roykela Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Might just be me and selective memory but i've noticed something about corners. When a team gets a corner it's relatively rare to see that corner not ending up another corner. Not a clearance up the field or defending team getting possession and playing it up the field. Nor the goalie coming out to take the ball. It "always" goes to a another corner. Nothing wrong with that in itself but it feels like it's happening a bit too much. Playing on extensive 3D highlights, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Might just be me and selective memory but i've noticed something about corners.When a team gets a corner it's relatively rare to see that corner not ending up another corner. Not a clearance up the field or defending team getting possession and playing it up the field. Nor the goalie coming out to take the ball. It "always" goes to a another corner. Nothing wrong with that in itself but it feels like it's happening a bit too much. Playing on extensive 3D highlights, by the way. I don't get that at all, sometimes a goal, sometimes another corner, sometimes the defenders clear it, etc, etc. Don't see any problem there tbh. Edit- Also if it *always* went for another corner wouldn't the entire game be 1 team taking a corner since the first corner was awarded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerhgrrrrrr Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 You get that option when you r/click add to shortlist in your search screen.(or any list screen) in fact anytime you r/click on a players name to choose add to shortlist.In fact the only time you can't define the length is from that button (which makes it a bug I guess) ..the one time it would be most convenient! Nevermind loving the game in all other aspects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I don't get that at all, sometimes a goal, sometimes another corner, sometimes the defenders clear it, etc, etc.Don't see any problem there tbh. Edit- Also if it *always* went for another corner wouldn't the entire game be 1 team taking a corner since the first corner was awarded? I see your point with the paradoxal endless loop of corners. Thankfully it's nothing like that. Would make for an interesting possession percentage Good to hear you haven't experienced it. Then it might just be my instructions that provokes it, combined with my and the opposition's players. At the moment if a team gets a corner they will very often have another corner immediately after the first one. I'm kind of glad it happens more often than it did in FM13 but for me it's a bit over the top at the moment. Will have to investigate a bit more then. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 ..the one time it would be most convenient! Nevermind loving the game in all other aspects. I've done a bug report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerhgrrrrrr Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I've done a bug report. Whoops, so did I !. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 anyone got any advice to deal with the poor defences Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golb Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Utter pathetic. The shooting/finishing and even heading at goal is diabolical. ****ing joke. Yeah it's "Only a beta." A 'Beta' that has already gone to disc. Isn't a beta at all. This is what the game is until they patch it. Same as last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Utter pathetic. The shooting/finishing and even heading at goal is diabolical. ****ing joke. Yeah it's "Only a beta." A 'Beta' that has already gone to disc. Isn't a beta at all. This is what the game is until they patch it. Same as last year. It's a beta in every sense of the word. If you have any specific issues, please post them constructively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow101 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Hi everyone, Have been reading this thread with interest the last few days, just one thing that has cropped a few times and just wanted to clarify please. Neil B said earlier that 'this is the final data' in relation to errors/omissions etc, can I just confirm that means no data update now until Jan? I am ok with that as the only issue that will effect me I can live with or change in editor, just wanted to confirm so I can plan which way to go. Ps overall liking the game, once game comes out on 31st should be looking very good, well done SI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golb Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Beta is for a game that isn't finished. This is the game that's gone to disc. That doesn't make it a Beta, it makes the game unfinished, yes. SI use the excuse it's a beta so it's customers can test it for them. Safeguards themselves by claiming it is. So you telling me the game we are all playing now, and the game that has gone to disc is different? I said the same thing last year and was proved right. They even PATCHED the beta. You don't bring out a beta whilst the game is about to come out!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 19, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 19, 2013 Whoops, so did I !. That's fine, we'd rather two people raise the same issue than no-one raise it. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ritchie Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 A couple of niggles that I'll post in the bugs forums if they're not already there, but generally I'm hugely impressed by this. I haven't bought the last two games because I got bored of the whole thing (had been playing since CM 93/94 and worked for 9 months as a tester on FM09 and 10) so this is obviously going to appear to be a bigger step forward than it will for most, but I'm actually enjoying FM for the first time in years. The main things for me are transfer negotiations and tactics. I hated the sliders. At the moment I feel like the instructions and roles give me more than enough control and are much more accessible. Edit: Would also point out that having my new 24 inch monitor instead of the 14 inch screen has made a huge difference to my enjoyment of the game. The mass of information on the screen has gone from overwhelming to extremely valuable. But on the negative side, I'm not exaggerating when I say that my eyes actually hurt from the brightness. I know there will be many other skins available but I really think SI should offer something less bright from day one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Beta is for a game that isn't finished. This is the game that's gone to disc. That