aiston Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Munir Should have scored twice already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Bravo definitely had his weetbix this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelaidean Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Pique so desperate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Not a chance Rafa willingly picked that line-up (still deserves criticising for not standing up to Pérez on it though) There you go, what would Perez know about picking a line up? No holding midfielder against Barcelona is just ridiculous, theres no way Barca would start without Busquets just because its the derby and they have some divine right to attack and win comfortably as Perez probably thinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Is this why Casemiro didn't start, although he is having a very good season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Pique so desperate I really wanted him to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Is this why Casemiro didn't start, although he is having a very good season? Well that's the rumour, but i'd be inclined to believe it. Theres surely no way Rafa willingly picks that team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Barcelona easily deserving the win but Claudio Bravo had some superb saves in the 2nd half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Well that's the rumour, but i'd be inclined to believe it. Theres surely no way Rafa willingly picks that team. It's a shame if true, one would expect the biggest football institution in the world to be more professional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 It's a shame if true, one would expect the biggest football institution in the world to be more professional. This is Real Madrid you're talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Barcelona easily deserving the win but Claudio Bravo had some superb saves in the 2nd half Yeah, at important times too. Madrid were terrible and would probably have lost regardless but Bravo was excellent in preventing them even getting any hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This is Real Madrid you're talking about. Yes, but still...one thing is to make lots of silly signings as they used to, another thing is to have the board directly interfere in the line-up this way. Fans were apparently chanting stuff demanding that Benítez be sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudge7 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Decent stuff from Barca there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_rm Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 No, changed my mind about attending this one too. I've hired a car and decided to travel a bit further. Still in Murcia though as I'm currently at the B team's match!Got a couple of matches pencilled in for tomorrow too. Ah, how were the B team? Got some good players there. This is the website for all lower league info in Murcia (sorry, didn't see your second post before): http://www.trecera.com I should have posted some bars and restaurants and stuff if you're in Murcia for a bit, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon! Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Ah, how were the B team? Got some good players there. This is the website for all lower league info in Murcia (sorry, didn't see your second post before): http://www.trecera.comI should have posted some bars and restaurants and stuff if you're in Murcia for a bit, sorry. They were comfortable from my inexperienced Spanish football eye - although Plus Ultra had a man harshly sent off when it was 1-0. Was a bit disappointed with today's weather compared to yesterday - it started raining just as I turned up and there's no cover there! I'd say there was about 250 there and there was quite a cheer when Murcia scored so they were well represented. I'd have loved to find out the thoughts of the locals when they saw the slightly sunburned, obvious foreigner in attendance. Cheers for the link, I also managed to find a website that covers the preferente leagues - such was my desperation to see if I could catch a game this morning! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Benitez too good for Real Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Ramos' defending for Barca's first was Skrtel like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Yes, but still...one thing is to make lots of silly signings as they used to, another thing is to have the board directly interfere in the line-up this way.Fans were apparently chanting stuff demanding that Benítez be sacked. They've been doing that to every manager for as long as I can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 What a great display by Barca yesterday Must be really demoralizing for Real that Barca don't even need Messi to beat them up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Think the players have got Benitez the sack with a pathetic "effort" yesterday. Fully expect Carlo to return there soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Carlo won't return, not after he was binned by Perez. Perez deserves all he gets for once again having another awful period in charge of the club. No way is he winning the next elections. Best thing Real can do, is Ronaldo/Perez go in summer, new President comes in and hires a manager that has potential of a long term (3-4 years) of implementing a good attacking style of play and they start a post Ronaldo era. Team just lost all shape over the past few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Can pass the blame around all you want, but when it comes down to it they were just undone by a great Barcelona. They don't have players like Neymar and Suarez, who are in the form of their life and combining perfectly. Add Messi to that and it's just really hard to compete with that. Real Madrid will still trash most teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crplz Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 hires a manager that has potential of a long term (3-4 years) That didn't exactly happen last time Perez was out. The fans have as little patience as the President, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The Real team was pretty good between 2010-2014ish, it's just become very disjointed now. The team of Ronaldo at his peak, with Ozil, Di Maria etc was very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 They weren't that much different, that team still had its terrible moments but its easier to forget now things are so different. Ancelotti had his team very positive and pretty fun to watch for the most part. They were only 2 points off Barca last season don't forget and they obliterated them in the Classico 3-1. They just made a poor choice sacking him, he was well liked by the whole squad and football in general and replaced him with a "tactician" manager that will bore you to sleep and is just happy to keep a clean sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I think Mourinho's 2012 team was the best of the lot and quite a lot better than they are now. Won the league and could easily have won the CL that year with a bit more luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I wouldn't argue with that. Probably up there in the top 3 Real seasons since I started watching them, easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I'd hardly call 3-1 obliterated? But yeah they were really good then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The scoreline has nothing to do with that observation though, like if Barca played the same yesterday and only won 1-0 they still obliterated them. From what I can remember Real could have won that game 6-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Yeah you're forgetting some of the chances Barcelona missed as well then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Munir could have had 2 goals, never