toon army 06 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 This guy seemes amazing but poor interms of pace and power, but i compared his techinal skills to that of a few world class players in the game and he was equel to a few and bettter than some. hes been labled the next pep guardiola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 where'd you find this one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Will definitely be world class but may struggle to play well the first years of his career because of his physique. Since he barely needs anything else, high aerobic and strength training is a must for him, maybe with a focus on quickness. I have seen as good 17-year-olds but those were more balanced, so in terms of technique he is up there yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Really good both technically and mentally for that age, could be a great creative striker if you use one on your tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSCA4Ever Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The playmaker I was looking for, how much do you want for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnjo Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Should be a nice player in a few 'yhears' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
athos7 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 He's Spanish, so it's no surprise that he has such good technical attributes. Spain, Argentina and Brazil produce loads of them. Try finding one from England or Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 wasn't guardiola a defensive midfielder? why is a AMLC/ST touted as the next Guardiola? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Not bad player, but how about thoughts on my newgen ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobBRFC Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Not bad player, but how about thoughts on my newgen ? Wow, not bad at all. Physicals are top notch, maybe not as good technicaly as the OP's but as a more rounded player id go for your lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Whippy Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Plus, he's Bosnian, they always produce ridiculous players on my game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Pjanic there likely needs tutoring though. If his development doesn't take off I would do that for sure. Both are rare talents especially if you haven't loaded extra players from non-active leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 wasn't guardiola a defensive midfielder?why is a AMLC/ST touted as the next Guardiola? Was an M/AMC iirc. If he's down as an MC in the database, then an AMLC could also have the MC in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham FM Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 both players look unreal for 17 year olds... the first lad looks amazing and with the right training on his physique he become world class and might be hard to hold onto him so enjoy him while you can... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJCFC Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Not very good at marking is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The OP - I would put him on a fairly physical regime, although not stupidly tough, and blood him in some cup games. Next season, out on loan somewhere half-decent. Maybe get yourself a feeder club in England or a smaller European nation (that is playable/viewable) for experience. Although, in Scotland, with not many clubs touching Rangers and Celtic, maybe he can go straight into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The OP - I would put him on a fairly physical regime, although not stupidly tough, and blood him in some cup games. Next season, out on loan somewhere half-decent. Maybe get yourself a feeder club in England or a smaller European nation (that is playable/viewable) for experience. Although, in Scotland, with not many clubs touching Rangers and Celtic, maybe he can go straight into the team. If you loan him out the first three years chances are he won't be HG club. It is better to let him play in the first team now and then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Was an M/AMC iirc. more like a DMC/MC from what I read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_B Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 both players look unreal for 17 year olds... To be fair, Owen was playing for England when he was 17. more like a DMC/MC from what I read Read?? That makes me feel old! He was a DMC when I signed him in CM ~10 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Play him as a central midfield advanced playmaker alongside a ball winner, with a DM behind them. He would be devasting. Re: the title, Nicholas Millan was similar to this a few FMs ago, very high technical attributes and some high mental attributes but useless physically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_wilko Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Got this guy, not as good technically but he is either footed and has a decent set of physicals too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Love players that can play with both feet, he looks great, just needs maybe some individual focus on that agility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Plus, he's Bosnian, they always produce ridiculous players on my game. Good to see game being realistic then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 nothing like that i found a nice striker with 18 finishing 17 acceleration and 18 pace in brazil though, he will be the best poacher ever this guy got right into the first team over a well developed areola lol has 200 PA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon army 06 Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 wasn't guardiola a defensive midfielder?why is a AMLC/ST touted as the next Guardiola? He was a playmaker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 guess who just scored in the Champions League final ? he he he is young enough so I am going to retrain him in MC then AMC then Striker. Right now he is a ML/AML Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 He was a playmaker You gotta be kidding me! you people are killing me:( http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/pep-guardiola/profil/spieler_5950.