Barnzy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Well that's what they virtually did to Luton. Wasnt there other issue's other than just administration with Luton though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 No idea. Luton fans seem to think that way though. Also Blackpool apparently making an approach for David Goodwillie. They certainly mean business this year (need to work on their defence though). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 No idea. Luton fans seem to think that way though.Also Blackpool apparently making an approach for David Goodwillie. They certainly mean business this year (need to work on their defence though). Combination of a few things by the looks of it http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/7500435.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Oh yeah what's happened to DJ Campbell's supposed move to QPR? Haven't heard anything for a couple of weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 According to BBC thingy he's going to be talking them in the next few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Yeah Waghorn doesn't have the greatest scoring record, I'd rather have the extra money to spend on defenders. Especially when you consider a good proportion of the goals he has scored for us were penalties. Not that that makes them less legitimate or anything, but if you already have a good penalty taker then it would suggest he would have scored even less for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Oh yeah. Well I think they'll do OK next year, almost a total rebuild which should do OK with or without Campbell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Especially when you consider a good proportion of the goals he has scored for us were penalties. Not that that makes them less legitimate or anything, but if you already have a good penalty taker then it would suggest he would have scored even less for you. Laughed at the 1.5 million valuation in the Mirror earlier - though looking at the current market that's probably not far off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Laughed at the 1.5 million valuation in the Mirror earlier - though looking at the current market that's probably not far off! He gets overrated because he works hard and shows "passion" imo. I'm sure I've had this little rant about him before on here, but it's the typical English fans attitude, run your socks off and sections of the crowd will deify you regardless of how much of an effective player you actually are. His technique and footballing intelligence really aren't up to Championship standard for me, his whole game basically revolves around his hard work and chasing the ball down and I don't think he's even particularly effective in doing this. What's more is that his affection from our fans seemed to go through the roof when he missed the penalty in the play-off final and started crying. That about sums him up, seems everyone who goes on about how good he is tends to go on about how much he "cares for the club" and how "passionate" he is rather than actually stating any attributes he has a player. I actually saw more than one post on one of our forums about this rumoured swap deal that said they didn't want it to go through as selling Waghorn for Maynard would seem like the club was selling their soul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChris Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Cardiff have signed Kenny Miller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 He gets overrated because he works hard and shows "passion" imo. I'm sure I've had this little rant about him before on here, but it's the typical English fans attitude, run your socks off and sections of the crowd will deify you regardless of how much of an effective player you actually are. His technique and footballing intelligence really aren't up to Championship standard for me, his whole game basically revolves around his hard work and chasing the ball down and I don't think he's even particularly effective in doing this.What's more is that his affection from our fans seemed to go through the roof when he missed the penalty in the play-off final and started crying. That about sums him up, seems everyone who goes on about how good he is tends to go on about how much he "cares for the club" and how "passionate" he is rather than actually stating any attributes he has a player. I actually saw more than one post on one of our forums about this rumoured swap deal that said they didn't want it to go through as selling Waghorn for Maynard would seem like the club was selling their soul. That's how our fans feel about Louis Carey I think sometimes, cause he loves the club they are prepared to look past the fact that he has lost a lot with age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 QPR have offered to swap Jason Puncheon for Kaspars Gorkss according to the Press Association. I'd take that, as Puncheon really isn't needed at Saints with Lallana, Chamberlain, Guly do Prado and De Ridder offering wide options and Jason has an attitude problem (hence the multiple clubs in his career). Although Ammar Jemal still seems a possibility for a new centre back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 sandefjord 1 leeds 1 F/T nunez for leeds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Has it been mentioned yet that David Stockdale has opted to join Ipswich? Also Blackpool have signed ANOTHER striker, Craig Sutherland who turned down Reading to join, according to the BBC. They've signed two defenders so far iirc, Matt Hill and someone from Newport County I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Has it been mentioned yet that David Stockdale has opted to join Ipswich?Also Blackpool have signed ANOTHER striker, Craig Sutherland who