knap Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 4231 has been FM Base tested. BEOWULF 442 BM 433 DM is on tactic list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypandy44 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 So hows the recomended list looking atm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 4231 is 5th sub top which is decent for 4231. Recommendations are still same but excludes new tactics. Still waiting for MR L to start testing. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClairvoyanT Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Im wondering did you watch some games while you testing your tactics? Because in my opinion its not all about winning im also want to see beautiful football. Thanks for answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypandy44 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Lets face it. Its all about winning 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 It would be difficult to quantify the aesthetic value of a tactic. These tactics tend to be higher possession than most, but not as high as many would desire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I just hope next patch will allow AMC to do AMC things. Not optimistic though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 6 hours ago, knap said: Stargazing 442 FM20.2STARGAZING442PFPWMSPKnapP1106ECFA.fmf 45.03 kB · 113 downloads It's very similar to the FM19's tactic WULF 442 PF, and it's as good as the previous one. In the red box is the record of the new tactic, before that, it's the record of your other tacitcs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinardier8282 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) Great start with BEOWULF 442 , just tweaked the DL in higher Edited December 17, 2019 by pinardier8282 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffpunch89 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Any individual player instructions or a corner structure for the new fm20 Sicilian tactic ? Come on it’s Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypandy44 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Haha, this ME is crazy bad lol 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfclee27 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 hours ago, DavyDepuydt1 said: I've done 3 different holiday seasons. I'm getting better results with SypathyLeipzigKnap v1 than with the mafia424 (in my chelsea test and my belgian third division weakest team test). Liverpool test is about the same. One of the better tactics I've tried, but with my holidaying tests, SypathyLeipzigKnap v1 still is the best for me just downloaded this one and I agree working really well at the moment but early days... Any tips for using this tactic Davy ? Im with a lower league team so inverted wingers and complete wing backs are hard to find !!! Any attributes to focus on etc.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Sicilian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffpunch89 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, knap said: Sicilian Knap Santa better bring you everything you want ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jdubsnz Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 16/12/2019 at 19:56, knap said: Sicilian P101 and FM 20.2 Northern Soul are tested ti be best underdog CA 120 Tactics. 1 win, 1 draw, 3 losses using these two tactics with Crystal Palace. Finding ball over the top gets us every time. Just not finding this game enjoyable at all this year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffpunch89 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Hi Knap are are there any specific attacking corner or free kick instructions for Sicilian ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 I will post them soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Drop the DL a notch or two Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Knap fan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 hours ago, knap said: which player will take the corner? By position or determined by ai？ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdubsnz Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 8 hours ago, knap said: Drop the DL a notch or two Do you mean on Sicilian and Northern Soul? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BePlus Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Tested Beowulf 442 (Attack) & Wulf 4132 (Attack). My personal feedback will be as follow: Beowulf 442 will have plenty of attacking chances, but give up a lot of chances for oppositions as well. Great attacking football but can't get results consistently (even for big teams like Man City). Wulf 4132 seems more "balance" (between Att/Def) and better overall tactics. I have got amazing back to back comebacks against big teams (using Everton) with 10 men!!! Just adjust to play 4131 (remove 1 striker) on positive/cautious mentality. Currently, I am sticking to this tactic even for my Man City home games against smaller clubs. Great set pieces too! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 @knap I'm playing with Sympathy v1 and really enjoying it. just had a questions, would I need to look for the best players in the position/role that is selected for the tactic? or should I look for other players, because the players play different than the selected role because of the PI's that are set? So will good segundo volantes do best in the DM segundo volante slot, or do I need another type of player? (I know TFF for his tactics mostly recommends other type of players than the role that is selected in the tactic, which makes it kinda hard & confusing) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 There is a risk playing a high DL and if your defenders cannot deal with the balls over the top, try dropping DL down to lower if necessary for any tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) I would ignore roles, apart from training, just try to use greentsh for position. For a DM you will find players that can play both MC and DM position, they may are may not be good volantes Edited December 18, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 When you look at basic PI for roles there is no real difference from a player point of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, knap said: I would ignore roles, apart from training, just try to use greentsh for position. For a DM you will find players that can play both MC and DM position, they may are may not be good volantes Ok so what you are saying is, just look if they can play in that position, and take the best player for that position, and ignore the role suitability? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 That is easiest way without going into if they attributes to play position. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Surely Stargazing will go straight to top of treating league! It is amazing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Spikester said: Surely Stargazing will go straight to top of treating league! It is amazing! Not for sure at all. All Knap tactics are kind of amazing. No other 442 has beaten 4132 Wulf P112 yet on recommended list, not since FM18 AFAIK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 Which version of 4132 as I want to try and update that formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsca_0606 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 which set of three tactics you recommend for ac milan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 My results with Stargazing so far: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics) FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101 FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 FM 20 ARGUS 352 FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) P106 FM 20 SICILIAN 4222 P98 FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141 FM 20 SYMPATHY 442 FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2 BEOWULF 442 P107 FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2 FM 20.2 WULF 4132 FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220 FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221 OXFORD BLUE MATTER 433 DM 451 BLUE MATTER 433 4231 WULF 424 Edited December 18, 2019 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp4rtak22 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) Knap is there a need to teach players roles? Edited December 18, 2019 by sp4rtak22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 I don't over a season test. Playing the role and training role should improve decisions so long term worthwhile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotPennysBoat Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I've tried several tactics now, with several teams Sympathy 442 Leipzig tweak, with Lille, Beowulf 442 With Brentford (Several seasons in, in the Prem with a Europa League quality team) and Stargazing 442 with HSV in the 2nd Bundesliga and I have the exact same issues, with every team, on every save, with every tactic. Home games are absolutely terrible. Below 40% possession, getting absolutely smashed by smaller teams. Doing quite well away though. And, the most annoying of them all, I have about 20-30 shots with only 2-3 on target, and about 15-20 off target every game - Home and away -. These things happen with every tactic, on every save. Anyone know what the issues might be, because this is really starting to annoy me. Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 If you send me your game I will try and take a look, although busy this time of year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) FM 20.2 Tactics NEW TACTICS FM 20.2 STARGAZING 442 P106 FM20.2STARGAZING442PFPWMSPKnapP1106ECFA.fmf FM 20.2 STARGAZING 4231 P95 FM20.2STARGAZINGKnap 4231P95.fmf FM20.2 SICILIAN P101 FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads OXFORD 41221 FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads BEOWULF 442 P107 FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf44.84 kB · 1,276 downloads WULF 4132 P106 FM20.2WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20.2P106ECCC.fmf45.23 kB · 879 downloads NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101 FM20.2NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P101CC.fmf45.36 kB · 872 downloads FM 20.1 Tactics RECOMMENDED LIST WULF 4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog) FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf45.22 kB · 522 downl 4132 WULF ALL CUPS P102 (Top Sub top underdog) FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBAPDLPKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf45.19 kB · 406 downloadsoads 4141 P103 (top sub top underdog) FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads 442 P102 FM20WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCCFM20P102ECCC.fmf44.85 kB · 553 downloads 4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top FM20Tequilasunrise442.knaplassTHP93EC.fmf44.98 kB · 152 downloads 442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98 FM20SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP98ALLCUPS.fmf45.09 kB · 252 downloads ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads BLUE MATTER 433 DM P98 (Top) FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 59 downloads BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top) FM20BLUEMATTER433KnapP105FACC.fmf43.28 kB · 372 downloads SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC.fmf45.01 kB · 39 downloads 442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44. 442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top ) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzigvol2.fmf44.91 kB · 957 downloads 442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.88 kB · 812 downloads 4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103 FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaip4132P102ECFA.fmf45.04 kB · 144 downloads 4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol24132P97ECFATHP91.fmf45.04 kB · 95 downloads 4132 GOODBYE P101 FM20GOODBYE4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP101.fmf45.17 kB · 284 downloads BLUE MATTER 451 P98 FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 76 downloads WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103 !!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101FM20P103.fmf44.71 kB · 215 downloads 442 (sub top) Bayer 04 19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads WULF 4141 FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf45.1 kB · 381 downloads WULF 4231 P102 ECCC FM20WULFKnap4231NEP102ECCC.fmf44.71 kB · 383 downloads 41311 Leeds FM20 PILGRIMAGE41311 leftbKnapKonP52.fmf45.16 kB · 31 downloads Edited December 18, 2019 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamonSalvatore Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Hi Knap, Which of your tactics has the least goals conceded in 38 games? I love keeping clean sheets and winning 1-0, so i’m looking for the best tactic defensively. In FM19 I was a big fan of your Pilgrimage and Argus 451. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Even you parked the bus the opponents will find a way with one CCC to win you. My opinion this year is that the current ME is the worst ever. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crronaldo Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Is there any formation without forward/winger emulating Spain euro 2012 tactics! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycjames Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 please can someone link me the sympathy thats number 2 on the test list? there are so many sympathy that i am confused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Knap would you say Stargazing is better than Sicilian? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 I can win PL with Spurs with Sicilian but not yet tried with Stargazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 at back concede the lest. In general Northern Soul 532 Argus 352 then with 4 at back Wulf 4141 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Knap in a 2 striker system, would you prefer 2 fast strikers, or can 1 be of the Target striker kind? (and would that Target striker be the AF or PF in the sympathy tactic) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 I would prefer 2 fast and the more creative or target man , who could have pace, on left which would be PF S. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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