doesn't make it a Beta, it makes the game unfinished, yes. SI use the excuse it's a beta so it's customers can test it for them. Safeguards themselves by claiming it is. So you telling me the game we are all playing now, and the game that has gone to disc is different? I said the same thing last year and was proved right. They even PATCHED the beta. You don't bring out a beta whilst the game is about to come out!! The game isn't finished, nor has it gone "to disc" since there is always ability to patch (especially as there is usually a release day patch), nor has the demo been released... This is a Beta, there would have been a closed one running much longer than the one currently. As I've said already, keep your feedback constructive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smgers Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Beta is for a game that isn't finished. This is the game that's gone to disc. That doesn't make it a Beta, it makes the game unfinished, yes. SI use the excuse it's a beta so it's customers can test it for them. Safeguards themselves by claiming it is. So you telling me the game we are all playing now, and the game that has gone to disc is different? I said the same thing last year and was proved right. They even PATCHED the beta. You don't bring out a beta whilst the game is about to come out!! It's not officially released until 31 October so how can you say this is the released version?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 19, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 19, 2013 Hi everyone,Have been reading this thread with interest the last few days, just one thing that has cropped a few times and just wanted to clarify please. Neil B said earlier that 'this is the final data' in relation to errors/omissions etc, can I just confirm that means no data update now until Jan? I am ok with that as the only issue that will effect me I can live with or change in editor, just wanted to confirm so I can plan which way to go. Ps overall liking the game, once game comes out on 31st should be looking very good, well done SI The data is 'final' yes. If something really major came up we could possibly make a slight change but only if it was a very severe issue. All other data updates will have to wait until the January Window transfer update now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 All other data updates will have to wait until the January Window transfer update now. Thanks for making that clear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow101 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 The data is 'final' yes. If something really major came up we could possibly make a slight change but only if it was a very severe issue. All other data updates will have to wait until the January Window transfer update now. Thanks Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_crab Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 First time I've posted about Fm14. The main thing is I believe in my opinion that it is an improvement on Fm13. I think the 3d match engine is much improved and with the new tactics system for the first time ever I have managed to get my team playing more or less exactly how I want them playing. One thing I don't like is when hiring staff your allowance of staff is all in 1 pot instead of the board saying you can have 1 fitness,1 gk etc and it seems that the board in a lot of cases doesn't give you enough allowance on coaches so it'd difficult to specialise. Apart from that well done si. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 The data is 'final' yes. If something really major came up we could possibly make a slight change but only if it was a very severe issue. All other data updates will have to wait until the January Window transfer update now. In the future, wouldn't it be a good idea to wait with the "closure" of the DB until the beta has been out for a while? After all, we find quite some errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Overall impressions are very positive! The game looks very streamlined. There's a few things that I'm having difficulty finding in this year's edition of the game.1. How do I send my assistant manager to go look for loan players of a specific position? It doesn't seem to be attached to the "Get Advice from Staff" anymore. 2. In the Twitter messages that talked about new features for FM14, it mentioned a separate wage budget for staff members. How do I find out what my staff wage budget is? The only wage budget I can find is for my players. 3. There are no sponsor details listed in the finance screen. My income tab says I received sponsorship money, but the summary screen doesn't list any sponsors. Has this moved from last year? 4. How do I sign players? I have a wage budget, but every player I go to sign will only allow me to offer $0 wages. These are the only things I've noticed so far. Small admittedly, except for the signing players issue which is stopping me from playing right now. Would appreciate any help! The summary tab for sponsors is only a record of significant sponsorship deals that are known from real life or of significant deals that are added during the game. Naturally even lower level sides have dozens of sponsorship deals of negligible value, but if we stated every single one the screen would become quite unwieldy. Regarding your second question, have you offered out a load of deals to players? Which club are you managing? Thanks for the reply! For the sponsorship, that makes sense I guess. So I assume that some sponsorship money comes from sponsors that are too small to state? Is there a cut off point? For signing players, it happened on the very first player I tried to sign and all thereafter. I was finally able to sign one player, one that was recommended to me by my assistant manager. I'm managing Stockport in the Skrill North. That's the only player I've been allowed to sign, none before none after. My first question was answered. Now that I can find it, very cool change! Any thoughts on my second one? I was one of the quick posts on Twitter on new features and I'd love to know how much I have to spend on staff. Thanks! cerud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofpilot Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It´s nice to see that Iam not the only one who has major issues with pathetic finishing which has already ruined the game for me Iam not willing to play a game where I KNOW my player just wont score when he is one on one etc. It´s also funny because when i raised this ussie here I was sarcastically ridiculed by one moderator, as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It´s