch I am pretty sure everyone knows where he'll be when a wide man has the ball From what I've seen he'll usually be standing in just around the same area as the winger, actually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 He knew where the box was at Newcastle so maybe those coaches need to turn their chalkboards around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 He stands up front on his own, he get's isolated. He drops deep to then get involved to create space and attacks for others, then he isn't in the box for the cross. He drifts to the left wing to act as an outlet, but then theres no one to cross the ball, nor finish the chance if he did cross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Jelavic scored more than Carroll yet? The semi-final is going to be terrifying if they get through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I actually don't mind Downing, I think he's got a decent footballing brain, he actually tries, he's still fairly fast and fit and he can put in a decent cross as well as a bit of dribbling. I think he's performed well below what we expected in terms of goals and assists and I think we paid over the odds for him, but he's probably the best left winger we've had for a decade. Harry Kewell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Jose Enrique has made 50 successful dribbles this season, 3 more than Cristiano Ronaldo who has made 47. Control.Stats ftw, eventually they'll find a stat for the whole team that beats Ronaldo This one I believe. He does like a good dribble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I saw a list of the top dribbles before and SWP was top of it IIRC so read into that what you will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Harry Kewell..... only fit for finals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 How convenient for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 haha 2-0 everton. must admit everton look good, wouldnt mind an all mersey semi tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Kewell > Downing when fit. Illogical when "when fit" never bloody happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Adam out for the rest of the season then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Blessing. 1010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Link ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hopefully the last time we'll ever see him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Harry Kewell..... only fit for finals fit for 20 mins in finals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Going to be a great day at Wembley now that the bitters are through. Didn't think I'd see a derby at Wembley in my life time but I am made up it is happening! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaaaave Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 just because I haven't seen it in here yet, heard some rumors that we were chasing tello who has a 10m release clause. he is still expected to sign a new deal with barcelona though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Would be mightily keen on him, have large doubts he'd come here though, bright future ahead of him from the limited amount I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Link ? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/27/liverpool-charlie-adam-ruled-out - Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulliner Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Not at all disappointed with the news on Adam - I hope Shelvey gets a little go before the end of the season, although I guess Spearing/Gerrard is our first choice midfgield pair now - with perhaps Henderson getting more of a chance in a position that may actually suit him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 The Tello rumour is from a Balague quote on twitter: "Guillem Balague @GuillemBalague Tello monitored by Liverpool. Would cost 10m euros but FCB favourites to renew his contract" so probably just made up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Balague has been pretty spot on with **** out of Spain for the last couple of years though. Can't help but think our chances of landing Tello would be massively higher if Rafa was in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_rm Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Balague has been pretty spot on with **** out of Spain for the last couple of years though.Can't help but think our chances of landing Tello would be massively higher if Rafa was in charge. What Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Difficult to understand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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