Statistical Approach Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I thought this would be a good topic of discussion. Which players do you think that, in FM16, perform far better than in real life? An example would be Troy Deeney who can score 20+ Premiership goals but doesn't appear to be able to do that irl. Obviously the suggestions by definition would be good signings because it's about players who are performing well but you wouldn't expect that to be the case due to real life perceptions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpillBlood Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 At the end of the day Football Manager is a game so I find this topic a bit weird. But I'll join in why not. Matt Derbyshire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Depay seems to be a world beater in some of the feedback threads I have seen IRL far from it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneronaldo Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Callum Chambers is good enough to challenge Darmian as my best right back from the start of the game (1.5 seasons in he is already superior to Darmian in almost every aspect), IRL Wenger won't even play him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finners Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Ayoze Perez is basically world class on FM. I can't find a flaw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneronaldo Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Ayoze Perez is basically world class on FM. I can't find a flaw. Good for 20 goal seasons, consistently. Or maybe Steve McClaren is abit of a mug? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidelitywars Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Ayoze Perez is basically world class on FM. I can't find a flaw. Personally, I think Pérez is very well represented in FM. He's a real talent who's showing great promise in a team otherwise desperately short of guile and I fully expect him to be at a top club within the next year IRL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danm2501 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Planning an Overrated XI video? Alessio Cerci is fairly over-rated. Only managed 1 goal in 27 games since joining Milan on loan, but on FM this year he's an absolute beast. Scores 15+ goals a season, with the same number of assists to go with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Alessio Cerci is fairly over-rated. Only managed 1 goal in 27 games since joining Milan on loan, but on FM this year he's an absolute beast. Scores 15+ goals a season, with the same number of assists to go with it. Cerci's been overrated in FM since he first burst onto the scene back in FM09 seems to me like the Balotelli type, in that he's actually garbage irl, but works obscenely on an FM level due to some incredibly good attributes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rony B Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Dejan Lovren surely. He lacks concentration/composure & his decisions aren't great but almost everything else you need from a CB is good, and his media description is "commanding centre back". Had to throw him into my starting XI after Skrtel did his ACL and he was better than Sakho! Still going to sell him at the end of the season, solely on the basis that he's useless irl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Valhalla.. Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Dejan Lovren surely. Still going to sell him at the end of the season, solely on the basis that he's useless irl I do that for the same reason. Don't rate him IRL and for that reason I detest him in FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidelitywars Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Pogba's rating is a little overboard for me - best midfielder in the game by a fair distance when in reality, he's been largely poor this season now that he's expected to be the leader of the Juve midfield. His technical attributes are insane on FM despite the fact that he's not really a creative passer/playmaker at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityAndColour Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Depay seems to be a world beater in some of the feedback threads I have seen IRL far from it He has struggled this season (which is about a third complete) but you're talking about someone who has scored 40 times in his last two seasons and has 20 caps for Holland, at 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneronaldo Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Pogba's rating is a little overboard for me - best midfielder in the game by a fair distance when in reality, he's been largely poor this season now that he's expected to be the leader of the Juve midfield. His technical attributes are insane on FM despite the fact that he's not really a creative passer/playmaker at all. He is an absolute physical beast as well, last time I checked in FM15 his PA was well over even the likes of Isco/James Rodriguez:eek: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statistical Approach Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Planning an Overrated XI video? yes Some great suggestions so far. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigBoss Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 That Norwich striker Mbokani finished the season with 22 goals for Norwich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rony B Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Agree with Bellerin. Also Giuseppe Rossi looks a bit OP for someone who has hardly played in the last year and a half until recently. And then there's Wayne Rooney, who has higher finishing than Aubameyang, Muller & Diego Costa... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPlays Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Can't believe you've said Deeney Stat! D: hehe. In all fairness, his contribution elsewhere in real life is far more important than his amount of goals, but on FM hes a machine. Cerci is interesting, Im running at Milan save on YT and hes not really performed to that standard for me. I'd have to say Okazaki always seems to do well, possible shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treble_yell_:-) Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 He has struggled this season (which is about a third complete) but you're talking about someone who has scored 40 times in his last two seasons and has 20 caps for Holland, at 21. In the Eredivisie and for a Dutch National side that just failed to qualify for a major tournament. He has a ton to prove and he is nowhere near one the top 2-3 players in his position in world football. OT Erik Lamela. It really bugged me last year that in every Spurs save I did he quickly became one of the best AMR's in the game , scoring 20+ a season and getting 15 assists. His stats in game in no way reflect the player he is in real life and from my beta play it looks like this is happening again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATV Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Mbokani at Norwich is smashing them in on my game. He's been pelretty average in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFMWhizzkids Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Erik Lamela is far better in the game than currently in real life, although i agree he could be fantastic in real life, but he hasnt yet with Spurs hit the heights he does in Football Manager 2016. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Going to move this to GD .. it's a discussion, not a guide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Youri Tielemans is always bought early on in most users saves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 In the Eredivisie and for a Dutch National side that just failed to qualify for a major tournament.He has a ton to prove and he is nowhere near one the top 2-3 players in his position in world football. OT Erik Lamela. It really bugged me last year that in every Spurs save I did he quickly became one of the best AMR's in the game , scoring 20+ a season and getting 15 assists. His stats in game in no way reflect the player he is in real life and from my beta play it looks like this is happening again. the underlined is the crux of the matter he is more likely to be another nani than a CR7(he was getting up to that standard in FM15 getting 40 + goals a season from many of the users screenshots, he got 35 for me playing wide left...he wont reach double figures in real life and if LVG gets the money to bring in the attackers he needs in Jan he will be out on loan fairly soon ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigBoss Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Bellerin is a little OP for me. I love the guy in real life, but in game he can get you upwards of 15 assists in a season playing at right back. To be fair he's created 9 chances already from right back this season but then again I'm an arsenal fan and will probably defend him regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMT2013 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Obviously Balotelli has to be on this list! World beater on the game every year, mediocre egg beater in reality and I agree with Depay. My controversial choice would be Jack Wilshere. PS Love the videos StatApp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocuous Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Balotelli has tremendous ability in FM because he has tremendous ability in reality. He's not a joy to manage of the game at all though and I'm pretty sure his hidden attributes are terrible. His media-handling style says it all, Outspoken, Volatile, Confrontational, it says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Good for 20 goal seasons, consistently. Or maybe Steve McClaren is abit of a mug? Do think Perez is going to be a very good player in real life but yeah his starting attributes might be a tad high this year, he's currently got 26 goals and 7 assists in league for me in first season. In a squad that's not vastly different from Schteve's. Mind you think the majority of the FM Newcastle defense far outplay their real life counterparts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 yes to both posts 28 and 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonko Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 IMO pretty much most players that play in England/EPL are overrated. And I find it particularly funny when a player goes to an EPL team IRL and I see them get a boost in FM whenever a newer database/FM edition is released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artin Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Falcao One of the highest Current Ability in FM but is really a rarely-used sub in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dSquib Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 A lot of these are players who have had excellent seasons and some mediocre, sometimes for personality, circumstantial reasons or being simply misused by different managers. You can set the consistency and professionalism and adaptability attributes to low but still will never truly replicate these real life complications. If Balotelli were truly "mediocre" he couldn't do what he has done even in short spurts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matshit Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 IMO pretty much most players that play in England/EPL are overrated. And I find it particularly funny when a player goes to an EPL team IRL and I see them get a boost in FM whenever a newer database/FM edition is released. If I am not mistaken new PL-players are rated by people at their former club. So it is a player having a good season. Then the move to England and the boost to his stats both happens for that same reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMT2013 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 A lot of these are players who have had excellent seasons and some mediocre, sometimes for personality, circumstantial reasons or being simply misused by different managers. You can set the consistency and professionalism and adaptability attributes to low but still will never truly replicate these real life complications.If Balotelli were truly "mediocre" he couldn't do what he has done even in short spurts. My point with Balotelli is that in the game if controlled by the AI he is immense every game getting 30 goals a season every year, but as everyone stated he is extremely erratic in reality which clearly shows that the game is overrating him. Not in terms of ability as he is extremely talented but more overrated in his efficiency Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly Claret Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 At the end of the day Football Manager is a game so I find this topic a bit weird.But I'll join in why not. Matt Derbyshire. Couldn't agree more, he's basically the Championship Version of Harry Kane on my save scoring 4 goals against me in 2 games! which is more then he's scored in real life so far this season far!! Also Kiki for Middlesbrough!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statistical Approach Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 A lot of great stuff guys, outside of the Balo debate of course. Any more contributions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmtw Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Adam Lallana 3 and a half stars, way overrated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 every chelsea player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aditya Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 @Seahawks Chelsea players are fairly rated this version. Ivanovic and Terry is released on second season, fair play FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elanchez Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ashley young for me . Every year if I start a save with Manchester United Young is the first player I will sell but this year he has surprised me puts up good stats and gives assists consistently . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh381991 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 MEMPHIS DEPAY - Absolute beast for me but IRL . . .. . Nothing at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 anyone at spurs.. like every year, they are in and around the top 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigBoss Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 anyone at spurs.. like every year, they are in and around the top 4 Won the title on my save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggeorgiou01 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Frederico Fazio (Tottenham) - Rubbish in real life and 4 star superstar in FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statistical Approach Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 Still need a GK, LB and DMC Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PVPV Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Still need a GK, LB and DMC Thanks DMC? - Maikel Kieftenbeld Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PVPV Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 anyone at spurs.. like every year, they are in and around the top 4 Spurs have been my bogey team since the beginning of time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico_france Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Doria from Marseille, still an almost world beater, didn't get ONE single game IRL with Marseille, and playing really bad at Granada irl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statistical Approach Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 Spurs is a decent shout. Seen them win the league within two seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurs08 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 anyone at spurs.. like every year, they are in and around the top 4 CA wise we're not that good when you look in the editor. It's just a very balanced squad, some inviduals with very good attribute strength, and generally very fit and strong mentally. You could argue that we've just underachieved in real-life and been dragged down by bad influences in the dressing room we've now eliminated - some of these were too highly rated in the past but I think where we are in FM16 is a fair reflection on real-life where the bookies and several pundits now have us as the most likely team to secure 4th place this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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