mend mentioning the other chances missed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 That didn't exactly happen last time Perez was out. The fans have as little patience as the President, etc. That's true. Just looked and in around 13 years of Perez being President they've won the league 3 times. Shocking stat. Won it twice in the 3 year gap when he wasn't president Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Munir could have had 2 goals, never mend mentioning the other chances missed no these last couple of posts were about the 3-1 from last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Anyway I just checked the line-up of that 3-1, where Real Madrid outplayed Barcelona, and it was the same attacking line-up as this weekend. So don't see why Benitez should get the blame of not fielding Casimero, he probably looked at what had worked best against Barcelona and decided to try the same thing. Obviously Barcelona have improved massively since that game so it didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 There's zero chance that Rafa has went out on his own free will and set the team up like that. It goes against every single thing the man stands for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 So he stands for allowing club directors making his decisions for him? Rubbish, don't believe that for a second. The moment someone tells him "this is your line-up for the clasico", is surely the moment he resigns and tells the media what a load of rubbish that club is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb_lesnar Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Anyway I just checked the line-up of that 3-1, where Real Madrid outplayed Barcelona, and it was the same attacking line-up as this weekend. So don't see why Benitez should get the blame of not fielding Casimero, he probably looked at what had worked best against Barcelona and decided to try the same thing. Obviously Barcelona have improved massively since that game so it didn't work. Completely different scenario and a very poor argument to defend Benitez. So he stands for allowing club directors making his decisions for him? Rubbish, don't believe that for a second. The moment someone tells him "this is your line-up for the clasico", is surely the moment he resigns and tells the media what a load of rubbish that club is? It might not be that explicit, but decisions such as constantly playing an underperforming Bale, benching Navas (second best goalkeeper at the World Cup) in favour of a (clearly past his best) Iker and now having Carvajal playing second fiddle to a mediocre Danilo are clearly not tactical and have got to be linked to Florentino Perez somehow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Loads of managers make weird choices in the eyes of fans, as if this is something new. Mourinho has been a bit baffling all season, do you think he'd let someone else dictate the line-up to him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkraver13 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Man, that was a great weekend. Always expected us to win, but 4-0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb_lesnar Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Loads of managers make weird choices in the eyes of fans, as if this is something new. Mourinho has been a bit baffling all season, do you think he'd let someone else dictate the line-up to him? Mourinho is an awful example. For all of his msitakes during this season at least he has had the balls to bench players if they are underperforming or not showing commitment for the team. Ancelotti allowed the team to party after losing 0-4 against Atletico and Benitez allowed a free training day today after the horrific match we all witnessed. However, i don't believe that Benitez is being told who to line-up directly. He has a problem with the squad and he's rapidly losing respect from them, when it should be the other way around. The signing policy of Real Madrid has taken its toll on and now managers have got to deal with the likes of Bale or Ronaldo who just won't accept to be benched even if they haven't done absolutely nothing the whole year. Only Florentino Perez has all the blame on the creation of this environment. Of course this is only one axis of the problem, and Benitez should take the bull by its horns and have the guts to make decisions based of tactical factors, without the fear of being sacked clouding his mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkraver13 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-match/60/post/2719462/barcelona-team-vision-too-much-for-disjointed-real-madrid Now Barcelona turn up to Madridista HQ and regularly win by handsome margins. In fact, they continue to get more handsome by the decade. They won 3-0 10 years ago, followed by a smattering of comfortable two-goal victories and that epoch-marking 6-2 win under Pep Guardiola in 2009. BARCELONA REGULARLY PLAY THIS AWAY FIXTURE AS IF THEY WERE AT GETAFE OR MALAGA. In fact, they play it with fewer problems. And now Saturday's 4-0 win. Part of the advantage that Barca's group of footballers possess is mental, part of it is technical. Lots of these guys now treat a visit to the Santiago Bernabeu as a glee-club trip. Pack your luggage, meet the gang, go somewhere special, have a lovely time, nip home and tell the friends and family about a weekend well spent. Love the article! Puta Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Most of it is probably down to just being the best team of the past decade by a pretty large margin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb_lesnar Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-match/60/post/2719462/barcelona-team-vision-too-much-for-disjointed-real-madridNow Barcelona turn up to Madridista HQ and regularly win by handsome margins. In fact, they continue to get more handsome by the decade. They won 3-0 10 years ago, followed by a smattering of comfortable two-goal victories and that epoch-marking 6-2 win under Pep Guardiola in 2009. BARCELONA REGULARLY PLAY THIS AWAY FIXTURE AS IF THEY WERE AT GETAFE OR MALAGA. In fact, they play it with fewer problems. And now Saturday's 4-0 win. Part of the advantage that Barca's group of footballers possess is mental, part of it is technical. Lots of these guys now treat a visit to the Santiago Bernabeu as a glee-club trip. Pack your luggage, meet the gang, go somewhere special, have a lovely time, nip home and tell the friends and family about a weekend well spent. Love the article! Puta Madrid That's extremely oportunistic. Just last year Barcelona got owned at the Bernabeu. In fact last sunday was the first time in over 4 years Barca won by a higher margin than 2 goals to Real Madrid. Dominating? Yes, but the whole Bernabeu being an easy trip is just bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Go easy on him, he's just an excited fanboy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A absolute joy to watch that. Breathtaking at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Neymar, Suarez & Messi ripping things up again. 4-0 win vs Real Sociedad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Tiago out for the rest of the season with a broken leg, been fantastic this year as well Wouldn't be surprised if that's pretty much the end of his career tbh, will be 35 when he returns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 Jaume dropped for Maty Ryan, ridiculous, hes probably been Valencias best player this season ( not that he has much competition), hes been tremendous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 and Nunos gone, thank **** for that, been dire this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Watching Real game from earlier and Ronaldo with two pathetic dives and a couple of the worst misses you'll likely see from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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