headshotbg Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Mane injured now, hopefully it stops the "news" a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 LvG getting a pass on Pedro error I see. Ed to blame this time weird since van gaal himself said he didn't want him in the end and that the money wasn't an issue because they knew the clause all along. the fans are already booing his style of play so he better sign someone with a bit of pace and directness otherwise it'll only get worse. not replacing rooney will probably cost him his job anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I guess the good thing about our past 2 managers is expectations will be fairly re-adjusted by our next appointment and we won't get too much baying for blood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm not sure if Pedro turned us down or not. I'm pretty sure that if we really wanted him we could have paid the release clause and got him in july. When Chelsea came knocking then it is a no brainer for the player since the choice to play for either LVG or Mourinho. There really is no comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 How can that be true? He's not had more than one shot on target in a game in 17 years?? He's scored more than 1 goal in games so that would be 2 shots on target. I am missing a zinger here? (possible) This has actually made my day in a massive way, thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I can't wait to see which one is benched for Young. The other will be benched for Valencia and the circle is complete.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Why are players like Pedro/Otamendi not good enough for us/not what we need, yet are perfectly fine for the 2 teams going for the title? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Why are players like Pedro/Otamendi not good enough for us/not what we need, yet are perfectly fine for the 2 teams going for the title? LVG is the reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Why are players like Pedro/Otamendi not good enough for us/not what we need, yet are perfectly fine for the 2 teams going for the title? Can't wait to see the quality youngsters we've got coming thro...oh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 We will likely loan Januzaj, Jesse and Pereira too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 This has actually made my day in a massive way, thanks You're welcome I got lost in all your Rooney negativity in here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Why are players like Pedro/Otamendi not good enough for us/not what we need, yet are perfectly fine for the 2 teams going for the title? Who said they weren't good enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 LvG innit They move about too much, he likes those standy still type players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 There's a bright side, 3 clean sheets in a row. David De Whoea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I just want a good striker is that too much to ask? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I just want a good striker is that too much to ask? I'm gonna go with "yes" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 the defence is fine and that is a good thing, solid foundations and all that. the problem is we don't need two midfielders who do the same thing in every single game (carrick & schneiderlin) at the expense of someone like herrera who takes chances and makes things happen. i guess schneiderlin & schweinsteiger is an improvement on that, if that's what we're moving towards as it seems, but we still need to be taking more risks from midfield. mata coming inside is fine and i don't have a problem with him, since darmian gets up and down on the outside, but the guy playing in the 10 role needs to be quicker than januzaj in general and, again, take more risks when playing the ball. if we're not going to play herrera i think we should put memphis back there and play young/januzaj/pereira/new winger on the left. or even play schneiderlin-herrera-schweinsteiger, though van gaal seems reluctant to play 4-3-3 or herrera for some reason. on top of all this we need everything i've already mentioned from our main striker as well, otherwise we'll just carry on looking too flat and rigid in attack, unable to score anywhere near enough goals to win anything. but the only likely thing i can think of van gaal doing, if anything at all, at an absolute push, is play rooney off hernandez/new striker with memphis on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 or play fellaini as a 10 and become more direct by default, my favourite theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoldeFK15 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Can foresee us wasting 30m upward on Kane in a reactionary purchase similar to Wenger's spend spend after the 8-2. Unfortuantely, Benzema aside, there seems to be a dearth of top strikers compared to 10-15 years ago. Would rather punt on Wilson all season as opposed to bidding on a one season wonder who would likely cost £40m+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 We will likely loan Januzaj, Jesse and Pereira too I'd imagine Lingard will be sold. the defence is fine and that is a good thing, solid foundations and all that. the problem is we don't need two midfielders who do the same thing in every single game (carrick & schneiderlin) at the expense of someone like herrera who takes chances and makes things happen. i guess schneiderlin & schweinsteiger is an improvement on that, if that's what we're moving towards as it seems, but we still need to be taking more risks from midfield. mata coming inside is fine and i don't have a problem with him, since darmian gets up and down on the outside, but the guy playing in the 10 role needs to be quicker than januzaj in general and, again, take more risks when playing the ball. if we're not going to play herrera i think we should put memphis back there and play young/januzaj/pereira/new winger on the left. or even play schneiderlin-herrera-schweinsteiger, though van gaal seems reluctant to play 4-3-3 or herrera for some reason. Therein lies the problem I'm fine with Mata coming inside in terms of Mata in isolation; the problem is that when there's not enough going on around him everything is too predictable. He's always going to cut in and he's always going to operate in front of the defence. Good as Darmian has been thus far he's not enough of a danger to cause sufficient concern for the defence. As such a lot of our better work has come down the left and it's a bit predictable. If we had Mata in the middle he'd have more passing angles available, and with Januzaj or whoever on the right we'd have two wingers who can go either way and have sufficient pace to ask questions of the defence. Playing Memphis in the middle seems to starve him of the space he needs to operate effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Kane would be a fantastic buy This thread acts like SAF bought every player he or the fans wanted and never let one get away. Could fill a worlds 11 with his missed targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'd be delighted if United waste crazy money on Harry Kane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Kane with no service is the same as Rooney with no service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Kane would at least get involved in play, but like I said. He's had one great season, there's a lot of risk involved. I never thought I'd say this, but we need Ibrahimovic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Was it even a whole season? Got found out towards the end... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Kane would at least get involved in play, but like I said. He's had one great season, there's a lot of risk involved.I never thought I'd say this, but we need Ibrahimovic... There's never a time when you don't need Zlatan in your life and in your team. Never. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Was it even a whole season? Got found out towards the end... Difficult to say which is the concern with him. Nobody is fantastic for 100% of the season of course, even Messi during his 73 goal season had the odd dry spell so it could have just been a natural dip in forum everyone has. But if he has been worked out or the form was just a freak then we'd be in big trouble. I'd rather take a punt on Zlatan (I freely admit half of that would be purely for hilarity purposes) and wait a year to see about Kane. £60m on a guaranteed 20 goal a season striker is better than £40m on one that could potentially be a bit crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I just want a half decent manager. Sacking LVG would mean much more than getting any player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't even Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Deary me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Anyone who thinks LVG is the right man is seriously diluded. We have the worst manager in the top 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Liverpool not top 6 \o/ I like that line of thinking, for what it's worth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'd keep LvG over Ranieri and Pardiola definitely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'd rather have Giggs in charge than LVG LVG managed to get Bayern to finish 3rd in the Bundesliga before he got sacked there. He was probably happy with that as he was with the diabolical performance on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Have you actually already reached the stage where you've become a parody of yourself? Shame, was hoping you'd save that for the second half of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's like Superman's arch nemesis. Where is he these days? Haven't seen these two in the same place..t the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 United turning down Mourinho for Moyes/LVG in football terms is like a single man turning down a Victoria Secret supermodel for a fat 20 stone whale in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 You've got 7 from 9 ffs, jesus you really are the anti-superman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I see we have jumped into the deep end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 You've got 7 from 9 ffs, jesus you really are the anti-superman I long laughed at the Arsenal thread for having Sy and to a lesser extent, ajw. Can't help but feel Sid1984 is karmic retribution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Blind at the back is helping smalling apparantly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 You've got 7 from 9 ffs, jesus you really are the anti-superman 1 from the last 3. You don't win titles if you only get 33% of the points on offer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's not like Pedro turned us down. Do you honestly believe that? Anything I've read or heard has been the total opposite of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 we have been offered Pato for £11m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Oh god... It's come to this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Do you honestly believe that?Anything I've read or heard has been the total opposite of that. Then you must have been very selective, because even his agent basically said we dicked around for too long and blew it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm fine with Mata coming inside in terms of Mata in isolation; the problem is that when there's not enough going on around him everything is too predictable. He's always going to cut in and he's always going to operate in front of the defence. Good as Darmian has been thus far he's not enough of a danger to cause sufficient concern for the defence. As such a lot of our better work has come down the left and it's a bit predictable. If we had Mata in the middle he'd have more passing angles available, and with Januzaj or whoever on the right we'd have two wingers who can go either way and have sufficient pace to ask questions of the defence. Playing Memphis in the middle seems to starve him of the space he needs to operate effectively. oh yeah mata in the middle would be even better, there's no real benefit to playing him wider instead. it seems the obvious answer in fact. he'd probably start playing out of his skin as i'm sure david silva will keep doing now he's been moved inside. but as you say it's ultimately a lack of movement and speed around him, he can't do everything on his own because he lacks the pace to drive through people like memphis for example can from, well, anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I don't think a 3 behind the striker suits Mata regardless, he's best on the right cutting in and having a midfielder make runs from deep into the empty space he leaves *cough*Herrera*cough* but LvG wont play that while we have no goals coming from up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 United turning down Mourinho for Moyes/LVG in football terms is like a single man turning down a Victoria Secret supermodel for a fat 20 stone whale in real life. You've got 7 from 9 ffs, jesus you really are the anti-superman They have been totally unconvincing though and I think you will see a lot of United's flaws when they play better teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yet we played our best football last season against the other top teams in the league.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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