Dan_rm Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Someone find my annual Aduriz seleccion posts and repost please, best Spanish striker around again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 and Nunos gone, thank **** for that, been dire this season Need Unai Emery back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Don't worry cms, fizzer will sort you out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Voro will be the one doing the actual managing i would think, he was caretaker manager last time around iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crplz Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/30/barcelona-complain-pundits-real-madrid-isco-neymar-clasico?CMP=twt_gu No wonder Barca fans are such sensitive babies, they learn from the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 You meet many Barça fans in Idaho then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Cristiano ahead of Suárez in the Ballon d'Or Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Whats so funny about that? Over the year the award is for Ronaldo has been better. If it was an award for the past few months then yea maybe i'd agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Err nah mate. This is a 2015 award, not 2014/15. Cristiano has been nowhere near Suárez since the turn of the year - in terms of performances at least, stats might be close but couldn't really care less about that. Suárez key to a treble, Cristiano key to **** all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yeah there is not a chance in hell you can say Ronaldo has been better than Suarez in 2015. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yeah there is not a chance in hell you can say Ronaldo has been better than Suarez in 2015. Ronaldo is probably 4th best in 2015. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Voro will be the one doing the actual managing i would think, he was caretaker manager last time around iirc the official statement confirms that actually: http://en.valenciacf.com/ver/47675/comunicado-oficial--nuno-.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 and Nunos gone, thank **** for that, been dire this seasonBizarre reaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Bizarre reaction. why? the football this season has been utter garbage, hes completely alienated 2 of our better players (Negredo and Rodrigo de Paul) for no reason, we managed a grand total of ZERO shots on target against Sevilla and thats more of a trend than an exception, youd think that was down to being ultra defensive but we've been **** defensively too, hes made bizarre tactical choices (dropping Jaume, the POTS so far for yesterdays game for example), he also played a fairly large role in Amadeo Salvo (who basically saved the club from going bankrupt) and several other well liked and regarded members of the backroom team leaving the club over the summer, which got the fans offside and led to them chanting for him to go at Pre-Season games!. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Sergio Ramos won the award for best Defender in the 14/15 season? wtf? he wasnt even in the top 3 ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Whats so funny about that? Over the year the award is for Ronaldo has been better. If it was an award for the past few months then yea maybe i'd agree. I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact you think Ronaldo has been better over the course of the year or the fact that you would ' maybe ' give it to Suarez over the last couple of months when Suarez has completely blown Ronaldo out of the water. You always give off because we tend to love Messi' in here but it would appear you have the same feelings towards Ronaldo. Ronaldo hasn't been half as good since he was awarded it last time out. More interested in promoting himself off the pitch with movies/chat show appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Hate to be a **** as well but I must say it's fantastic watching just how many other people are starting to notice the real Cesc/Pedro these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Haha ok chap, obviously all the football managers and players disagree but because the mainly Barca bunch in here say otherwise obviously everyone else is wrong. No way in hell Ronaldo isn't in the top3 individually in the world for 2015 imo. Not a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crplz Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Haha ok chap, obviously all the football managers and players disagree but because the mainly Barca bunch in here say otherwise obviously everyone else is wrong. No way in hell Ronaldo isn't in the top3 individually in the world for 2015 imo. Not a chance. It's especially hilarious since EUH said performance is what matters, yet he doesn't care about stats, which is an actual empirical measure of performance. Barca fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 We finally have a new village idiot to liven things up here again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 It's especially hilarious since EUH said performance is what matters, yet he doesn't care about stats, which is an actual empirical measure of performance. Barca fans. I think you can play well in a game and not necessarily have stats that show that and vice versa but its about more than stats anyway. Its an individual award and theres no way Ronaldo wasn't in the top 3 best players in the world last this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb_lesnar Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Suarez has scored 41 goals (kicking only one penalty) and has 25 assists in 2015 without being able to play for Uruguay. Goals and assists that have been decisive in finals and against the likes of Real Madrid, Atlético, Valencia, Manchester City, PSG, Bayern, Juve and Sevilla to win La Liga, UCL, Copa del Rey and the UEFA Supercup. Meanwhile Ronaldo has scored 48 goals (shooting every penalty while missing the only decisive one against Valencia) and has 14 assists. Of his 48 goals: 8 against Espanyol, 5 against Granada, 5 against Getafe, 4 to a 17 year old goalkeeper against Schalke, 7 against Malmoe and Shaktar, 3 against a 10-man Sevilla. Of 10 title deciders against Barca, Atletico and Juventus he only won 1 match... with a goal from Chicharito with 2 minutes left. There is no way in hell Ronaldo has had a better season than Suarez, collectively or individually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFootballManager Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Suarez has scored 41 goals (kicking only one penalty) and has 25 assists in 2015 without being able to play for Uruguay. Goals and assists that have been decisive in finals and against the likes of Real Madrid, Atlético, Valencia, Manchester City, PSG, Bayern, Juve and Sevilla to win La Liga, UCL, Copa del Rey and the UEFA Supercup.Meanwhile