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josep_Guardiola maybe deep lying playmaker at most! (pic is taken from cm01-02) People should think again touting a AMLC/ST as the next Guardiola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 That's very playmaker tbh. What is Guardiola listed as in the current DB though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 mannn i feel old... you guys have got to be kidding me? .. the fella was a classic number 4 if you like... the lynchpin and pivot thats so popular these days... a bit like Xavi really.. or xabi alonso... defensive in postion.. but forward thinking ... without him and the likes of cruyff .. the modern game would be much different imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 A DLP thus... Anyway. Sick regens in here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 People's roles change over time. Gerrard was DMC when he first came on the scene, now AMC/R. If anyone has a screenie of him in 01-02 (when he wasn't good at all) or maybe a couple of editions on from that, maybe up to 2004/05, I'm sure he'll be DMC. Guardiola maybe started as AMC in his early days, but by the time he was 30 made it to DMC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 "Pep' Guardiola adjusted immediately, as Cruyff had suspected he would, and when he moved up into the first-team in 1990 he became the pivot of the Dream Team" "Johan Cruyff utilised the young defensive midfielder in the absence of the suspended Guillermo Amor. He became a first team regular in the 1991–92 season and at only 20 years old was a key component of a side that won La Liga and the European Cup. The prestigious Italian magazine Guerin Sportivo heralded Guardiola as the finest player in the world under the age of 21." taken from wiki also Guardiola would have never played AMC, Barcelona's 4-3-3 uses DMC-MC-MC-AMR-AML-ST (even in the youth sides) If I find a statistics sheet with assists for Guardiola I can prove that he wasn't a deep lying playmaker either, he was just defensive midfielder in the team there were José Mari Bakero, Koeman, Laudrup, Stoichkov, later Figo, Rivaldo, Luis Enrique they were the ones employed with the assisting so what I am saying here is that the regen is too advanced in his position to be touted as the next Guardiola Guardiola is listed in the editor as a midfield playmaker, which is clearly wrong for me, midfield playmaker is very different from a pivote and even from a deep lying playmaker, because he doesn't have defensive duties, or has only little Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Tis the best player I have had through my youth system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poola21 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 this is a guy I stolen from Inter, trying to retrain him to MC as I have tons of strikers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham FM Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 some good players there and with the right training could be very good indeed...i have started buying youth players now and will post one or two of my best players one of the best youths i have at the club..getting first team football too.. what you think.. im halifax town in the prem.. finished 4th last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The best 15 year old to come through my ranks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 My best regen! Use him as my playmaker in a 451 formation. The only bad thing about him, is that he have "run with the ball often" as ppm. I've been trying to remove that for the past year, but still with no sucess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Just after I signed him... Barely four months later... Whilst not initially as good as some of the other examples here, he's five star rated potential and with a few games here and there, his attributes are climbing very quickly. Best of all... I spotted him during a standard player search and he wasn't attached to any clubs. He was a free agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony_BRFC Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Not going to lie, but some of these regens look brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnjo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Out of interest what 'prefered foot' do these guys have? I can only see one with 'either' do the others have Strong and weak or reasonable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidex Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Just bought this 15 years old, can't wait to see how he develop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon army 06 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 You gotta be kidding me! you people are killing me:(http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/pep-guardiola/profil/spieler_5950.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josep_Guardiola maybe deep lying playmaker at most! (pic is taken from cm01-02) People should think again touting a AMLC/ST as the next Guardiola he was a playmaker in the alonso mould as a player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon army 06 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 People's roles change over time. Gerrard was DMC when he first came on the scene, now AMC/R. If anyone has a screenie of him in 01-02 (when he wasn't good at all) or maybe a couple of editions on from that, maybe up to 2004/05, I'm sure he'll be DMC. Guardiola maybe started as AMC in his early days, but by the time he was 30 made it to DMC. gerrard was a box to box player he'd be listed as dmc/mc i would think and he was a really good player back in 01-02 btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon army 06 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 "Pep' Guardiola adjusted immediately, as Cruyff had suspected he would, and when he moved up into the first-team in 1990 he became the pivot of the Dream Team""Johan Cruyff utilised the young defensive midfielder in the absence of the suspended Guillermo Amor. He became a first team regular in the 1991–92 season and at only 20 years old was a key component of a side that won La Liga and the European Cup. The prestigious Italian magazine Guerin Sportivo heralded Guardiola as the finest player in the world under the age of 21." taken from wiki also Guardiola would have never played AMC, Barcelona's 4-3-3 uses DMC-MC-MC-AMR-AML-ST (even in the youth sides) If I find a statistics sheet with assists for Guardiola I can prove that he wasn't a deep lying playmaker either, he was just defensive midfielder in the team there were José Mari Bakero, Koeman, Laudrup, Stoichkov, later Figo, Rivaldo, Luis Enrique they were the ones employed with the assisting so what I am saying here is that the regen is too advanced in his position to be touted as the next Guardiola Guardiola is listed in the editor as a midfield playmaker, which is clearly wrong for me, midfield playmaker is very different from a pivote and even from a deep lying playmaker, because he doesn't have defensive duties, or has only little you are missing the point in his role he played like a playmaker with his touches and passing of course he won't get many assists in the team he was in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_bob Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 My guy has the best technical attributes for a 17 years old in this thread. He will be huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrD Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 That's very playmaker tbh.What is Guardiola listed as in the current DB though? Manager ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Well yeah, I meant under the legends section ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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