Jongi Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 So it seems 2 more goals means Klose becomes the all time leading goal scorer in WC history. If Klose gets to it, in time will history relegate him to being a striker as good as Ronaldo, or God forbid better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Riccardo Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 he will never be as good as the real Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7zige Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo is still wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better even if he beats his record IMO The more I think of it the more stupid the question seems tbh..Gonna stop thinking of it now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 delete - i think i had not refreshed before starting this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo was the best striker in the world for almost a decade however, for some reason I would pick Miroslav Klose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 No - as good as Klose is - and hes very good and does or should go down as a great player. But Ronaldo is a one in a generation kind of player and Klose does not fit that bracket! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uquillas Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo in his prime was the best Forward probably since Pele. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 lol . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo anyday of the week. Ronaldo was a top world class player. Klose is a very good player, who has raised his game at the WC- but even that can't make you world class as far as I'm concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 No - as good as Klose is - and hes very good and does or should go down as a great player. But Ronaldo is a one in a generation kind of player and Klose does not fit that bracket! This to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Which Ronaldo? Oh, the fat one. Nah, he's still better than Klose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I'd even say Cristiano is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 But he didn't score unfortunately. Whether he's a striker is another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radestock Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Had it not been for the double knee injury I can only imagine Ronaldo would now be up there with the all time best. Quite sad that we didn't see him develop unhindered really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Do we know the goals/games stat for the two players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blurps11 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Last I checked it was about opportunities and performances, not potential. Otherwise players like Nii Lamptey, Kalusha Bwalya and the great Osei Kofi would be up there with the Beckenbauers and Peles. If Klose scores two more goals he will be the most successful scorer in World Cup history, and the best one too. It's not like Ronaldo received any worse support by his team... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Do we know the goals/games stat for the two players? From Wikipedia's figures. Miroslav Klose Club: Appearances: 402 Goals: 162 Goals-to-games Ratio: 0.4 Country: Appearances: 100 Goals: 52 Goals-to-games Ratio: 0.52 Total: Appearances: 502 Goals: 214 Goals-to-games Ratio: 0.42 Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima Club: Appearances: 501 Goals: 347 Goals-to-games Ratio: 0.69 Country: Appearances: 97 Goals: 62 Goals-to-games Ratio: 0.63 Under 23's Appearances: 8 Goals: 6 Goals-to-games Ratio 0.75 Total: Appearances: 606 Goals: 415 Goals-to-games Ratio: 0.68 Ronaldo has a much greater goals to game ratio, but Klose's is very prolific too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo was great, but I like Klose much more (I don't think he is better, I just like him more). Klose has brilliant of the ball movement and is a proper team player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I meant just in the World Cup Thanks anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnabon09 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo is the best striker since Pele and might even have been better. No other striker can compare to him. If he had been fit for the final in 1998 and won that he might have gone down as one of the great. Injuries and poor professionalism also hinderered probably the most talented player of his generation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Klose: 3 (Saudi Arabia, 2002) 1 (Republic of Ireland, 2002) 1 (Cameroon, 2002) 2 (Costa Rica, 2006) 2 (Ecuador, 2006) 1 (Argentina, 2006) 1 (Australia, 2010) 1 (England, 2010) 2 (Argentina, 2010) Ronaldo: 1 (Morocco, 1998) 2 (Chile, 1998) 1 (The Netherlands, 1998) 1 (Turkey, 2002) 1 (China People's Republic, 2002) 2 (Costa Rica, 2002) 1 (Belgium, 2002) 1 (Turkey, 2002, rematch) 2 (Germany, 2002) 2 (Japan, 2006) 1 (Ghana, 2006) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I meant just in the World Cup Thanks anyway. In that case, and if FIFA's records for World Cups doesn't update appearances until after the finals as well as not updating goals, then it's: Ronaldo: Matches played: 19 Goals: 15 GTG: 0.78 Klose: Matches: 18 Goals: 14 GTG: 0.77 Practically identical at the moment. Interestingly. If Klose scores at least once in the next game and Germany progress to the final with him scoring again, he'll be ahead on the goals to games count as well as overall goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud van Nistelrooy Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo was basically the perfect striker. Klose's record is admirable and he is a very good striker, but he is not up there with Ronaldo and no-one will remember him as such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACou2000 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo > RvN > Klose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMOZZA Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I'd just like to throw in that Ronaldo has 2 winners medals (Albeit he didn't contribute in '94) & Klose has none (Yet). IMO that has to count for something, now if Germany go on to win this Tournament it could be worth talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 No player from this generation (or is Ronaldo the last generation now?) beats Ronaldo for me. Klose is fantastic, but Ronaldo is/was a superstar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo appeared in 1993 so I think we can count him as the past generation now, although since he hasn't retired yet (retires next year), it's not totally wrong to say he is from the current generation either. And for me, out of the strikers I watched, only Romário would be above Ronaldo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 ronaldo of course klose is very good, especially in world cups, but don't forget he scored a lot against saudi arabia in 2002 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 ronaldo of courseklose is very good, especially in world cups, but don't forget he scored a lot against saudi arabia in 2002 A lot? He scored a hat trick. It's not really all that more than Ronaldo having scored a brace in several games is it? Ronaldo scored 2 goals in 4 games. Klose scored 2 goals in 3 games & 3 goals in 1 game. Not really all that much difference at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pires777 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ronaldo was just the sort of player who you watched and knew you were experiencing something phenomenal. His ability was just unbelievable, he really was the keepers nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Ronaldo > RvN > Klose This RvN is my favourite striker of all time, but Ronaldo was still better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamos5000 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Ronaldo > Batistuta > RvN > Klose, tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Duncan Ferguson > Pele > Ronaldo > Batistuta > RvN = Klose obviously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjerome Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 not a discussion ffs. ronaldo when able was a genuine phenomenon who could destroy teams single handedly. not a slight on klose by any means who is a fine striker himself but ronaldo is of legendary timeless level status to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nistelrooy_uk_10 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Baffled that this has evolved into a discussion tbf. Ronaldo ***** on klose so much. Ronaldo the best ive ever seen (in my generation). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnabon09 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Baffled that this has evolved into a discussion tbf. Ronaldo ***** on klose so much. Ronaldo the best ive ever seen (in my generation). not much of a discussion really. pretty much everyone saying ronaldo is/was better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamos5000 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Duncan Ferguson > Pele > Ronaldo > Batistuta > RvN = Klose obviously I forgot Big Dunc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyu Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Pointless discussion really. No one disputes Fat Ronaldo being an all time great. And this is Klose's chance at immortality. Nike must be banging their hands at the wall for not able to wrench the German football team contract from Adidas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 A lot?He scored a hat trick. It's not really all that more than Ronaldo having scored a brace in several games is it? Ronaldo scored 2 goals in 4 games. Klose scored 2 goals in 3 games & 3 goals in 1 game. Not really all that much difference at all. i was a bit over the top, yes, with a lot, but saudi arabia is a mother, like we say in brazil. i'm not contesting that klose is a very good striker ronaldo was 95 kg when he scored 3 goals in 2006 by the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo_rune Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Klose's a better player. Ronaldo's a better star. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Oh dear... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7zige Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Klose's a better player. Ronaldo's a better star. Hah.....:D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Ronaldo better IRL, but I always bought Klose on CM01/02! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluckaDuck Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Ronaldo's better but Klose is doing his chances no harm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBKalle Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Ronaldo at his peak was the best striker of his generation, and all-time best material. Sadly his body couldn't withstand the wear and tear for much longer, and his career was noticeably shortened, at least in terms of quality. Klose is a great poacher, but really the comparison in a bit outlandish, despite the WC goals stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lermon Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Klose is great. If only he were English.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Klose is great. If only he were English.. Then he'd be *****, obviously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 He'd probably be 3rd choice behind Heskey if he was English Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Ronaldo of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 this kind of thread and the other one makes me wonder how historically short sighted some people are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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