IMT Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 A different kettle of fish as that is over two seasons. Ok then, 10 games unbeaten prior to xmas 2012, 4 wins in 22 for the rest of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I accept and agree with the subtle change thing but the thing that makes me slightly hesitant to tweak is the fact that your fluidity drops when you do. Fluidity doesn't change at all with role and duty changes. The hit is takes with instructions is minimal compared with the advantage a good change can give you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicko Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Well this is the first time in history this has happened Won the Championship on 101 points Got to the FA semi's Spent no money whatsoever Got all the pundits from supporters/former players Then new board comes along and sacks me saying they want their own man, what an absolute let down, never been sacked in any of the FM series ever lol EDIT: oh and the message before on the season review was they were delighted with my performance and job status-untouchable....strange Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM94 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Match engine on this is awful. Players miss tens of chances every game, easy chances as well. Match stats are ridiculous, for example 25 shots, 15 on target 1 goal. In another 17 shots, 8 on target. 0 goals. Shot conversion rate is wildly unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I am going to have my first whine of this release, brace yourself. It is somewhat annoying me that people, yes myself included are giving feedback on what they feel needs to be looked at and giving proper feedback, maybe even going to the trouble of posting screenshots or giving numerous examples are just being ignored, or at least not being acknowledged, the posts of people whining that they can not win however seem to get a lot more attention from the powers that be. Something not quite right there, maybe something else you guys can look at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I am going to have my first whine of this release, brace yourself.It is somewhat annoying me that people, yes myself included are giving feedback on what they feel needs to be looked at and giving proper feedback, maybe even going to the trouble of posting screenshots or giving numerous examples. It seems these posts are just being ignored, or at least not being acknowledged, the posts of people whining that they can not win however seem to get a lot more attention from the powers that be. Something not quite right there, maybe something else you guys can look at. Don't forget the real changes are brought about by bug reports and we know that people like you do them, SI rarely reply directly on here (PaulC excepted) and people like you don't need the attention of mere Mods who can't actually influence what happens in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicko Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 The probability of being sacked in that situation should have been very low, if you have a save shortly before the takeover process started then a post in the 'other issues' section of the bugs forum would be welcomed.Nice to see that you seen to have taken it on the chin though. LOL! suppose a first time for everything it's just never happened to me before they even gave me my first initial transfer budget of 27M and managing Birmingham I was getting excited (even got my back-room staff sorted) but in all fairness it does happen IRL where boards want their own man so thats realistic as a plus shame they didn't give me a crack haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isignedupfornorealreason Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I am going to have my first whine of this release, brace yourself.It is somewhat annoying me that people, yes myself included are giving feedback on what they feel needs to be looked at and giving proper feedback, maybe even going to the trouble of posting screenshots or giving numerous examples are just being ignored, or at least not being acknowledged, the posts of people whining that they can not win however seem to get a lot more attention from the powers that be. Something not quite right there, maybe something else you guys can look at. I understand how you feel, but I'm sure they take it on board, I hope so anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Bleh. Never one to moan but having my tactic go from pretty decent to lose every match after an update is unbearable. I was praising how well the beta went but this is rather annoying, especially in LLM where you have to tailor your squad to your tactics due to the wage restrictions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty1974 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Hey can anyone help me, my digitaly downloaded version of FM 2014 will not update to version 4.1.3 it still says beta, ive tried everything to try and update the game to it but to no avail anyone know what the problem is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierblue123 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Result Chelsea 0 Leeds (me) 0 a bore draw but a good result for Leeds I'd say. However, fans are devastated,,, they don't like losing to their rivals... what ? Leeds did not lose and to be honest that's a good result considering the gulf in class. In reality would the fans be devastated ? Why do they consider a draw to be a loss ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Don't forget the real changes are brought about by bug reports and we know that people like you do them, SI rarely reply directly on here (PaulC excepted) and people like you don't need the attention of mere Mods who can't actually influence what happens in the game. I always post in here AND in the bugs forum. Mainly because I've had my fair share of stuff posted in the bugs forum ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted November 1, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted November 1, 2013 I always post in here AND in the bugs forum. Mainly because I've had my fair share of stuff posted in the bugs forum ignored. What has been ignored in the past? What areas have you posted in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 What has been ignored in the past? What areas have you posted in? Tbf, there's been no issues with 14. Previous to that though, I had some threads that weren't acknowledged. I now post in both more out of habit than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richeh88 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 What have you done since the fullgame release? beta was great! Player ratings are strange. FULLBACKS no longer score above 6. players ratings starting to go under 5 quite frequently long range goals seem to happen more The subs bench, all morale abysmal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I always post in here AND in the bugs forum. Mainly because I've had my fair share of stuff posted in the bugs forum