nice to see that Iam not the only one who has major issues with pathetic finishing which has already ruined the game for me Iam not willing to play a game where I KNOW my player just wont score when he is one on one etc. It´s also funny because when i raised this ussie here I was sarcastically ridiculed by one moderator, as usual. As stated by the other moderator, if you have specific instances, please post them in the bugs sections as shown at the top (just to be clear, he did not ridicule you. You said yourself you had 30 instances, he rightly pointed out you should then have plenty of examples to provide to SI) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofpilot Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 So should I upload my entire save or how should i proceed? Examples of non realistic finishing are in every game I have played so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 In the future, wouldn't it be a good idea to wait with the "closure" of the DB until the beta has been out for a while? After all, we find quite some errors. That's not possible as the final data has to be in place and proved for going gold (disc version cut off date) as Neil said if something glaringly bad turned up they'd probably find a way to squeeze it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 So should I upload my entire save or how should i proceed? Examples of non realistic finishing are in every game I have played so far. You upload a PKM and list the minutes where the most obvious examples occur (if that isn't too much trouble) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It´s nice to see that Iam not the only one who has major issues with pathetic finishing which has already ruined the game for me Iam not willing to play a game where I KNOW my player just wont score when he is one on one etc. It´s also funny because when i raised this ussie here I was sarcastically ridiculed by one moderator, as usual. Can't believe there is something wrong with not scoring enough, goals are flying in left, right and centre in my save. Just had a quick look at the league table and I have played 21 games with 58 scored for and 31 scored against, the last thing I would need is for SI to boast the scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Had 51 games as Hearts manager and in those 51 games there has been 173 goals (90 scored and 83 conceded). That does seem very high Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 19, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 19, 2013 In the future, wouldn't it be a good idea to wait with the "closure" of the DB until the beta has been out for a while? After all, we find quite some errors. Due to the vast nature of the database and the very large amount of testing which goes into it (plus the fact the database is one of the largest areas of the game so has to be ready in time for the disc to be printed) this just isn't feasible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_crab Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It´s nice to see that Iam not the only one who has major issues with pathetic finishing which has already ruined the game for me Iam not willing to play a game where I KNOW my player just wont score when he is one on one etc. It´s also funny because when i raised this ussie here I was sarcastically ridiculed by one moderator, as usual. You sound wound up and are being abit dramatic I'm managing in Iceland and I'm scoring a Shizz load of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfclee Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Defenders are too weak against counterattacks. it does not matter how good your defenders are. I've tried many tactics with many teams. My team always concede too much goal from counterattacks when i play offensive. I became succesful with only playing counterattack. Its a problem i've noticed aswell, the defending and positioning of defenders is terrible no matter how good the defender is. You can always see a goal coming, hopefully fixed in the final release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 171 goals (90 scored and 83 conceded) Math taking a hit here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I have left the match sound down to 1 but it still is at full volume. The crowd noise is irritating. I have to reduce the main volume. Can you please look into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Math taking a hit here. I just edited it Those game included a 6-2, 5-4, 5-3, 6-3, 5-2, 4-4 and 5-5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenlander Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 couldn,t agree with daylight more the problem I find is too many goals being scored because of defenders standing around looking instead of doing their job defending Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korleone Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Nice goal... nice Keeper's move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhawk Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Has anybody seen a goal from a powerful strike from outside the box on their FM14 game yet? All my goals seem to be passing moves, crosses or corners? Seems to be an abnormally low amout of long range goals on my game. Yes, plenty, but it's also the first thing to go when we're in a shooting slump, at which point I have to turn to manufacturing more goals via set pieces and crosses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goat101010 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 after a fair few games only a few things bug me. im sure the match widget things moving has been mentioned and a pretty minor thing but to me the ball seems to have no weight, it seems most long shots and crosses seem very floaty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treble_yell_:-) Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 The new tactics system is brilliant. I've played every single release since the start and this is the easiest I think it has ever been to evaluate what's going wrong and make simple changes during a match. The defending is turd and some of the finishing is beyond laughable , but tactics and the UI and are all kinds of awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakia_Time Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Welp. its nice to see FM14 replacing a system i didn't understand (the sliders) with one i understand even less, on the bright side i set a personal record, a 13-0 loss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Coleman Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Thanks for the reply! For the