Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 QUEUES to see the Queen lying in state could last 12 hours and stretch for three miles. The Whitehall chiefs in charge of logistics for the historic five-night vigil had originally estimated that 40,000 people a day would turn up. However, they now believe the number will be far, far higher and that many people will have to queue through the night. They estimate numbers could far exceed the 200,000 who paid their respects to the Queen Mother in 2002. And they say it could be closer to the million mourners who filed past Pope John Paul II when he lay in state in Rome in 2005. The route will be lined with extra portable loos and water stations to ensure the public are catered for on their way towards central London’s Westminster Hall from Wednesday. Mourners will pass through airport-style security and only small bags are permitted. Medics at nearby Guy’s and St Thomas’s hospitals are on standby in case those in the queue fall ill. Planners, who have been following the Operation London Bridge protocol, have identified a park next to Tower Bridge as the starting point for the queue. It will then move the length of the South Bank of the Thames, passing London Bridge, Blackfriars Bridge, the Globe Theatre, Tate Modern and the London Eye. Anyone with luggage will have to stop on the route and leave it in a park by Lambeth Palace before rejoining the queue. Mourners will cross Lambeth Bridge before turning back to enter Westminster Hall. That will be open 24 hours a day for mourners to pass by the late monarch’s coffin, with insiders revealing people may have to wait up to 12 hours from start to finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Abdication aside, the crowning of a new monarch will always occur when there is the death of the old one - to suggest no one should be able to protest against the beginning of a new reign because it is somehow be inconsiderate to the mourning of the last one is a spurious argument at best 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 46 minutes ago, Rafalution said: if we got rid of the monarchy the crown estate would be owned by the state, not the windsors, so that's really neither here nor there Almost there: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: That will be open 24 hours a day for mourners to pass by the late monarch’s coffin, with insiders revealing people may have to wait up to 12 hours from start to finish. They queued for more than 20 hours for the Queen Mother, if they are expecting five times as many people this time, then it'll be a dam sight longer than 12 hours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: Today is not the day of the funeral, though? You know how mental these royalists are, the next month is going to count as the funeral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Looking at the massive crowds in Edinburgh it seems about half the English there turned out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Rafalution said: if we got rid of the monarchy the crown estate would be owned by the state, not the windsors, so that's really neither here nor there You're forgetting the Tories would sell half of it off to their mates in Year 1, rather than protecting the revenue stream in future years. At least the monarchy can be trusted with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Queen lookalike who looks nothing like the Queen now getting publicity because her appearances will now be tributes. In other news I'd like to let everyone know that I'm now working as a Cristiano Ronaldo lookalike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ackter said: Queen lookalike who looks nothing like the Queen now getting publicity because her appearances will now be tributes. In other news I'd like to let everyone know that I'm now working as a Cristiano Ronaldo lookalike. Another fruit-loop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ackter said: In other news I'd like to let everyone know that I'm now working as a Cristiano Ronaldo lookalike. So you pay people off instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Barry Cartman said: So you pay people off instead? I've bought some some kits from @Ronaldo Beckham and some hair gel. I'm available for bar mitzvahs, children's birthday parties and corporate events. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Arsenal v PSV postponed. So much for the midweek games being able to happen as normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: Today is not the day of the funeral, though? We are in a period of mourning as a Country. It's not the right time, Sure they should present a better case in the future but travelling all the way there with crappy slogans like "Not my King" "**** the monarchy" is going to antagonise people during this time, It doesn't mean they should be arrested for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rob1981 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Arsenal v PSV postponed. So much for the midweek games being able to happen as normal. Surely makes sense just to reverse the group stage fixtures and play in Eindhoven this week. Literally no space to find a free midweek slot before the WC otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Arsenal v PSV postponed. So much for the midweek games being able to happen as normal. Yeah just seen on PSV twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Arsenal v PSV postponed. So much for the midweek games being able to happen as normal. If that’s a policing issue (which I assume it is) because of the numbers of Dutch fans then Saturday and Sundays games in London are done too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, Christmas said: Looking at the massive crowds in Edinburgh it seems about half the English there turned out I think you will be disappointed to find this isn't the case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, SouthCoastRed said: If that’s a policing issue (which I assume it is) because of the numbers of Dutch fans then Saturday and Sundays games in London are done too Chelsea's match is going ahead i believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Would be crazy holding london fixtures and events at the moment. There's only like 3 police officers in London and they're struggling as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Millwall vs QPR could be an issue as well on Wednesday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, oche balboa said: We are in a period of mourning as a Country. It's not the right time, Sure they should present a better case in the future but travelling all the way there with crappy slogans like "Not my King" "**** the monarchy" is going to antagonise people during this time, It doesn't mean they should be arrested for that. You could argue that it's actually a great time to peacefully protest. If that right starts being taken away, we are in very dangerous waters. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I would say speaking out against the accession of a monarch on the day of the accession of a monarch is entirely the right time to do it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: You could argue that it's actually a great time to peacefully protest. If that right starts being taken away, we are in very dangerous waters. Is it peaceful? its an antagonistic measure currently Edited September 12, 2022 by oche balboa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, oche balboa said: I think you will be disappointed to find this isn't the case What part of my post had a case for it to not be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 4 hours ago, oche balboa said: Aren't most leaders going to attend this Putin, XI Jinping, Kim Jong-un and Ali Khamenei are all joining the Saudi and State monarchs to enjoy an occasion reserved for an unelected Head of State to show them how democracy works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sons FC Posted September 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, oche balboa said: Millwall vs QPR could be an issue as well on Wednesday Shouldn't that be Millwall vs KPR? 