Ronaldo has scored 48 goals (shooting every penalty while missing the only decisive one against Valencia) and has 14 assists. Of his 48 goals: 8 against Espanyol, 5 against Granada, 5 against Getafe, 4 to a 17 year old goalkeeper against Schalke, 7 against Malmoe and Shaktar, 3 against a 10-man Sevilla. Of 10 title deciders against Barca, Atletico and Juventus he only won 1 match... with a goal from Chicharito with 2 minutes left. There is no way in hell Ronaldo has had a better season than Suarez, collectively or individually. I would of liked to see Suarez win it this year. Would of been well deserved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crplz Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I think you can play well in a game and not necessarily have stats that show that and vice versa but its about more than stats anyway. Its an individual award and theres no way Ronaldo wasn't in the top 3 best players in the world last this year. I know that when it comes to soccer there's more to performance than just stats, but they're still measuring aspects of performance so saying they don't matter at all is absurd. Especially if it's just because they don't confirm your preconceived bias like in this case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 . Of 10 title deciders against Barca, Atletico and Juventus he only won 1 match... with a goal from Chicharito with 2 minutes left. Shame on Ronaldo being in a team that was inept Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Suarez has scored 41 goals (kicking only one penalty) and has 25 assists in 2015 without being able to play for Uruguay. Goals and assists that have been decisive in finals and against the likes of Real Madrid, Atlético, Valencia, Manchester City, PSG, Bayern, Juve and Sevilla to win La Liga, UCL, Copa del Rey and the UEFA Supercup.Meanwhile Ronaldo has scored 48 goals (shooting every penalty while missing the only decisive one against Valencia) and has 14 assists. Of his 48 goals: 8 against Espanyol, 5 against Granada, 5 against Getafe, 4 to a 17 year old goalkeeper against Schalke, 7 against Malmoe and Shaktar, 3 against a 10-man Sevilla. Of 10 title deciders against Barca, Atletico and Juventus he only won 1 match... with a goal from Chicharito with 2 minutes left. There is no way in hell Ronaldo has had a better season than Suarez, collectively or individually. This is an incredible post, it really is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Of his 48 goals last season, wernt like 30 of them before the turn of the year anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 We finally have a new village idiot to liven things up here again. Is this aimed at me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Whats so funny about that? Over the year the award is for Ronaldo has been better. If it was an award for the past few months then yea maybe i'd agree. I'm really to have a grown man debate. Explain to me why you have the opinion that Ronaldo has done more in this calendar year than Suarez ? Feel free to use any stat you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Stats schmats. Anyone who thinks Cristiano had a better 2015 than Suárez needs their head checked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Look they are both utterly detestable human beings, why anyone would want to argue about either is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Is this aimed at me? nah, that crplz fella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudge7 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Yeah I'm struggling to see how Ronaldo had a better 2015/performed better in 2015 than Suarez. He simply didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 nah, that crplz fella He has been battling for the award for some time now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon67 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Every time I come into this thread Marc Albrighton is always defending Ronaldo, he's like a broken record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Genuinely the first time i've ever seen your username buddy but yea thats no secret is it? The thread is generally Barca/messi fanboys and i generally favour Real, hopefully that doesn't offend you too much you delicate little thing. Oh and emerson i really don't see the point in bringing stats into it because if i say Ronaldo had more assists and goals than Suarez in 2015 then there's going to be a counter that's stats don't mean ****. I'm not looking for your agreement anyway, i swear only in this thread would it seem so ridiculous to have Ronaldo in the top 3 players in the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The problem you seem to have is that you're completely disregarding the performances of other players in your blind adamancy that Ronaldo automatically has to be in the top 3. You also don't seem to be able to separate your idea of who is 'best' overall and who has performaned better over the specified timeframe. If you genuinely think that Ronaldo's performances have been better than any of the Barca front 3 in 2015 then you really arnt in any position to label anyone else a 'fanboy'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Neither of those 2 are even remotely my "problems", just complete fallacies made up by yourself because you can't accept that some people dont automatically have the barca front 3 as their top 3 (imagine that). I'm just finding it amusing that you seem to think him being in the top 3 is so utterly ludicrous. He's there and rightly so, deal with it. Oh and he'll no doubt take 2nd ahead of Neymar, can't wait for the tears when that happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It's funny you mention tears because you're the only one that seems remotely emotional about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 This mini meltdown is entertaining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 you can't accept that some people dont automatically have the barca front 3 as their top 3 (imagine that). Actually, I would hope that nobody 'automatically' has anyone in their top 3 because that's how you find yourself in the predicament that you're in now. I'm just finding it amusing that you seem to think him being in the top 3 is so utterly ridiculous. It's not utterly ridiculous if you could put forward an argument better than 'well he's been voted into the final 3 so there' which is all you seem to be able to muster so far. If you don't have an opinion outside of what other players and managers vote for then there's not much point commenting in the first place. Ronaldo scores an incredible amount of goals, so much so that those goals alone are enough to put him ahead of most players in the world because at the end of the day goals are the most important part of football. However, when he is competing with players that have scored a similar amount of