jagitach Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Le 06/11/2018 à 00:54, Snorks a dit : A real dumb question here, but as I get the full-fat game for my birthday every year in December I can't buy it beforehand iTunes Mobdro TutuApp I assume the 'Public Beta' is only for those who already bought the full game? Or am I misreading the 'Public' bit and getting excited unnecessarily ? (I would think it is the latter, this was the week I was going to download the Demo) Could I suggest that you also consider providing at least a limited changelist of any commonly reported issues that have been fixed/adjusted/tweaked, so people could more easily try and check whether they're working as intended or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted December 22, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted December 22, 2018 We've released a changelist every time we've released an update so far in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleventozturk Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Hi Neil, this thread has been dead for a while now. Are you planning to release a new test version any time soon? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanMilly Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 hours ago, bleventozturk said: Hi Neil, this thread has been dead for a while now. Are you planning to release a new test version any time soon? Thanks. It's been dead because it's been the Christmas week. I imagine they're all having time off to be with their families, and will be back in work after the new year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted December 31, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted December 31, 2018 Yeah unlikely to be any updates until we’re into the New Year. Watch this space as always! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gers_fan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 On 31/12/2018 at 09:48, Neil Brock said: Yeah unlikely to be any updates until we’re into the New Year. Watch this space as always! Hi Neil, Any clue to when the update will likely be released? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 04/01/2019 at 19:49, the_gers_fan said: Hi Neil, Any clue to when the update will likely be released? Would love to know too. I believe some staff are still on holidays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright 747 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 The longer they leave it the better IMO as it gives them longer for more things to be fixed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonko Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 On January 7, 2019 at 09:45, Tony Wright 747 said: The longer they leave it the better IMO as it gives them longer for more things to be fixed Or it may mean that some things are not fixable. At least not for this edition, maybe fixable in the next one. Like it took awhile for the HB role to work properly in flat back 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleventozturk Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Still nothing here? Is there some testing going on in house at least before the latest ME is released here for public testing, or is there any intention/possibility to call 19.2.1 the final version for FM 19? I really hope not, because all it needs is some minor tweak on the known issues to make it the best ME up to date. It is already a very good ME, but IMO without tweaking the current issues it will be borderline broken. You watch 2-3 matches, it looks just great. I had a blast watching my first 5-10 matches with the latest ME. However, when you watch 50, it gets boring because majority of goals are the same. My excitement completely died after playing (and enjoying) 1 season, because it became so predictable. Most goals (also AI vs. AI) look the same, regardless of quality of players. If at least the AI can be taught to step up to stop those wide open long shots from just outside the box, that will not only keep the amount of goals from long shots at a more reasonable number, but probably provide the midfielder with an option to play a pass to the now slightly less marked striker. Personally I expect at least an attempt to improve the current ME in that direction, before moving on to FM 20. Keeping fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdbayly Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 hours ago, bleventozturk said: provide the midfielder with an option to play a pass to the now slightly less marked striker. This is absolutely key and would improve goal variety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samelders86 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 You guys keep talking about small ME tweaks while the Dutch play-offs system is still completely broken and the youth teams of Ajax and PSV are winning a promotion to the premier division😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skam Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 12/01/2019 at 16:23, samelders86 said: You guys keep talking about small ME tweaks while the Dutch play-offs system is still completely broken and the youth teams of Ajax and PSV are winning a promotion to the premier division😂😂 With all due respect, in my FC Eindhoven save everything was correct. I won promotion in the first season through playoffs and neither Ajax nor PSV jouth team (or any other) qualified for participation in the playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 В 12.01.2019 в 18:23, samelders86 сказал: You guys keep talking about small ME tweaks while the Dutch play-offs system is still completely broken and the youth teams of Ajax and PSV are winning a promotion to the premier division😂😂 1 час назад, skam сказал: With all due respect, in my FC Eindhoven save everything was correct. I won promotion in the first season through playoffs and neither Ajax nor PSV jouth team (or any other) qualified for participation in the playoffs. Looks like 'broken' version is old db save only... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesD Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 12/01/2019 at 16:23, samelders86 said: You guys keep talking about small ME tweaks while the Dutch play-offs system is still completely broken and the youth teams of Ajax and PSV are winning a promotion to the premier division😂😂 I don't recognise this issue. Only oddity is that amateur teams seem to be able to win promotion to the second league. So now I'm getting teams like Rijnburgse Boys in the second league lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesD Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 31/12/2018 at 10:48, Neil Brock said: Yeah unlikely to be any updates until we’re into the New Year. Watch this space as always! Any news yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skam Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Novem9 said: Looks like 'broken' version is old db save only... Dunno. If by "old db" you mean the very first one, then I confess that I play this save from the beta, so I doubt there is any older db... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 15, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 12/01/2019 at 15:23, samelders86 said: You guys keep talking about small ME tweaks while the Dutch play-offs system is still completely broken and the youth teams of Ajax and PSV are winning a promotion to the premier division😂😂 Yeah only in a very specific set of circumstances can this happen so it's actually fairly rare. It's something we're aware of and are investigating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali184 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 https://steamdb.info/app/872790/depots/ you can all see here that they are testing things everyday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 15, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Vali184 said: https://steamdb.info/app/872790/depots/ you can all see here that they are testing things everyday. Yeah we're always working on the game - it's just making sure it's in a position to be released, even for those who are testing. Last thing we'd want to do is put something unstable out on the public beta and affect people's saves in a negative way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller1980 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 17 hours ago, Neil Brock said: Yeah we're always working on the game - it's just making sure it's in a position to be released, even for those who are testing. Last thing we'd want to do is put something unstable out on the public beta and affect people's saves in a negative way. Cheeky question... Any ME tweaks in these updates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haffaz77 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 vor 4 Stunden schrieb Weller1980: Cheeky question... Any ME tweaks in these updates? Why did i see that Question coming ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 16, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 16, 2019 There are tweaks across all areas of the game, but not everything which is 'tested' is guaranteed to be released, even to a public or private beta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller1980 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, haffaz77 said: Why did i see that Question coming ? Well you don’t ask you don’t get. I don’t see any harm in asking a question everyone is thinking. Communication and discussion is normally conducive to a good relationship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdbayly Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, Weller1980 said: Well you don’t ask you don’t get. I don’t see any harm in asking a question everyone is thinking. Communication and discussion is normally conducive to a good relationship. You’ll get it when it’s ready whether you ask or not though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller1980 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, rdbayly said: You’ll get it when it’s ready whether you ask or not though? The time frame isn’t a problem, I can wait, infact I don’t mind if I have to wait until fm20 is released. And I agree with you it’s ready when it’s ready, however not knowing what’s being worked on and a very rough delivery date is a little frustrating. Is it worth the wait... or should I just get on and revert back to FM18. Will I have to wait 1 to 2 months or 10 months. I know SI are trying their best and don’t want to disappoint fans with false promises therefore it’s sometimes difficult to be forthcoming with info, but some form of communication would be greatly appreciated by many fans. For me persoanally and I hate saying this if FM19 doesn’t receive significant ME improvements in the final patch I won’t be playing fm19 ever again, I’ll simply either play other games or revert back to FM18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 To be fair we know the last update is released at the beginning of March. The question is whether there will be a public beta available to test the upcoming update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 17, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 hours ago, andu1 said: To be fair we know the last update is released at the beginning of March. The question is whether there will be a public beta available to test the upcoming update. The plan is to update the public beta at some point, we just don't currently have a definitive schedule of when we'll be able to do so. Hopefully it'll be relatively soon as the sooner we have more eyes looking at things the better it is for everyone. But as said above, it's a process we have to be careful