sponsorship, that makes sense I guess. So I assume that some sponsorship money comes from sponsors that are too small to state? Is there a cut off point?For signing players, it happened on the very first player I tried to sign and all thereafter. I was finally able to sign one player, one that was recommended to me by my assistant manager. I'm managing Stockport in the Skrill North. That's the only player I've been allowed to sign, none before none after. My first question was answered. Now that I can find it, very cool change! Any thoughts on my second one? I was one of the quick posts on Twitter on new features and I'd love to know how much I have to spend on staff. Thanks! cerud Stockport have a very limited wage budget at the start of the game. I just checked here and I was able to sign one player but no more as that would put me over the wage budget. Regarding the 'staff budget', this refers to greater control over the makeup of your staff as opposed to an actual wage value for staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Is there any way to permanently change which interface gets displayed between highlights during a game? It constantly shows my the oppositions ratings and I have to manually change it to show my own teams ratings in the game. Is there somewhere I can alter this so it always shows my own teams performance by default? It's been reported as a bug, so hopefully it will be fixed for the full version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Just noticed that Coventry will move bcak into the Ricoh Arena in 2016 when they want to build a new stadium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Stockport have a very limited wage budget at the start of the game. I just checked here and I was able to sign one player but no more as that would put me over the wage budget.Regarding the 'staff budget', this refers to greater control over the makeup of your staff as opposed to an actual wage value for staff. I have actually just this minute put in the bug forum a big problem with this and this years release. Every single player in my Altrincham side only has a 1 year contract, even players I have signed only want a 1 year contract, at a squeeze I got a couple to sign for 2 years. With the budgets in place this year it makes for a nightmare scenario, I am looking good to win the league this year and win promotion, almost my entire team is going to be out of contract, I can not get 1 player to extend his contract as I can not even afford to offer them what they are getting now! This is a real game breaker, I could and most likely will lose almost my entire team as I can not offer them new contracts. Also as I put in the bug report no player will even consider more than 1 year extension, so this will be the case every year, at least in the lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Stockport have a very limited wage budget at the start of the game. I just checked here and I was able to sign one player but no more as that would put me over the wage budget.Regarding the 'staff budget', this refers to greater control over the makeup of your staff as opposed to an actual wage value for staff. Hmmm...not sure if this makes sense. The one player I was able to eventually sign, I was allowed to offer him about three times the wages of my most expensive player. I wonder why I was able to offer him so much, if I'm not allow to offer all other players nothing. It's also important to note that the player I did sign was not the first I tried. Several before him did not allow me to offer wages. Appreciate the answer about staff though. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdr12 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Hello, just finished a season. Thought I'd share my feedback. Really sorry if the points I raise have already been raised. I don't have time to go back through the 16 odd pages because I have a challenging transfer windows ahead (I know, I'm really rocking this saturday night). Anyway, really like the new UI, the updated match engine and the new tactics set up. Basically, brilliant game. Apart from the back-to-the-keeper passes which I know is a known issue, its only the tackling that really sticks out in this ME. Players tackle fine but then do nothing right after it and just stand there. This allows the the guy to just pick it up again and move on. Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this. But as I said, basically loving it. Thanks for the hard work over the year guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Genuinely my favourite new feature so far... Being able to select Dolgellau as my place of birth and any other random little towns i care too... Just brilliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defensive Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It´s nice to see that Iam not the only one who has major issues with pathetic finishing which has already ruined the game for me Iam not willing to play a game where I KNOW my player just wont score when he is one on one etc. It´s also funny because when i raised this ussie here I was sarcastically ridiculed by one moderator, as usual. Unbelievable. Because of people like you we will have even more goals soon! SI please dont listen to this, there are already way too many goals! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 19, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 19, 2013 Unbelievable. Because of people like you we will have even more goals soon! SI please dont listen to this, there are already way too many goals! Don't worry, we take very detailed stats from every single league in-game to try and get a decent balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benallen002 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I'm afraid to say SI but I think my FM "career" will end in this version. I think he removal of sliders is a major mistake. Yes it wasn't realistic, I admit, but it was what made every FM manager "different". It's what separated the meticulous Mourinho's to the motivational Redknapp's. For me the enjoyment was first creating a tactic, a philosophy if you will, and then focus on breeding youth through. Now I feel half of the enjoyment has gone.I would like to thank you guys though for the years of enjoyment I've had with the game. We're talking since CM2 So it's been a good run, it has indeed. Good luck in future, I'm sure the new version will attract new players and I hope they enjoy it as much as I have throughout the years. Good luck to you as well, we'll miss you around the boards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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