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Surely makes sense just to reverse the group stage fixtures and play in Eindhoven this week. Literally no space to find a free midweek slot before the WC otherwise. We will move the Man City midweek game, frees up a mid week slot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Sons FC said: Shouldn't that be Millwall vs KPR? I know I shouldn’t encourage the daft nearly as old bat, but that did make me snigger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: You could argue that it's actually a great time to peacefully protest. If that right starts being taken away, we are in very dangerous waters. Not convinced these count as peaceful protests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdcuk Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, oche balboa said: We are in a period of mourning as a Country. It's not the right time, Sure they should present a better case in the future but travelling all the way there with crappy slogans like "Not my King" "**** the monarchy" is going to antagonise people during this time, It doesn't mean they should be arrested for that. So when is the right time? Tomorrow, the day after, next week, next month? When! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Though imagine if theyd chained themselves to all the gates so the Queen's body couldnt actually get in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 hours ago, themadsheep2001 said: Yep, this is the bit we need to know about. If he's then kicked off at the people around He was most probably demonstrating his right to freedom of speech by shouting at those telling him to ''shut up you tit'', this then escalated in him being removed for his own safety and the police mentioning a section 5. And letting him go. If some football fans started giving verbals within the laws towards home fans who were growing in number, then the Police would stick them in the van move out of the area to the nearest train station and tell them to go home or behave. This far easier than going through the rigmarole of paperwork and solicitors when they've got better things to do and at the same time they've saved the NHS a few quid in stitching him up. Of course, letting it go and not making a big deal out of it wouldn't see his twitter trend improve. He might not realise behind his own self-importance, but they've done him a favour 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, Sons FC said: Shouldn't that be Millwall vs KPR? I laughed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Garethjohn79 said: He was most probably demonstrating his right to freedom of speech by shouting at those telling him to ''shut up you tit'', this then escalated in him being removed for his own safety and the police mentioning a section 5. And letting him go. If some football fans started giving verbals within the laws towards home fans who were growing in number, then the Police would stick them in the van move out of the area to the nearest train station and tell them to go home or behave. This far easier than going through the rigmarole of paperwork and solicitors when they've got better things to do and at the same time they've saved the NHS a few quid in stitching him up. Of course, letting it go and not making a big deal out of it wouldn't see his twitter trend improve. He might not realise behind his own self-importance, but they've done him a favour I'm definitely not one to defend the police, for so, so many reasons. But I do wonder how much of the bold might have occurred. There was similar in Edinburgh, and the crowd were quite polite in replying, in the end that small group of protestors actually calmed down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, bdcuk said: So when is the right time? Tomorrow, the day after, next week, next month? When! Let's have the queen buried first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 They didn't 'mention' a section 5 they actually arrested him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 hours ago, sc91 said: It's not even like there wouldn't be fans of away clubs that are from or live in London, and also the same for London clubs, friend of mine has a season ticket at Spurs and travels from Manchester for each game, for example. Avanti have been doing their best to put off fans or anyone travelling on weekends along its route by not selling train tickets until four days prior to travel, this is during a normal weekend, God knows how they're gonna handle this. No wonder the sent her body by plane, even if you get all the privilege and priority of your train, they still didn't have enough faith that the British Rail Network wouldn't balls it up Infront of all those cameras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 We are not a serious country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 That's funny i love the British public Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, oche balboa said: That's funny i love the British public It's not funny though, is it? Leaving food in a park to rot is hardly "funny". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Ackter said: Though imagine if theyd chained themselves to all the gates so the Queen's body couldnt actually get in. Or thrown themselves themselves in front of the Kings Horse, as Emily Davison did. (just playing devils advocate) Edited September 12, 2022 by Big Geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
profii Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 it's pretty difficult to protest in any fashion without antagonising someone even if you were just there with perfectly inoffensive placards and were entirely peaceful, someone is going to get upset - mainly because you dont share their views. That's just how people are, it would be boring if we were all the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Ackter said: In other news I'd like to let everyone know that I'm now working as a Cristiano Ronaldo lookalike. Do you do modelling for sculptures? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Confused Clarity said: It's not funny though, is it? Leaving food in a park to rot is hardly "funny". Meh, its funny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I’ll be dammed in hell forever, but it would be funny if they dropped the coffin 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, profii said: it's pretty difficult to protest in any fashion without antagonising someone even if you were just there with perfectly inoffensive placards and were entirely peaceful, someone is going to get upset - mainly because you dont share their views. That's just how people are, it would be boring if we were all the same 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Whippy Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: I’ll be dammed in hell forever, but it would be funny if they dropped the coffin I know I'd find that hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Anyone see that protestor just get dragged away then? Not sure what he was shouting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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