turned down Reading to join, according to the BBC. They've signed two defenders so far iirc, Matt Hill and someone from Newport County I think. Robert Harriss another defender they have signed. And I doubt Blackpool will sign Goodiwllie, if they do I wouldn't be too fussed. Cardiff interested in Craig Fagan and Jordan Mutch apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I don't know about Stockdale, he seems to get hyped a lot, but for us he was very average in League One. Before that he'd never been proven above League Two level and since then he played in a relegated Plymouth side and played about 6 or 7 games for Fulham. I'm not really sure where his hype and rise in stock has come from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Just back from Forest Green, won 3-1 but to be honest they were awful, their goal was a penalty for a dodgy handball. Still didnt look great despite the win mind, some of our younger players did well (Lennox and Reid) and Pitman had 2 good finishes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I don't know about Stockdale, he seems to get hyped a lot, but for us he was very average in League One. Before that he'd never been proven above League Two level and since then he played in a relegated Plymouth side and played about 6 or 7 games for Fulham. I'm not really sure where his hype and rise in stock has come from. He got an England call up because he was one of three non-retired English goalkeepers starting for PL clubs at the time. That has caused 100% of the hype around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 according to a few media outlets, birmingham could be forced to sell off a load of players to free up some cash, as their owners money is frozen due to his court case and the holding companies shares have been suspended, no idea if its true or not ( only paper ive seen it in is the mirror ) but seems a bit big to just make up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvkwkad Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 they're making a statement tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Routledge off to Swansea now according SSN . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 they said the other day that swansea had pulled out, i doubt they have a clue tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 They jumped the gun on most of our deals this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 according to a few media outlets, birmingham could be forced to sell off a load of players to free up some cash, as their owners money is frozen due to his court case and the holding companies shares have been suspended, no idea if its true or not ( only paper ive seen it in is the mirror ) but seems a bit big to just make up? How long till they get repossessed by the Hong Kong government like West Ham was by the Icelandic government (iirc)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Yeah been rumours that Birmingham have to flog off the entire team for a week or two now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If this is a genuine account, and it would seem that it is. It looks like Tunisian international centre back Ammar Jemal will be signing for Southampton soon and partnering Jose Fonte in the heart of the defence. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ammar-Jemal/131548570222248?ref=ts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik86 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 We've apparently signed a Scottish striker called Craig Sutherland, nothing official yet though. Anyone know anything about him?http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/14289399.stm http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/147501-dumbarton-fc-201112/page__st__1175 Turns out he's signed for Blackpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDiCanio Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I expected to return from holiday and see that Cole/Parker/Green had all finally left. Bizarre really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Bizarre in a good way though? Birmingham rumours are interesting - thought they were going to be contenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Dean Gripton Posted July 27, 2011 SI Staff Share Posted July 27, 2011 Been a while since I popped in here. These are my thoughts on the thread over the last few days: I still think West Ham and Birmingham have strong squads on paper and should be the favourites though. Think Birmingham look good for promotion. Not a hope. If we stay up Hughton is a miracle-worker. We have the smallest squad in the division already with more (Foster, Ridgewell, Dann) to go in the Blues sale. Yeah been rumours that Birmingham have to flog off the entire team for a week or two now. Roll up, all available for peanuts. Good riddance in many cases, though yet another example of Premiership failure ending up being of benefit to the failures (players). They can go down knowing they'll get a new deal and signing-on fee elsewhere. And no doubt a loyalty bonus (hahahahahahahaha) from us too. I have to admit though I wouldn't trade my last 5 years for anything' date=' all the Euro trips, the FA Cup runs, everything. Overspending ftw. It's great fun, but eventually you'll come back down, the punishments just aren't matching the benefits of over spending. If like a couple of clubs wanted last year, that if you go into admin you get two relegations, would begin to put on the pressure to make sure clubs are going to be sustainable. They don't have to break even but the owners have to underwrite losses for a period of time. That's the issue, owners come in take all the fun, then bugger off when they aren't interested anymore.