oi_oi_ginger_roy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere... That's right. You're not seeing wrong. 1000 years of holidaying in FM15, in just England. I started this on March 4th and it took 58 days of simming to get to 1000 years. And now that it's all over and the data is all compiled, I thought I'd share it with this sub, because why not? So, let us begin. Spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ImEn6r9CW2VcrP-Gm2S6Ymx3QlM5F5umlpXz7x2YQTI/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0 Now showing you the results of the PL, FA Cup and so on in in game screenshots would take far too long, so I compiled a massive spreadsheet which showed how many times each club won, or placed second or third in, each of the major competitions in England, and also the EL and CL. I used a points system to determine which club was the best all time, using the system as follows. PL 1st Place-5 PL 2nd Place-3 PL 3rd Place-1 FA Cup Win-5 FA Cup Runner-Up-2 League Cup Win-4 League Cup Runner-Up-1 Champions League Win-6 Champions League Runner-Up-3 Europa League Win-4 Europa League Runner-Up-1.5 I also documented how many seasons a club played in the Premier Division, though this had no effect on points. Note that I didn't include results that happened before the start date. Since a screenshot history would be long and arduous, here is a brief rundown of the Premier League, 2014-3015. 2000s: The first surprise of the sim, was Derby winning the Premier League in 2021 with Southampton coming in 3rd. They fell pretty quickly, but then a surprisingly dominant Stoke took over, trading titles with Man U and occasionally Newcastle. Coventry also had a dominant spell, winning 6 titles in 7 years. Arsenal and Burnley entered the mix as contenders as well as Nottingham Forest and Blackburn. The century ended with a very dominant Man U. 2100s: This century started with a very powerful Stoke, as they won 7 titles in a row as well as 14 titles in 17 years. Later, Burnley became dominant as the PL turned into a power struggle between the 2 teams. Newcomers West Brom and Barnsley also stole some titles, especially Barnsley, who won quite a few in the last couple decades. 2200s: With Stoke on the decline, a newcomer fills their spot: Sheffield United. They traded titles mostly with Man U, though later with Barnsley and Southend United. This century had no real dominance, as teams struggled to string titles together. Though teams such as MK Dons, Hull, and Plymouth came and went, the five big players were Sheffield, Arsenal, Barnsley, Southend, and Burnley. 2300s: Southend replaced Sheffield's position of dominance, winning many titles early on. Cambridge, Chesterfield, and Hull were also contenders. 7 titles in a row marked an all-time high for Southend, as they hammered their opposition for the rest of the century, with occasional wins from Brighton, Barnsley, and Man City. 2400s: This century brought about Sunderland into relevance, who battled furiously with Southend, though small bouts of prowess from Sheffield, Man City, and Cambridge prodded them into relevance. Burnley also had a very good mid-century. Bristol Rovers, Reading, and Arsenal were also prominent late century. 2500s: This century started with battles between QPR, Burnley, and Southend for the title. Later, Plymouth, Tottenham, and Exeter were quite good, and even Barnsley was back. Sheffield tore up the PL mid-century including 8 titles in 9 seasons. A resurgent Arsenal ended the century. 2600s: This century followed similar to previous ones. Sheffield, Barnsley, Burnley, Southend, and Arsenal battled for the title, with occasional visits from other clubs into the top spot, including Sheffield Wednesday, Preston, Rotherham, and Plymouth. Later in the century, a dominant Crystal Palace won title after title, which amounted to 15 wins in 26 years. 2700s: Burnley started this century off with a bang, winning 7 in a row right off the bat. Burnley dominance continued with challenges from Plymouth, Liverpool, and Norwich. However Sheffield Utd. took their place with 10 titles in 11 seasons and ended the century in that way, along with wins from Brentford and Preston. 2800s: The 2800s, or the dark years as I call them, started with Sheffield Utd. and Rotherham being the only 2 title winners for 30 years straight. And who stopped them? Burnley, with 10 successive titles. Arsenal finally broke the bore spell, which brought in new face Bromley, as well as Maidstone and QPR. 2900s and 3000s: The last century starts with a feud between Bromley and Burnley, which is broken up by Rotherham. This battle continues through until a resurgent Hull gets in the way. This opens the door for Brentford, Ipswich, and Man City to become regular title contenders. The 3000s turn into a struggle between Brentford, Ipswich, and Nottingham Forest with the very last title ever going to Hull City. Original thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/3fioa1/the_millenial_sim_is_here_1000_years_of_simming/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Check out the attendance records. Not really sure where Celtic are building their 579199 seater stadium... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Check out the attendance records. Not really sure where Celtic are building their 579199 seater stadium, or how they can have an average attendance that is greater than the record attendance... But can Burnley do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke? Seriously though, do you have a screenshot from the year 3000? If so I was just wondering if people live underwater, is my great great great granddaughter is pretty fine and has the song 'Year 3000' by Busted gone multi platinum? They lied to you Mark. Sorry to break it to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 But can Burnley do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke? Seriously though, do you have a screenshot from the year 3000? If so I was just wondering if people live underwater, is my great great great granddaughter is pretty fine and has the song 'Year 3000' by Busted gone multi platinum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJ Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Any chance you could show a list of Champions League and Europa League winners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oi_oi_ginger_roy Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 Any chance you could show a list of Champions League and Europa League winners? I'm just the middle man i'm afraid Have a look at the original thread on reddit and you can maybe ask the person who did it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Damn you Busted!! You lied to me! Trying to get the filedropper site to load up so I c an waste my afternoon looking through it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'm confused as to how Celtic managed to get an average attendance of 576199 without getting a single attendance above Red Bull Salzburg's single game record of 523945 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBONGO Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 England has won the World Cup 41 times, which is roughly twice the number of wins by the next best teams. Is this because of leagues loaded etc., or because England is somehow overpowered at a fundamental level in the database, i.e. money, standard youth quality etc.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 England has won the World Cup 41 times, which is roughly twice the number of wins by the next best teams.Is this because of leagues loaded etc., or because England is somehow overpowered at a fundamental level in the database, i.e. money, standard youth quality etc.? Leagues loaded. There is always a bias towards those whose leagues are loaded - more players available for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Doctor Benjy got his hands on the save and uploaded this... [video=youtube;_rWxg3CEHcY] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maw74 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Check out the attendance records. Not really sure where Celtic are building their 579199 seater stadium... That's average attendance so the stadium is probably a bit more than that, strange that the highest attendance is lower though. Anyway those crowds Imagine policing them matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I've downloaded the save and put it in the game files but when I try and load up this save it says "The save game could not be loaded" - Any idea what I'm doing wrong anyone? Thanks, RTC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpillBlood Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Reading about Rotherham was . Even if it does take that many years . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domus Clamantium Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Had big trouble loading this. Downloaded a 888mb file but it doesn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 more interesting is that Chelsea only won it once and then more interesting again that they only got 2nd twice, and 3rd once (so 4 years of relevance after 1000 years) also 982 of 1000 league years for Burnley, shiiiii Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversawh7 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 For once, this is not a thread of mine. This does tempt me to dig out a few of my one from the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalthebest Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 But can Burnley do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke? Seriously though, do you have a screenshot from the year 3000? If so I was just wondering if people live underwater, and do triple breasted women swim around town TOTALY NAKED Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domus Clamantium Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The guy added another link that works on Mediafire, here http://www.mediafire.com/download/x923iwlxzc9q7ag/England+Sim.fm File is 1.03gb It works. Very cool. Found that you can add leagues that aren't in the original game as well, guy must've put some extra leagues on. Max players 428k, 95k more than original game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenS66 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 This thread reminds me that all-time statistics for the competitions (like games played and goals) are really missing in FM. How great would it be to see that great goalscorer come along to break that EPL record of 369 goals by John Smith that had been standing for nearly 478 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 This thread reminds me that all-time statistics for the competitions (like games played and goals) are really missing in FM. How great would it be to see that great goalscorer come along to break that EPL record of 369 goals by John Smith that had been standing for nearly 478 years? oh gosh yes maybe even a top 10 list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdanbartlett Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 This is AMAZING, properly fascinating stuff. Loved the little video too. I think it might be fun to start a save with this but then on the flip side it would be very weird I imagine! I will have a look and poke around with a 3rd party editor to see who has the biggest max attendance etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdanbartlett Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Oh and is there still a bug when you get to 1BN in the bank, that it reverts it to minus 1BN? If so maybe that explains why UTD are so low? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdanbartlett Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Downloaded the save, some weird findings: Ipswich - haven't signed a single player for years, all their players seem to be youth products? They are a top prem side though. Actually this seems true for many teams.... Man UTD - their ground is 8910 all seater, but built in 1909....It's still old Trafford but must have been heavily reduced in size, odd? Celtic - the stadium is 74,000, and still celtic park, so no idea how they hit 540,000!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Good to see that we (Ipswich) actually make it back to the Premier League before the sun goes supernova, I've had my doubts about that for a while now I'm actually tempted to do something similar myself now. Not to reach a particular target but to see how things develop over a long period of time like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theking1 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Downloaded the save, some weird findings:Ipswich - haven't signed a single player for years, all their players seem to be youth products? They are a top prem side though. Actually this seems true for many teams.... Man UTD - their ground is 8910 all seater, but built in 1909....It's still old Trafford but must have been heavily reduced in size, odd? Celtic - the stadium is 74,000, and still celtic park, so no idea how they hit 540,000!? My guess is data has become corrupted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just-Wool Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'd like to say Burnley's domination is all because I managed them to Europe for the first time and they built off that. A bit of vicarious bragging never hurt anyone, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelaidean Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I like how the MLS All-Stars have the fifth-most season ticket holders in the world One for the balance team I think! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 My guess is data has become corrupted I guess you'd be correct there considering Juventus's continental competition is the u20 Gold Cup (which is for national u20 teams in North America) also interesting to note is that Celtic have a 100% strike record in Scotland, the last title winner was Rangers (their 2011 IRL win) which is some crazy dominance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversawh7 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I was curious to see how far I ended up going in past versions. 3340 in England in FM12 and 6580 in Hong Kong in FM11 apparently: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy316 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 What happened 1000yrs of World Cups and European Cups! Anyone post a screenshot of those, England had 1000yrs to get the job done i would like to think they did it at least 1 time in the last 1000yrs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillsminnow Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I did a live stream of this save on twitch. Venezuela were very noticeable when it came to winning world cups and next to no clubs had a manager or staff members. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiiing Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 2100s: This century started with a very powerful Stoke, as they won 7 titles in a row as well as 14 titles in 17 years. Later, Burnley became dominant as the PL turned into a power struggle between the 2 teams. Newcomers West Brom and Barnsley also stole some titles, especially Barnsley, who won quite a few in the last couple decades. To be honest I've been thinking for a while that it might take that long (in real life, I mean)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 What happened 1000yrs of World Cups and European Cups! Anyone post a screenshot of those, England had 1000yrs to get the job done i would like to think they did it at least 1 time in the last 1000yrs Of course they did. It's FM. They'll have won loads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Depressing how few goals are scored. In a thousand years no team really thrashed another, and no player got more than 5 goals in a game. Hardly likely. Interesting experiment, just a shame the data corruption renders it all a bit unusable for SI to learn from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I've started a thread on FMCU for my own long holiday save, which will go nowhere near as long or as fast (as I have a very array of nations loaded for a fuller simulation experience) but should be pretty interesting. I've just done my first 10-year update today though I don't advise reading if you're a Tranmere fan... http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/431129-FM11-Deltablue-s-FM-TARDIS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsUnitedFan2 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I guess you'd be correct thereconsidering Juventus's continental competition is the u20 Gold Cup (which is for national u20 teams in North America) also interesting to note is that Celtic have a 100% strike record in Scotland, the last title winner was Rangers (their 2011 IRL win) which is some crazy dominance I've just looked at the Scottish Cup & League Cup - Celtic have done the domestic treble 1000 years running! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakarooney Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Great to see my home town team Burnley doing amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evertonmarc Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 So what you are telling me, is Everton still haven't won anything? Kenwright out!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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