ignored. Fairs fair and I have to say I have not had any of my posts ignored on the bugs forum. I even posted 1 that I pretty much knew they could not fix, that was my close cam glitching, I knew they could not fix it as I seemed to be the only one complaining about it, still they responded and tried to recreate it, they even asked for more information but again could not get it sorted, they gave it the true boyscout effort though. Sorry but I can not knock the bug forums guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blala Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 is the current ME worth playing or it's game breaker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Is anyone else finding a truly staggering amount of shots off target? I get 20 or 25 shots a game with maybe 4 on target. They're "working it into the box", I have decent finishers up front. It's madness. I can't score to save my life. My players couldn't hit a bull in the bum with a double bass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 is the current ME worth playing or it's game breaker It is very much worth playing, you need more thought for your tactic and from time to time you will have to change your tactic. There are still 1 or 2 things I feel need looking in to but the game is solid and a lot of fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajsr1982 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Apologies if this has already been mentioned. When renewing a player's contract, and he asks for, say, £3k p/w, and I say 'That's a bit greedy', and offer him, say, £2.8k p/w, he then demands £3.5k p/w. I get this a lot (with different numbers of course). Is this a known issue? Seems like an illogical haggling method! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Surely you should be tailoring your tactics to your squad? That's the best way to control costs in the lower leagues. I have an intended way to play so to speak, using multiple tactics throughout a season. I've always found that to be a better way to tailor a squad to cover those tactics I wish to employ. Not that I've played many games in what is my third season. Perhaps it's just a bad run of form but going from fluid and top dogs to a leaky sink is odd, even my more defensive tactics don't seem to be having a desired effect. Maybe morale has a bigger part to play this time around? May be nothing more than an infuriating night talking but some of the hilarity I've seen tonight has baffled me. Seeing my keeper head the ball (in his own area) straight to an opposing player for him to run it in was baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlm_77 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Is there any way to stop the constant repetitive scouting reports...jeez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM94 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 31 shots 7 on target 0 goals. Come on. This is stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarin1 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Wow the player ratings, the missed shots, the domination of teams where oppositon keepers stop 14 + shots on target a game. fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 "Bob recommends speaking to him passionately about this" Click talk. Passionately greyed out. Jesus freaking wept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajsr1982 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 31 shots7 on target 0 goals. Come on. This is stupid. I'm inclined to agree with you, however, your post lacks credibility because: a) You fail to mention if this is a persistent issue. In reality, it could happen as a one off. b) You may have looked, but you might want to provide some more information. Is this because your players are shooting from 30 yards incessantly? Do you maybe need to tell your players to work the ball into the box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Santa Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Far too many corner goals on my game since the update. I'm getting 1-2 corner goals either against or for me per game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 31 shots7 on target 0 goals. Come on. This is stupid. Do I have to keep using Norwich as an example? Last week v Cardiff 31 shots, 6 on target 0 goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Is there any way to stop the constant repetitive scouting reports...jeez As you employ the scouts I'd say that's a yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 is the current ME worth playing or it's game breaker Yeah, the actual game play seems better to me, strikers not just blazing 10 miles over anymore, only issues I have found since 14.1.3 is the player ratings are ridiculously low, and half my side are suddenly unhappy and want to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Cool Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Tbf, there's been no issues with 14. Previous to that though, I had some threads that weren't acknowledged. I now post in both more out of habit than anything. I think the mods and the SI guys have been excellent at providing feedback and gratitude on bug reports, and at keeping a really positive bug hunting process going in order to improve the game - which is what we're all interested in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 There's a very important rule that applies in LLM & that's to keep it simple. Many of us might love watching Bayern, Dortmund or Arsenal but too many fall for the trap of trying to emulate those styles in the lower leagues & tbh it is getting increasingly more difficult to pull of as lower league players tend to do stupid things when we over-complicate the tactics. I never try to over-complicate, just a firm believer in having at least 3 tactics for switching. Maybe head back to the drawing board as it does seem to be alot of individual errors that are leading to these short comings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relik Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Whats with the loading screen take ages now to load the game I almost learn all 14 loading language Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSevensM75 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Is anyone noticing an extreme increase in the amount of red cards on match day? I haven't had one yet for my team but every Premiership round at the moment there appear to be three or four sending offs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlm_77 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 As you employ the scouts I'd say that's a yes Not reports I ask for, just constant 'updates' from scouts...never used to get them so regularly and they don't seem to change! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlm_77 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Is anyone noticing an extreme increase in the amount of red cards on match day? I haven't had one yet for my team but every Premiership round at the moment there appear to be three or four sending offs. Yes. Not just in Prem either. I've just been with Wolves in the Championship after winning promotion and it's the same there too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relik Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Whats with the loading screen take ages now to load the game I almost learn all 14 loading language P.S. The Steam workshop still taking ages to load don't freeze now but you will wait ages I gave up after 15 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Whats with the loading screen take ages now to load the game I almost learn all 14 loading language I am sure I read that somewhere before, oh yeah you posted the same just moments earlier. For what it is worth I have no such problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Match engine on this is awful.Players miss tens of chances every game, easy chances as well. Match stats are ridiculous, for example 25 shots, 15 on target 1 goal. In another 17 shots, 8 on target. 0 goals. Shot conversion rate is wildly unrealistic. Norwich had over 25 shots on goal, 9 of them on target, against Cardiff a week or so back, and drew 0-0. EDIT - Whoops, someone beat me to it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Norwich had over 25 shots on goal, 9 of them on target, against Cardiff a week or so back, and drew 0-0. In all fairness the shots on goal ratio is a bit off, teams can dominate play and have a large amount of shots on goal without winning, while you can name 1 example I myself have went 3 or 4 games with such an advantage and lost all those games, or maybe squeezed out a draw. The fact you name 1 game as an example just proves more that it should not happen on a regular occurrence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrySmutts Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 SI Thanks for the rapid update it has improved the game dramatically and it is a lot more playable, the speed in which it was update shows in itself that you realised that game had serious flaws a lot of these have been a lot better but I do feel a bit more improvement is needed mainly with the match engine. I know there are mixed views on it but I have played this game since it was first brought out and the sheer volume of posts on some of these as well as my experience in the game tells me that the gamers have a point and that it is still too difficult to beat the AI I know tactics need tweaking and improvising etc etc but there are lots of times when you can see the flaws in the game lower league teams hitting 1 shot and elite teams with 30 shots on target and the LLT winning 1-0 and although this is feasible the sheer volume of times its happening and the way in which people are experiencing it ie watching the game and the misses and the way the players move etc takes away this likelihood and for me it is definitely an issue possibly with ME that needs looking at. I'm trying to be constructive with my comments so you can improve the game and therefore I get to play a better product and the update that has been fired out already is a huge step in the right direction, so for that I say thanks. I do wonder however how you could release a game with these flaws, before the internet this would not be able to be amended and this game would be unplayable and your reputation tarnished on which many years of great FM games stand its evident that you needed to update it as I said or there wouldn't have been an update 1 day later. So thanks for the update and I hope to get another one real soon and I know your probably working round the clock to provide so I can play a game which I love, have grown up with and I can feel that it's £34.99 well spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I allowed Monaco to sign Griezmann so I could see his contract details before I reloaded and offered him my own contract. Here's their contract: http://i.imgur.com/494iWq9.png Here's what would've been required for him to play for Arsenal: http://i.imgur.com/fDrMuhE.png Why the ridiculous increase in appearance fee and especially unused substitute fee? Why does the AI consistently get a considerably greater deal when buying and selling players than we do? His contract at Monaco is for an extra year, so perhaps that's why he accepted lesser bonuses elsewhere. He's also got a release clause of just 11.75 mill if the club are relegated. Unlikely, but with Monaco, you never know. It's not a like for like contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineappleBlender Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Been messing around with the editor and IGE to make a ridiculously overpowered player as I tend to do each year (pushing the limits of what 200CA will get you is fun!)... striker finishing on 1-on-1s looks like it still needs to be looked at. A striker through on goal, 20 finishing, 20 composure, and so on should not be constantly missing them by shooting at the keeper from a foot away. This is while he's a world class striker against L1 keepers. The general scoreline is looking like it should, and it is interesting to note that a single such striker can't carry a team quite like he could in FM12 (where you could literally win the prem off the back of his work). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 SI Thanks for the rapid update it has improved the game dramatically and it is a lot more playable, the speed in which it was update shows in itself that you realised that game had serious flaws a lot of these have been a lot better All that was changed in the main game in this last patch was the player ratings for defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talty31 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Anyone else noticing too many goals from crosses?.... Thanks SI for the most part loving the game so far , once I sort my results out!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrySmutts Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 All that was changed in the main game in this last patch was the player ratings for defenders. so from 160+ Mb they just changed the player ratings in the immortal wods of Barney Rubble "I'm with you Fred" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 so from 160+ Mb they just changed the player ratings in the immortal wods of Barney Rubble "I'm with you Fred" He meant that all they changed in the ME was the ratings, of course other things were changed but not ME related. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM94 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Doesn't happen every week though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM94 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Norwich had over 25 shots on goal, 9 of them on target, against Cardiff a week or so back, and drew 0-0.EDIT - Whoops, someone beat me to it! Doesn't happen every week though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 so from 160+ Mb they just changed the player ratings in the immortal wods of Barney Rubble "I'm with you Fred" Have you even looked at the changelist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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