goals while at the same time performing better and contributing a lot more to the overall performances of their team AND their teams success then just the goals alone isn't enough. Ronaldo is becoming increasingly less effective in contributing towards his teams overall performance especially over the last 12 months outside of putting the ball in the back of the net. If he'd scored 30 or 40 more goals than Suarez then you could say that it's enough to overshadow any advantage Suarez may have had in performance but he hasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudge7 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I don't really have an issue with Ronaldo being in there, but it's mainly because of the consistency he's shown over the years that it's a sure thing he'll be in unless he has a nightmare of a year. Barca's front three have been the best players in 2015 though, and that's not some personal attack on Ronaldo They have just been ridiculous, which is why Barca won everything last season and have already opened up a 6-point gap to Real this season. But then I would say that because I'm a massive Barca fanboy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Gary Neville odds slashed to be Fulham manager 16 hours ago, now he is head coach at Valencia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Vynal Seven doing all my work for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 that's just Marc's thing, whenever someone makes even as much as a passing comment, he'll call you a "fanboy" and think you are 100% emotionally invested in what you have just said. Same old same old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Gary Neville odds slashed to be Fulham manager 16 hours ago, now he is head coach at Valencia Well they fecked that one up didn't they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Actually, I would hope that nobody 'automatically' has anyone in their top 3 because that's how you find yourself in the predicament that you're in now. It's not utterly ridiculous if you could put forward an argument better than 'well he's been voted into the final 3 so there' which is all you seem to be able to muster so far. If you don't have an opinion outside of what other players and managers vote for then there's not much point commenting in the first place. Ronaldo scores an incredible amount of goals, so much so that those goals alone are enough to put him ahead of most players in the world because at the end of the day goals are the most important part of football. However, when he is competing with players that have scored a similar amount of goals while at the same time performing better and contributing a lot more to the overall performances of their team AND their teams success then just the goals alone isn't enough. Ronaldo is becoming increasingly less effective in contributing towards his teams overall performance especially over the last 12 months outside of putting the ball in the back of the net. If he'd scored 30 or 40 more goals than Suarez then you could say that it's enough to overshadow any advantage Suarez may have had in performance but he hasn't. I'm not in any kind of predicament but its cute you think i am, the only person talking about automatically having someone in there is you. Using it as a point against me despite it being completely made up. I'm not mentioning stats to make my case as i already mentioned because his 2015 stats make their own case and they have already been dismissed as meaningless in here anyway. Teams success is also not that big of a factor for me considering Real generally dont win anything regardless of their individuals and it being an individual award not a team one. I'm not really to arsed if i'm not meeting the great Vynal Seven's criteria for an acceptable top3 candidate, in the end for me he had a better year and was a better individual than Suarez for 2015. Laughable opinion i know. I only added the "voted in" thing because its obvious that the football world doesn't agree with the experts in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Teams success is also not that big of a factor for me considering Real generally dont win anything regardless of their individuals and it being an individual award not a team one. You may or may not have noticed but I specifically said 'contributed to their teams success' and I worded it that way because while the trophies the team win shouldn't necessarily impact the Balon D'or award, the players individual contribution to that teams success most definitely should. Barca cleaned the board last year because of the contributions of the front 3, they were each individually brilliant which lead to the team being hugely successful. I'm not really to arsed if i'm not meeting the great Vynal Seven's criteria for an acceptable top3 candidate, in the end for me he had a better year and was a better individual than Suarez for 2015. Laughable opinion i know. You haven't really put forward any criteria, in fact the mere discussion of the subject seems to be enough to get you feeling all precious. I suspect it's the fact that you can't logically justify your stance of 'Ronaldo's been better because he just has mmkay' that's got you feeling all frustrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Let me see if I can guess your next response. "I'm not at all frustrated :LAUGHING SMILEY: and I don't need to justify my stance because he's on the shortlist :LAUGHING SMILEY:" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You may or may not have noticed but I specifically said 'contributed to their teams success' and I worded it that way because while the trophies the team win shouldn't necessarily impact the Balon D'or award, the players individual contribution to that teams success most definitely should. Barca cleaned the board last year because of the contributions of the front 3, they were each individually brilliant which lead to the team being hugely successful. You haven't really put forward any criteria, in fact the mere discussion of the subject seems to be enough to get you feeling all precious. I suspect it's the fact that you can't logically justify your stance of 'Ronaldo's been better because he just has mmkay' that's got you feeling all frustrated. Slightly flattering yourself that you think you have me in any way frustrated, whats their to be frustrated about? Ronaldo has been better because he has played better, has better stats and overall was a better individual. Its that simple really, you can keep saying im not putting forward any argument all you like despite it simply not being true. Barca being a much better team and thus a much better front 3 doesn't really have much impact on my individual 3. To make you feel better about your childish little prediction heres your "im so frustrated" smiley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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