[/quote']We didn't even get to an FA Cup semi in our overspending era. So I'd def trade it all in for a solid club owned by local people with Birmingham city at heart. But I'm a dreamer and this is the modern world of football. Pop will indeed eat itself. Back to trivia... We're on the verge of signing Swiss international Gelson Fernandes from Saint-Etienne apparently. Played under SGE at ManCity. Great signing imho. I've been saying all along, West Ham are going to absolutely walk this league. Their squad for this level is ridiculous. I'm prepared to say that they won't. They had the worst team in the Prem last season, even with the Best Player in England Last Season (c. the London press). Their strike force is ordinary. Defence weak. Leicester look a much surer bet than West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop shot Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Birmingham rumours are interesting - thought they were going to be contenders. Only contenders for going out of business by the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 This is the first I've heard of this, is it really that serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChris Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Leicester close to signing Michael Johnson....another SGE favourite then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 The acting chairman(is that right?) Pannu? said that he would have to make some unpopular decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop shot Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 The acting chairman(is that right?) Pannu? said that he would have to make some unpopular decisions. Breathing is one of them. Blinking his eyes is another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop shot Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 This is the first I've heard of this, is it really that serious? Not by the weekend, but Administration is around the corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 yikes, sounds worse than pompey last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop shot Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Nothing is certain, but the board are not the most trustworthy of people, our ownwe in prison for starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDiCanio Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Bizarre in a good way though? Of course, as long as the Davids are happy to finance their wages. To the Reading fans, how likely are the Shane Long to join us rumours? Surely there will be prem clubs in for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik86 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Of course, as long as the Davids are happy to finance their wages. To the Reading fans, how likely are the Shane Long to join us rumours? Surely there will be prem clubs in for him? Rumours of West Brom and Liverpool. As far as I can understand West Brom offered £7M for him which was rejected and West Ham have offered £5M + £3M addons which was also rejected. If West Ham offered £8M up front I think he'd be yours by the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerChris Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Didn't Reading say yesterday they wouldn't sell to another Champ club? Obviously that may change if silly money was thrown at them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik86 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Didn't Reading say yesterday they wouldn't sell to another Champ club? Obviously that may change if silly money was thrown at them. They have said that in the past but I reckon in £8-9M was put in front of them they would go for it with Longy only having 1 year left on his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjani'sBootCleaner Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 They have said that in the past but I reckon in £8-9M was put in front of them they would go for it with Longy only having 1 year left on his contract. No-one will be offering that type of money with 1 year left on the contract tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDiCanio Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Wow theres no way I want us paying 8m+ for him. We're very thin up front but to break our transfer record on him would be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Leicester close to signing Michael Johnson....another SGE favourite then! At this rate, by the time the transfer window closes we are essentially just going to be the Manchester City side of 2008. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 PREDICTIONS 1 west ham united 2 leicester city 3 blackpool 4 reading 5 hull city 6 burnley* - play off winners 7 southampton 8 nottingham forest 9 cardiff city 10 brighton and hove albion 11 middlesbrough 12 leeds united 13 ipswich town 14 portsmouth 15 birmingham city 16 doncaster rovers 17 bristol city 18 millwall 19 watford 20 crystal palace 21 derby county 22 peterborough united 23 barnsley 24 coventry city obviously we'll lose to barnsley first game of the season and i'll look a complete prat, but just saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 that's assuming a 10 point deduction for birmingham but with less players sold i guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'll cry if we finish below Doncaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamJH Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 West Brom want Long if the fee is about £5m. Can't see us getting involved at £8m. The reason we became interested again is that it seemed like Reading were willing to lower their asking price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 after being written off so easily (favourites for relegation) last season i'd be surprised to see anyone do that again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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