with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleventozturk Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Neil Brock said: The plan is to update the public beta at some point, we just don't currently have a definitive schedule of when we'll be able to do so. Hopefully it'll be relatively soon as the sooner we have more eyes looking at things the better it is for everyone. But as said above, it's a process we have to be careful with. It is great to get a response from you about the progress. Much appreciated. As a customer that's all I want to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidelitywars Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Neil Brock said: The plan is to update the public beta at some point, we just don't currently have a definitive schedule of when we'll be able to do so. Hopefully it'll be relatively soon as the sooner we have more eyes looking at things the better it is for everyone. But as said above, it's a process we have to be careful with. Will any public beta release include winter database updates or is the purpose of the beta purely for testing coding updates? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 17, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, fidelitywars said: Will any public beta release include winter database updates or is the purpose of the beta purely for testing coding updates? Thanks! Hopefully we'll be able to, again it's dependent on a number of different factors and a bit too early to say for certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidelitywars Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, Neil Brock said: Hopefully we'll be able to, again it's dependent on a number of different factors and a bit too early to say for certain. Great! Would be a nice bonus if possible. Thanks for the prompt response! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurs08 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 17/01/2019 at 16:28, Neil Brock said: Hopefully we'll be able to, again it's dependent on a number of different factors and a bit too early to say for certain. Hey, no worries if it's something you can't talk about but I was wondering if there was consideration of the new "Europa League 2" tournament being included either in the next patch or beta update, or whether that's something which will be left for future releases? I was thinking of starting a save with a team from one of Europe's smallest leagues but this is something that would convince me to wait if it's in the pipeline. Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 21, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 21, 2019 Minor update incoming for the Public Beta version. Whilst we'd like to have included more (and are certainly working on more) at this stage we're only able to include the following: 19.2.2 Changelist for Public Beta - Fixed issue whereby game could have stability issues in hotseat/multiple user manager saves - Addressed problem related to minimum wages in French leagues being too high (requires new save) We will look to update again at some point and potentially include match engine changes, but as said above we'd only do so if we feel like the changes are an improvement on what we have now. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7day Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Running slow for me since the update. Stuttering even in 2d. Not had any performance issues prior to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 21, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, g7day said: Running slow for me since the update. Stuttering even in 2d. Not had any performance issues prior to this. Matches or the entire game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7day Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Stopped after that one game so tough to say regarding processing between matches. Reckon it's the whole game though. Just leaving it on the start screen (before loading a game) slows my whole computer, even if I close every other application. Again not something I've seen before in FM19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 21, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, g7day said: Stopped after that one game so tough to say regarding processing between matches. Reckon it's the whole game though. Just leaving it on the start screen (before loading a game) slows my whole computer, even if I close every other application. Again not something I've seen before in FM19. Sometimes after an update anti-virus programs can interfere with the installation - we'd suggest reading and following everything here to see if it helps - https://community.sigames.com/faq/football-manager-2019/183_technical-support/186_pc/the-game-appears-slow-when-i’m-clicking-between-screens-r691/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7day Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Neil Brock said: Sometimes after an update anti-virus programs can interfere with the installation - we'd suggest reading and following everything here to see if it helps - https://community.sigames.com/faq/football-manager-2019/183_technical-support/186_pc/the-game-appears-slow-when-i’m-clicking-between-screens-r691/ No dice unfortunately. I'm on a Mac, if that makes a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 22, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 22, 2019 12 hours ago, g7day said: No dice unfortunately. I'm on a Mac, if that makes a difference. Odd that it would happen on a Mac. Have you tried deleting your cache and preferences then reverifying the game files? Details below: Cache and Preferences - https://community.sigames.com/faq/football-manager-2019/180_how-to/182_mac/how-to-delete-my-preferences-andor-caches-folder-r640/ Reverify Files - https://community.sigames.com/faq/football-manager-2019/180_how-to/182_mac/how-to-verify-the-integrity-of-the-games-files-r624/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 hace 19 horas, g7day dijo: Stopped after that one game so tough to say regarding processing between matches. Reckon it's the whole game though. Just leaving it on the start screen (before loading a game) slows my whole computer, even if I close every other application. Again not something I've seen before in FM19. For me in MacBook Pro I have a huge issue with the starting screen (caused by the 3D avatar I guess unless SI are mining moneros while in that screen ;P) and that just after a few seconds make my ventilator to run at full speed and if I'm on battery, it dies so fast. Hope there was a way to disable the avatar as anyway I don't like it at all, prefer the old static picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceefax the cat Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Hmm my post got deleted. Nice Anyway I'm getting the stuttering during matches too, for the first time. Seems I have actually downloaded a downdate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehFC Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 50 minutes ago, ceefax the cat said: Hmm my post got deleted. Nice Anyway I'm getting the stuttering during matches too, for the first time. Seems I have actually downloaded a downdate! Reported bug back in November but my post was deleted too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Given all the furore on this thread earlier, if your post isn't constructive it will almost certainly get removed. We've been saying this for a while and people haven't been listening so that's the steps we're having to date to keep this thread useful for Neil and Co to post in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehFC Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, themadsheep2001 said: Given all the furore on this thread earlier, if your post isn't constructive it will almost certainly get removed. We've been saying this for a while and people haven't been listening so that's the steps we're having to date to keep this thread useful for Neil and Co to post in I posted a bug issue back in november in the bugs part of the forum but it was deleted for no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 hours ago, StevehFC said: I posted a bug issue back in november in the bugs part of the forum but it was deleted for no reason. Follow the steps in the bugs forum. There are pinned topics in the ME section detailing exactly how to report a bug. That's how you can make sure you supply what is required to investigate a possible bug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 23, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 23, 2019 10 hours ago, StevehFC said: I posted a bug issue back in november in the bugs part of the forum but it was deleted for no reason. The post you had hidden was you asking a question in the bugs forum "Anyone else getting far too many corners in their game". This isn't a suitable place to ask these kinds of questions - if you feel there's an issue you need evidence, pkms and ideally saves showing the issue. Most statistics in game (like corners, penalties, shots on target etc) we track across the game and run comprehensive tests to make sure things are as they should be. At the point you raised that question, in game corners were averaging around 9.7 per match in the English top flight, which was actually lower than the last five top flight seasons (10.3, 10.4, 10.8, 10.7, 10.8). It's something we've since worked on to bring it up to a more realistic level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehFC Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 13 hours ago, Neil Brock said: The post you had hidden was you asking a question in the bugs forum "Anyone else getting far too many corners in their game". This isn't a suitable place to ask these kinds of questions - if you feel there's an issue you need evidence, pkms and ideally saves showing the issue. Most statistics in game (like corners, penalties, shots on target etc) we track across the game and run comprehensive tests to make sure things are as they should be. At the point you raised that question, in game corners were averaging around 9.7 per match in the English top flight, which was actually lower than the last five top flight seasons (10.3, 10.4, 10.8, 10.7, 10.8). It's something we've since worked on to bring it up to a more realistic level. Basically every other poster has to upload evidence otherwise their threads and posts will be deleted. You lot really don't like any negative comments about the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanMilly Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, StevehFC said: Basically every other poster has to upload evidence otherwise their threads and posts will be deleted. You lot really don't like any negative comments about the game. There are plenty of negative comments about the game all over the forum, so they obviously have no issue with people posting them. It's entirely legitimate to want to keep the bug forum for people posting bugs with saves/information on what happened, to allow them to check to see what is causing the bug, not for people asking if anyone else thinks there are too many corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 hours ago, StevehFC said: Basically every other poster has to upload evidence otherwise their threads and posts will be deleted. You lot really don't like any negative comments about the game. That's what the bugs forum is for though. Reporting actual bugs or even suspected bugs - but providing evidence so that the testers can look under the hood at the issue. If you just want to provide feedback - there's a feedback thread for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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